Aleksandar Kolarov

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What a great renewal :cool:
 

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I am just speechless. I have tried at least four times to provide a response to the news that he is going to be renewed but I am raging.

I honestly can not stand the thought of it and we are indeed going back to our banter era.
 

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Omg!!!

this is worthy than the Hakimi news!!

wtf is wrong with this fking club!
 

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Well this is obviously not true and I guess the management appreciates Kolarov's locker room presence also.
I dont know where this "he's a strong presence in the locker room" has come from but this is a poor excuse. Players are signed to make a positive impact for their own team (not the opposition!) on the pitch, not to be a cheerleader. If Inter wants to sign cheerleaders I suggest they sign prettier ones and on a lower salary.

Not sure even the professional cheerleaders earn as much as this dipshit does.
 

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I dont know where this "he's a strong presence in the locker room" has come from but this is a poor excuse. Players are signed to make a positive impact for their own team (not the opposition!) on the pitch, not to be a cheerleader. If Inter wants to sign cheerleaders I suggest they sign prettier ones and on a lower salary.

Not sure even the professional cheerleaders earn as much as this dipshit does.
I am really sick of that excuse being rolled out. Do you know why all of the players that have a strong presence in our locker room are old cunts? Because their continued presence at the club and inclusion in the squad ensures that our young players have to be loaned out to find experience elsewhere.

Inter rely on old cunts like Kolorov because they are unprepared as a club, to give any of their young players a place in the squad.
 

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I am really sick of that excuse being rolled out. Do you know why all of the players that have a strong presence in our locker room are old cunts? Because their continued presence at the club and inclusion in the squad ensures that our young players have to be loaned out to find experience elsewhere.

Inter rely on old cunts like Kolorov because they are unprepared as a club, to give any of their young players a place in the squad.
And loaning out is not even the worst part. They get sold outright, included in the deals for some old cunts to be signed, and frozen to the bench so the old ones can play and have zero to negative impact for the team.

Ridiculous that even some call the latter "learning" for the young players, as if being frozen to the bench and getting zero to minimum game time help these youngs players to develop and fulfill their potential!
 

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I dont know where this "he's a strong presence in the locker room" has come from but this is a poor excuse. Players are signed to make a positive impact for their own team (not the opposition!) on the pitch, not to be a cheerleader. If Inter wants to sign cheerleaders I suggest they sign prettier ones and on a lower salary.

Not sure even the professional cheerleaders earn as much as this dipshit does.

It's not an excuse but mentioned by at least few players. Players are signed for multiple purposes and being a leader is one of them. I haven't played pro sport (team sport or any other ever) but I understand there are dynamics in the locker room and leader characters are important there, specially at pro sports, specially at the top level.

Learning from veterans is not that veterans play and young players learn from that. The learning (from veterans) happens in the training grounds.

I'm not happy with this renewal but I can understand it. They didn't find a proper replacement from the market, proper in this context, something they wanted to find. It's not always simply technically BETTER PLAYER, there are other aspects when signing players too, and being a leading character is one of them. They've said Kolarov is super pro, always training super professionally and that alone sets an example to younger players. All these players are individual human beins and not everyone is super pro, always top notch in trainings. Kolarov is that, whereas someone like Nainggolan being a good example of polar opposite of super pro.
 

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And loaning out is not even the worst part. They get sold outright, included in the deals for some old cunts to be signed, and frozen to the bench so the old ones can play and have zero to negative impact for the team.

Ridiculous that even some call the latter "learning" for the young players, as if being frozen to the bench and getting zero to minimum game time help these youngs players to develop and fulfill their potential!
Maybe our management are of the view that our young players sitting on the bench at other clubs teaches them to have patience and humility.

And to think, when Conte left and there were rumours that we were broke and could not afford a peppercorn and a glass of water, I stupidly thought that our predicament may force the club to change direction, become creative and actually start trying to integrate and utilise our primavera players.
 
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Our primavera players are typically not good enough for Serie A. Seen multiple times, the latest being Esposito. Zaniolo is the complete opposite but a total anomaly.
 

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Our primavera players are typically not good enough for Serie A. Seen multiple times, the latest being Esposito. Zaniolo is the complete opposite but a total anomaly.
Exactly! We all remember that squad for nearly 10 years ago, that under Stramma won the "youth CL". I hoped that a few of these players will become good players (there was tha analogy with La Masia).
The truth is none from that team became a good player. Even for a second tier team - Bessa, Benassi, Duncan, Pasa, Mbaye, Longo, Livaja? All trash. And all of them are in their prime years. Except Zaniolo and maybe DiMarco, I know nobody from our youth system, who have a real career. Bonucci? That was more than 10 years ago.
Maybe the whole concept of our youth system is completely false. It doens't need to win shit, but to produce good players. And we completely failed. Milan are clearly better - Locatelli, Pessina, Cristante, Acerbi.

