Davide Frattesi

[delaurentis]

Does anybody know the backstory on why he hardly celebrated those goals against Empoli?

 

[pupivn]

Does anybody know the backstory on why he hardly celebrated those goals against Empoli?

He played for them (on loan)

 

[Glass box]

Does anybody know the backstory on why he hardly celebrated those goals against Empoli?

Spent a season there on loan.

 

[tonyclifton]

Just convert him to a support striker or something. Great eye for goals this lad.

 

[DARi0]

Does anybody know the backstory on why he hardly celebrated those goals against Empoli?

According to himself:

“It’s great, but I am sorry the brace came against a team where I played in a happy period of my life,” Frattesi told DAZN.
“I didn’t celebrate because I had a good time here.” - Frattesi

The 25-year-old is dealing with growing expectations and is criticised by the media every time he doesn’t score.

“Yes, especially recently. It’s not easy,” admitted the midfielder.
“It’s almost as if every game determines whether I am a good player or not. It’s impossible to score in every game; a period of fatigue is understandable, but a player’s worth must be valued in the long run and not in each match.”

Almost as he struggles with expectations at high level?

LOL even when he touches the ball in the midfield, it feels like a forward dropped back to help relieving pressure and immediately runs back to the box.

That`s because he used to be a forward. He grew up training for that role. Old habits die hard?

Just convert him to a support striker or something. Great eye for goals this lad.

Well, Frattesi admits he struggled to accept a position change during his youth academy days:

“I didn’t handle the transformation from forward to midfielder well. In Lazio’s youth team, I had Francheschini as my coach.
“He told me he felt I wasn’t reaching my full potential as a forward and would move me to play as a mezzala. I wanted to quit training.
“But I’ll never stop thanking him because that position change brought me here. When I talk to him now, we sometimes joke about it.” - Frattesi

Did you know?

 

[bubba zanetti]

According to himself:


The 25-year-old is dealing with growing expectations and is criticised by the media every time he doesn’t score.

Almost as he struggles with expectations at high level?


That`s because he used to be a forward. He grew up training for that role. Old habits die hard?


Well, Frattesi admits he struggled to accept a position change during his youth academy days:

Did you know?

This guy should play forward again or behind striker.

 

[Il Drago]

Stick him behind Lautaro and Thuram. As much as I hate the acm or the "10" position there's no point playing him as a midfielder.

He can't play as a #10, at least not in a traditional way, as he's technically limited. Also he shouldn't play as a striker (which is a popular suggestion on this thread). His goals don't come from great forward moves. Instead they come from exploiting free spaces between midfield and attack. That's what he's good at. His best position would probably be an inverted winger in 3-4-2-1 or as an AM in 3-4-1-2 (but more involved in attack than build up play) with license to roam behind forwards. It was a great opportunity to experiment with this while Hakan was out but Inzaghi didn't go for it so I can't see him playing there at Inter.

In our current set up, he will have his uses and he will be a useful player to come from the bench but he will never become crucial for Inter. Scoring goals is an important attribute for a midfielder and one that shouldn't be underestimated. Inter were always lacking in that department. But it also isn't enough to be a starter at Inter.

We're going to be at crossroads with Frattesi next summer. Not an easy decision what to do with him. Personally I would only sell if club received a high offer or if player demanded a move. Else, no.

 

[Adriano@10]

The 25-year-old is dealing with growing expectations and is criticised by the media every time he doesn’t score.

Well thing is the only good thing he does is score.... Like he s useless/invisible if he does not score more often than not...

 

[bubba zanetti]

I remember when he came everyone on this forum was jerking on him. What was the deal with him back then?

 

[DARi0]

You could be jerking right now more than ever because recent analysis shows that Frattesi is currently outperforming his closest equivalents across Serie A’s top clubs in four key attacking statistics.

Well thing is the only good thing he does is score.... Like he s useless/invisible if he does not score more often than not...

I`m kinda sick of this agenda/propaganda/feeling, so here you go:

La Gazzetta dello Sport have recently compared the key attacking statistics of Frattesi, compared to Napoli’s Scott McTominay, Teun Koopmeiners of Juventus, Ruben Loftus-Cheek at Milan and Mario Pasalic at Atalanta.

