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Great tactic not answering question. I would say Miki is top 5-6 in Europe for his position.
It is not like I am not answering the question, but the people you suggested are more appropriate to compare to Mbappe in terms of position, like if you are comparing those guys to play in the role Barella plays at Inter, 100% Barella over them. Like have you even seen them drop back deep to cover for a regista?

Also still hasn't answer my question lol, can you kindly list 5 players you consider as WC or top players that are behind Miki?

P.S. you normally are quite a good poster, but has gotten to you? Like I mean answer my question, man.
 

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Mkhi being world class is quite generous at this stage of his career. But at his age he’s a damn fine player. That being said, Simone needs to better monitor his minutes. He really ran out of steam in the 2nd half of the season
 

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It is not like I am not answering the question, but the people you suggested are more appropriate to compare to Mbappe in terms of position, like if you are comparing those guys to play in the role Barella plays at Inter, 100% Barella over them. Like have you even seen them drop back deep to cover for a regista?

Also still hasn't answer my question lol, can you kindly list 5 players you consider as WC or top players that are behind Miki?

P.S. you normally are quite a good poster, but has gotten to you? Like I mean answer my question, man.
Ball is on you court, bro,
 

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ok. good night, got to get my sleep.
 

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Mkhi is a good player for Serie A, due to the nature of rarely pressing high by most teams and the general tempo of the league. His weaknesses simply doesnt get exploited in Serie A the same way it would in other leagues.

He would be nowhere near a starting spot for a top team in England or Spain, thats for sure. Same is probably true for Hakan to a degree tbh.

Barella is the only midfielder Inter has who im sure would make it as a starter at the top of any of the other big leagues.

Alot of players are simply just suited better for certain leagues, often at different stages of their career due to how their strengths and weaknesses develop as they age.
 

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Everyone has their own idea of what constitutes world-class and while I'd absolutely concur that Miki is not this - nor could be expected to be at his age - I'm also rather surprised that people think of Barella as this level, and by extension our best midfielder. I think Barella is a very good player who brings energy, workrate, ebullient personality and the very valuable trait of constant availability game after game, season after season, but he is also way too untidy with the ball and too erratic a finisher for an attacking midfielder to be thought of as world-class.

World-class players are ones who do very good things very regularly, but also basically greatly eliminate error from their game through consistency of technique and smartness of decision-making. This is really not Barella.
 

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But every time i see him/ I hear him he acts like a shit head....
Also this has nothing to do with him being at Jube it s his personality he d be a shithead if he played for Monza or in serie B i just would not know about him then. Actually if not everybody would have told him how good he is since hes 12 he might have turned out to be a decent human being and not a shithead of a diver so I might need to take that back.

Also bro this is a footbal forum expect people to be called cunts, heck people on here insult our own players way fucken worse.

There's no reason why everyone has to be subjected to a litany of pointless and tedious language just because it's a football forum. Bits of swearing here and there are perfectly normal, but with you it's constant and thus hard to discern what point you are trying to even make.
 

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Everyone has their own idea of what constitutes world-class and while I'd absolutely concur that Miki is not this - nor could be expected to be at his age - I'm also rather surprised that people think of Barella as this level, and by extension our best midfielder. I think Barella is a very good player who brings energy, workrate, ebullient personality and the very valuable trait of constant availability game after game, season after season, but he is also way too untidy with the ball and too erratic a finisher for an attacking midfielder to be thought of as world-class.

World-class players are ones who do very good things very regularly, but also basically greatly eliminate error from their game through consistency of technique and smartness of decision-making. This is really not Barella.
Agree with that. Imo the closest thing we have to a world-class player is calha. Bastoni, barella and lautaro need half a step or even full step before being considered a world-class.
 

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Mkhi is a good player for Serie A, due to the nature of rarely pressing high by most teams and the general tempo of the league. His weaknesses simply doesnt get exploited in Serie A the same way it would in other leagues.

He would be nowhere near a starting spot for a top team in England or Spain, thats for sure. Same is probably true for Hakan to a degree tbh.

Barella is the only midfielder Inter has who im sure would make it as a starter at the top of any of the other big leagues.

Alot of players are simply just suited better for certain leagues, often at different stages of their career due to how their strengths and weaknesses develop as they age.
Yet he played at United and Arsenal. With United he got second place and UEFA league winner. He was good as well for Arsenal.
 

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I love Mkhitaryan. And I wish he plays every game. Seriously.

But I want him at peak condition, especially for derbies, so mostly I would use him as a boost for our midfield in the second half. Start him here and there because he deserves it for his services so far, but I would rather prolong his career and make him mostly a bench option for us.

As much as he can run every game, he also loses steam in front of goal, so I think slightly limited minutes would contribute to his and Inter's game.
 