Regarding Kolarov, I simply don't understand. That's makes no sense. There are wrong decisions in retrospect, but you can see the logic behind it at that moment. Here is no logic at all. Kolarov is washed-up, he cannot play at any position in 3-5-2 at . Maybe only if we had played 4-4-2, as backup LB. But in 3-5-2. I have the same feeling when we signed Vecino for 24m. What a fuck? Why?
 

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Maybe you guys forget that this is a reserve position, the less we see it means Bastoni is fit and continues to play well.
How can we even fuss over this reserve position, there are starting positions that are more precarious and require more funds to be patched.
Can anyone name a good player who wants to sit on the bench for a total cost of 2.7 million euros.
Please don't mention Di Marco or any other primavera (currently there is no standout defender in the Primavera). Have you watched Di Marco play in the LCB position? Do you know Verona's stats when he played in that position?
And also do you think that Simone would want to play inexperienced kids?
Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see Di Marco plays, but hopefully not in this position.
 
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Maybe you guys forget that this is a reserve position, the less we see it means Bastoni is fit and continues to play well.
How can we even fuss over this reserve position, there are starting positions that are more precarious and require more funds to be patched.
Can anyone name a good player who wants to sit on the bench for a total cost of 2.7 million euros.
Please don't mention Di Marco or any other primavera (currently there is no standout defender in the Primavera). Have you watched Di Marco play in the LCB position? Do you know Verona's stats when he played in that position?
And also do you think that Simone would want to play inexperienced kids?
Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see Di Marco plays, but hopefully not in this position.
Yeah, Kolarov doesn't make many mistakes, true. He can't even walk on the field, but in hospital. In a few rare times he played, he killed us in those few times.

So let's crucified Dimarco because Hellas Verona stats was bad?!?

Let me remind you one solution, Darmian can play there and can be 10x better. Now that we have extended Dumbo, Dumbo can be RB backup (Darmian current role) for the new RB. Yeah, a better solution than spending a dumb 2.7m for a fraud is not spending it.
 

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Yeah, Kolarov doesn't make many mistakes, true. He can't even walk on the field, but in hospital. In a few rare times he played, he killed us in those few times.

So let's crucified Dimarco because Hellas Verona stats was bad?!?

Let me remind you one solution, Darmian can play there and can be 10x better. Now that we have extended Dumbo, Dumbo can be RB backup (Darmian current role) for the new RB. Yeah, a better solution than spending a dumb 2.7m for a fraud is not spending it.

Dumbo cannot be a backup for RWB position (we don't use RB), he's way too slow for that. Kolarov was clearly signed for his leader characteristics and for the fact we didn't find a cheap solution from the market. Stefano Radu extended with Lazio and it seems we try to make money with Dimarco sale.
 

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Dumbo cannot be a backup for RWB position (we don't use RB), he's way too slow for that. Kolarov was clearly signed for his leader characteristics and for the fact we didn't find a cheap solution from the market. Stefano Radu extended with Lazio and it seems we try to make money with Dimarco sale.
Anyone can do better than Kolarov. Any. Even me can't be that disastrous. Hire some girls to cheer players up in the locker room if you call that "leadership", for some hundred bucks.

Really, if you are employed, will you listen to a guy, who is 10x worse than you, to tell you what to do? No, you claim all what he is bla bla blaing is bullshit.

On a serious note, Maksimovic is free and he should be available for only 500k more. If we wanna save that petty money by wasting another 2.7m, it is a terrible decision.
 

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Maybe Maksimovic's agent asked some commission, maybe Maksimovic is a second tier player who's played only in smaller circles compared to Kolarov who has played in all kind of pressure environments (City EPL, Roma, Lazio, Inter).

Have you seen Kolarov play at Inter when the team started to defend as a team with a low block? Me neither. So you cannot say how Kolarov will fare in that setup.
 

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It's not an excuse but mentioned by at least few players. Players are signed for multiple purposes and being a leader is one of them. I haven't played pro sport (team sport or any other ever) but I understand there are dynamics in the locker room and leader characters are important there, specially at pro sports, specially at the top level.

Learning from veterans is not that veterans play and young players learn from that. The learning (from veterans) happens in the training grounds.

I'm not happy with this renewal but I can understand it. They didn't find a proper replacement from the market, proper in this context, something they wanted to find. It's not always simply technically BETTER PLAYER, there are other aspects when signing players too, and being a leading character is one of them. They've said Kolarov is super pro, always training super professionally and that alone sets an example to younger players. All these players are individual human beins and not everyone is super pro, always top notch in trainings. Kolarov is that, whereas someone like Nainggolan being a good example of polar opposite of super pro.
Which players claimed that?

So if a player is a leader type but have zero contribution on the pitch you still sign him and give him millions? This makes zero sense. It's just making excuses for what's going on at Inter.

Yes, learning happens in many ways, but not in the way we see it hapening at Inter. No young player develop into a formidable player by only learning on the training ground while the older players getting most to all the game time from them.

You say Inter renewed him because they couldn't find a replacement. How do you find a replacement for someone who brings nothing on the pitch?! This guy shouldn't have been signed in the first place, but Inter offered him another year to stay! A very bizzare decision from a club with seemingly NO MONEY!
 
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