Frattesi beats top Serie A midfielders in four key stats​

1/ After his brace against Empoli on Wednesday night, the Nerazzurri man has now scored more Serie A goals this season as the aforementioned midfielders combined. Of those players, only McTominay and Pasalic have found the net in Serie A so far this season.

2/ Frattesi is also outperforming McTominay, Koopmeiners and co. in terms of goals per game, with a current average of one every 180 minutes, exactly one every two full games in the league. McTominay has one goal from 556 minutes of league action, while Pasalic has one from 560 minutes.

3/ Frattesi also boasts the best conversion rate of the above midfielders. He is averaging 1.08 shots per 90 minutes this season, scoring 21.4% of those efforts. That trumps McTominay (11.8%), Pasalic (4.8%), Loftus-Cheek and Koopmeiners (both 0%).

4/ Frattesi is also out-dribbling those four Serie A midfielders, completing two out of every three attempted dribbles for an average of 66.67%. McTominay is on 46.7%, Koopmeiners at 40%, Loftus-Cheek at 58.3% and Pasalic at 30%.

All of this has been achieved while playing the fewest minutes of the five aforementioned midfielders, too! Frattesi is currently averaging 51 minutes per 90 in all competitions this season, compared to McTominay’s 71 minutes, Koopmeiners at 70, Loftus-Cheek at 66 and Pasalic at 59.

 

[#NotForMe]

I mean Frattesi is fine as a midfielder, if you need any prove just look at the national team; he is not a forward, nor is he an attacking midfielder (#10); it is just very awkward playing in Inzaghi's system for him, but even so he is still able to deliver certain things in the game. He and Asllani have so much to give, but just not in Inzaghi's system; like if we are in a 4-3-3 without playing a Regista or any possession focusing football; Asllani - Barella - Frattesi can be a great lineup.

People often only talk about Frattesi attacking phase not aligning with the team, actually his defense phase is also not.
Frattesi is actually pretty good at duels and ball winning, but regardless when we are pressing or blocking space, our midfielders' main duties were never to duel or win the ball; they mainly shield the d-line well and pressure with the d-line when it gets through them; one example is from the JuBe game, even Dumfries X Bisseck is a brainless combination, Frattesi also kept them exposed; that you often see other midfielders would run back to cover the d-line like a sweeper, when the CBs are forced to come out and duel.

With all the things, the real things to blame Inzaghi is not developing more than one system to take advantage of the variants in the personnels; the back up or rotation players are not as "weak" as you think of them, but they have very different things compare to the starters; including Arna tbh.

We have one system and the system is extremely good, cause it adapts itself to different opponents, issue is our system might not be the best for all the players we have.

Despite the points above, the rotation players normally still change things up when we are stalled; but they normally work better coming off the bench then rotating games.

 

[Fitzy]

I'm still optimistic that Frattesi can settle into the system. Hopefully we see some improvement toward the end of the year. A bit like how Barella is now adjusting to playing deeper.

I don't remember him being useless in possession whenever I watched him play for Sassuolo, but what I do remember of him was his work in the attacking third of the field, so it could be my memory fading and he was just playing higher in general.

 

[RickyMaravilla'sRightFoot]

I remember when he came everyone on this forum was jerking on him. What was the deal with him back then?

It’s because he stood out in a garbage sassuolo squad with his physicality and goal-scoring ability. He isn’t really much different now, it’s just that Inzaghi asks all of our players to be much more involved in the buildup than other managers— we just signed a 15mil euro keeper no one had even heard of a year ago for his footwork, just so we can use him as an extra outfield player ffs…

It must be a difficult tactical challenge for both Inzaghi and Frattesi. The latter thrives on watching the play develop and getting in decisive positions when he does receive the ball. This is at odds with Inzaghi’s positional fluidity tactics, in which every player is heavily involved in moving the ball and covering for one another.

I hope we can figure out a way to unleash him sooner than later because his ability to predict how the play will develop is almost super-human. He is so lethal that it mitigates a lot of the downsides. It’s just a challenging tactical fit at the moment.

 

[#NotForMe]

I think the easiest way to solve it, which works like a charm last year is one forward becomes way more involved in the build up play, namely Sanchez; that combo scored so many goals; this year, I feel like Taremi can do it, but he doesn't do it to an extreme like Sanchez does, basically playing as a midfielder it was a weird thing to look at, or just play an extra midfielder.