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What an awful opinion.

To be honest, I think Dylan is spot on. Some posters on here are celebrating a player that is clearly not up to standard and is basically a goal waiting to happen. He has been around for the worst of it and will also be here when we win the Scudetto. In some ways, it is reward for enduring for so long. But at the same time, we have also had to endure his incompetence and mistakes for much too long. I do not care how "influential" he is in the dressing room he really needs to find a new club and we need to be able to find a player that can play in the centre of our defence when De Vrij is is not playing, who will not cause us to shit our pants when he is announced in the starting eleven.

It is time for Inter to find and rely on new players that can offer certainty when our starters need to be rested, get injured or suspended. Ranocchia remaining at Inter beyond this season makes little to no sense when the squad will need to be reinforced if we intend to lift our game and perform better in Europe. Rest assured, we will get an idea of our club's ambitions for next season if Ranocchia is still at the club next season.
 

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To be honest, I think Dylan is spot on. Some posters on here are celebrating a player that is clearly not up to standard and is basically a goal waiting to happen. He has been around for the worst of it and will also be here when we win the Scudetto. In some ways, it is reward for enduring for so long. But at the same time, we have also had to endure his incompetence and mistakes for much too long. I do not care how "influential" he is in the dressing room he really needs to find a new club and we need to be able to find a player that can play in the centre of our defence when De Vrij is is not playing, who will not cause us to shit our pants when he is announced in the starting eleven.

It is time for Inter to find and rely on new players that can offer certainty when our starters need to be rested, get injured or suspended. Ranocchia remaining at Inter beyond this season makes little to no sense when the squad will need to be reinforced if we intend to lift our game and perform better in Europe. Rest assured, we will get an idea of our club's ambitions for next season if Ranocchia is still at the club next season.

Nah, I don't agree. Ranocchia has hardly played as De Vrij plays most of the games. This influence you downplay is important in team sports. Players have talked about how Handanovic and Kolarov are leaders in the locker room and how important that is. You might not care about the influence, but the squad surely cares. Ranocchia is the one encouraging veteran there, does not complain for not playing and is all the time available when needed. Maybe you shit your pants when he plays but maybe Conte does not?

What I agree with is this:

We already discussed how he never became what he could. And how it was probably Inter who fucked him up, and not the other way around. He ended up as mediocre player, but ready to step up when needed.

That being said, he doesn't play much in the past few seasons, but he is THE leader in the dressing room. Seen few reports of how he is the silent leader and everyone likes him, especially when Icardi was the captain. He doesnt earn that much, used to earn more, he is adequate backup for De Vrij and was always decent at it. Imo very underrated and always has been, probably because of what we expected from him back in the day.

IMO he fucking deserves a medal.
 

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tbh ranocchia was shit as a starter, but as a back up player, he's been reliable when called on. I wonder if less game time means he's had more capacity to focus mentally and its less draining for him?

I've been the biggest #ranocchiaout over the years, and i'm still not passionate about him staying, but he's been fine when called on hasnt he?

Such a shame though, his career had so much potential.

In his shoes, I'd Bosman to a lower club and try to get a good 2-3 years of football in before retiring. He's not really been a first team regular since, arguably, Hull/Samp, or even the season before that, when he was 26/27.
 

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Yeah after Scudetto that could be the perfect route for him.

Like Pajo well pointed out, I'm leaning towards Inter being a shit environment for him to grow rather than him being just shit at Inter. Our constant coach changing clusterfuckery doesn't help in that at all (and then the coaches we had weren't perhaps top notch at the first place either). Anyway, that's a thing which has happened to countless other players in the past (simply wrong or unfavourable environment for the player) so it is what it is.
 

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It hasnt helped, but I think its still a reflection of him as well - at the end of the day, you cause your circumstances. You knew if he started a game, we'd concede a goal. He can defend like a god for 89 minutes then concede a goal.

I suspect he just lacked the mentality to make it at a big club tbh.
 

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Damn, Ranocchia manages to evade him being shit because he is Italian? You blame fucking Inter for his uselessness? This is on another level.

#FalcaoLaw gets a new meaning on this thread.
 

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I disagree that Inter somehow did him wrong, quality players thrive even in bad circumstances.
 

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I disagree that Inter somehow did him wrong, quality players thrive even in bad circumstances.

Can't say I agree with this; first I think we were discussing players with potential to develop into high quality players, and the environment they are in for development definitely affects the outcome (nature and nurture, which I think both plays a role); the tricky part is not all people require the same environment, simple example: some thrive better in hardship, some need encouragement. In this case though I lean more towards we ruined him.
 

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I disagree that Inter somehow did him wrong, quality players thrive even in bad circumstances.

Can't say I agree with this; first I think we were discussing players with potential to develop into high quality players, and the environment they are in for development definitely affects the outcome (nature and nurture, which I think both plays a role); the tricky part is not all people require the same environment, simple example: some thrive better in hardship, some need encouragement. In this case though I lean more towards we ruined him.


Some players can thrive in any environment but others as talented as they may can't. For example players like Barella, Bastoni, Chiellini, Lautaro would have probably thrived even in our darkest years, but there are other kind of players like Ranocchia, Eriksen, Sensi, Hakimi, Lukaku that would have struggled a lot and may have failed.

For example I'm pretty sure that if we've signed Bonucci and Ranocchia ended at Rube, their careers would have been reversed because Bonucci don't seem that strong mentally and if anything it's even more error prone than Rano.

Plus Rano wasn't even that error prone but it seemed that everytime he made a mistake it would end in goal, I don't if that was because our team exposed our defenders too much or because he just was super unlucky, or maybe even though he didn't make that many mistakes as people like to say he did, his mistakes were very bad and dangerous.
 

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Excellent points by earlier posters. All the players are individuals and it's simply way to narrow-minded to group players into quality players (players who thrive everywhere) and not quality players.
 

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Can't say I agree with this; first I think we were discussing players with potential to develop into high quality players, and the environment they are in for development definitely affects the outcome (nature and nurture, which I think both plays a role); the tricky part is not all people require the same environment, simple example: some thrive better in hardship, some need encouragement. In this case though I lean more towards we ruined him.

But people say he is a great leader in the dressing room. That doesn't fit into the narrative that he needs much encouragement. Did Handa, Icardi, Kova need any encouragement? Maybe, but they performed well during some turgid times.
 

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But people say he is a great leader in the dressing room. That doesn't fit into the narrative that he needs much encouragement. Did Handa, Icardi, Kova need any encouragement? Maybe, but they performed well during some turgid times.

The encouragement thing was a reference to his earlier days at the club when he was a young player.

Your second argument is precisely the thing you miss. Players are unique, some players respond differently to different environments. Icardi might have become a different player if he arrived to a club which was well structured and which didn't have a lack of goal scoring up front so that he would have had to fight harder to get the numero uno spot.
 

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no one gonna mention his pretty damn decent bicycle kick and prime Lucio-esque run in the second half :lol:
 

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I don’t see why we don’t renew him for another season. Decent backup option.
 

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I don’t see why we don’t renew him for another season. Decent backup option.

What more important, he loves the club so much. And players and coaches love him too.
 

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And salary is trivial compared to others so, given that we have some money issues, it’s a no brainier option for next season.
 

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I'm pretty sure we'll let Rano do whatever he wants. If he decides to stay, he may even be willing to take a small pay cut.
 

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Damn hes been good and improved in these 3 years with spalleti and conte .. he has become a monster
 
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