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I love Mkhitaryan. And I wish he plays every game. Seriously.

But I want him at peak condition, especially for derbies, so mostly I would use him as a boost for our midfield in the second half. Start him here and there because he deserves it for his services so far, but I would rather prolong his career and make him mostly a bench option for us.

As much as he can run every game, he also loses steam in front of goal, so I think slightly limited minutes would contribute to his and Inter's game.
Yes, you mentioned the other day 30/60 for Miki but in reality, it would be 60 /30 for Miki and Zielinski.
 

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Agree with that. Imo the closest thing we have to a world-class player is calha. Bastoni, barella and lautaro need half a step or even full step before being considered a world-class.

Yes, I think Calha is too and would agree about the others. Bastoni I think could get there, not sure I see Lautaro getting any better and his record in the CL is a mile off what you would expect from a world-class player.
 

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Everyone has their own idea of what constitutes world-class and while I'd absolutely concur that Miki is not this - nor could be expected to be at his age - I'm also rather surprised that people think of Barella as this level, and by extension our best midfielder. I think Barella is a very good player who brings energy, workrate, ebullient personality and the very valuable trait of constant availability game after game, season after season, but he is also way too untidy with the ball and too erratic a finisher for an attacking midfielder to be thought of as world-class.

World-class players are ones who do very good things very regularly, but also basically greatly eliminate error from their game through consistency of technique and smartness of decision-making. This is really not Barella.
Erratic finisher, sure, he could definitely improve in this respect, but untidy with the ball? I don’t know how you could say that— Barella is one of the slickest on the ball in the entire sport. He rarely loses the possession, often receiving passes in extremely tight positions. He makes mistakes like anyone else but the motherfucker has some special feet and spatial awareness. I don’t see how you could say otherwise.
 

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There's no reason why everyone has to be subjected to a litany of pointless and tedious language just because it's a football forum. Bits of swearing here and there are perfectly normal, but with you it's constant and thus hard to discern what point you are trying to even make.
Really not hard to get my point of A) Chiesa is overrated mainly cause of the name on his back and who his dad is
B) Nobody would want him at inter if he was not italian and if his dad was not his dad. At least after tha jube stint in which again he was bad.
C) All he does is score one screamer every season and then does fuck all for the rest of the season
D) Dumfries got 3 less scorer points last season despite playing in a more defensive role than Chiesa and playing less minutes than Chiesa and most you guys are not overexcited with dumfries performances.
E) He seems to be a horrible human being (cunt)
F) why on earth should we take this problem off of jubes hands?
G) There is a reason no big team wants him unless they get him at a discount
 

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I would bring in Cheisa cause hes fast and can replace Arnautovic. But thats imo, him being italian is a bonus. but this argument should prob be in the forwards thread
 

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Erratic finisher, sure, he could definitely improve in this respect, but untidy with the ball? I don’t know how you could say that— Barella is one of the slickest on the ball in the entire sport. He rarely loses the possession, often receiving passes in extremely tight positions. He makes mistakes like anyone else but the motherfucker has some special feet and spatial awareness. I don’t see how you could say otherwise.

When he gets into attacking positions his delivery is really erratic, like Di Marco actually. Too many Hollywood balls that go nowhere, volleyed crosses that are not quite crosses and not quite shots, the shooting wildly from unlikely positions when that's really not the best option and then shooting wildly from likely positions when it is the best option - there's too much wastage for someone that people call world-class. As I said, he's a very good player and very valuable to Inter as one of the figureheads of the team, but he's not world-class.
 

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Really not hard to get my point of A) Chiesa is overrated mainly cause of the name on his back and who his dad is
B) Nobody would want him at inter if he was not italian and if his dad was not his dad. At least after tha jube stint in which again he was bad.
C) All he does is score one screamer every season and then does fuck all for the rest of the season
D) Dumfries got 3 less scorer points last season despite playing in a more defensive role than Chiesa and playing less minutes than Chiesa and most you guys are not overexcited with dumfries performances.
E) He seems to be a horrible human being (cunt)
F) why on earth should we take this problem off of jubes hands?
G) There is a reason no big team wants him unless they get him at a discount

I had no real interest in your point and I made it clear elsewhere what I thought about the prospect of signing him. Surely you understood my issue was with your dehumanising language towards a talented footballer that you claim to know something of his personality when you really do not - see Point E.
 

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our best player is barella, him and calha are WC for me

plus we got bastoni and pavard, and lautaro since there is not many players in europe with 20+ goals in top5 leagues

thats it, 5 players, the rest can be happy that they play in CL, let alone playing in CL final

just look at our team without them:

arna-thuram
buchanan-mkhy-asllani-frattesi-dumfries
CA-acerbi-bisseck

what a shitfest
 
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