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10 years of FIFWell, i wrote this article long time ago, on Macedonian, and i decided to translate it, for the game tonight! Here it goes.
Why derby d'Italia? How did it all started? Where that hatred between the two clubs and it's fans has started? There are multiple reasons, and I will only tell you the most important ones. How it came to the derby d'Italia!
Inter, as we know, is created by ambitious group of people, people that wanted to play football no matter their nationality. Till then, 9th of March 1908 year, in Italy were playing only Italian players. That moment was an overturn, a revolution in Italian football and maybe the whole world, a club named Internazionale was created! Club consisted of international players, not only Italians, mainly from Switzerland. "Brothers of the world" as it was written in the statute of the institution. Black and blue colors were chosen, the colors of the sky in that beautiful day, in both day and night...
Juventus, on the other hand, was created by group of teenagers, not older than 17. The colors they have chosen were pink and black, and it was consisted from Italian kids.... Total contrary, no?
Now, why derby d'Italia?
Simple. Since always, the derby between these two clubs was greatest in Italy. On paper, the name was given by Giovanni Brera, a sport journalist, in 1967. Since than, it's said that is the 'official' name of the derby. However, few years before that it was also used.
First time, when Juventus was connected to controversies, is 1960 year. Juventus became champions and won their 12th title, while Inter won the third place with 5 points behind. Why controversial?
Few rounds before the end of the season, Inter were first on the table with few points advantage. The derby was supposed to be played, which would have solved the title winner for 90%. However, the Juventus fans starter a 'riot', breaking the stadium and fighting with the police on the streets, so the game was suspended. That aside, Juventus on the pitch has played 12 players, which wasn't allowed normally. That being said, according the law back then, Inter has won the game with 3-0 result, and made huge difference on the table.
But, that didn't happen? How? Well, member of the Agnelli family, was the first man in the football federation. He found "hole in the law" and instead giving 3 points to Inter, he revoked that rule, and re-arranged the game for the end of the season. Naturally, Inter weren't happy, appealed, the fans were protesting on the street, but with no success. They stopped playing after, and as it is said in the newspaper from back then, "Inter wanted to shut the club and leave football, but they changed their mind because football was their lives". They were on -2 from Juventus in the last game, and as protest, they ran on the pitch with players not older than 18, ran with their primavera. Inter lost the game with the result of 9-1, which will be remembered as the biggest loss in the history of the derby d'Italia. But it will be remembered for another thing - the only goal Inter scored was scored by 17 years old debutant, and that player was Sandro Mazzola!
That is the moment, the "derby d'Italia" name was used for the first time. As the headlines back then said, "The derby of the good and evil", derby created of all the controversies Juventus created, long time ago, and that is why Juventus will be remembered as one of the most controversial clubs in the world.
Giovanni Brera used it for the first time as "official" name, and he said it he used it because of several facts:
1. Geographic position of the clubs. Derby of the North, as they used to call it, between Milan and Turin.
2. History and mentality of the two clubs. Inter has always been international club, while Juventus mostly consisted of Italians.
3. The success of both clubs. Till then, Inter was the most successful italian club in Europe, while Juventus in Italy.
4. The fact that both clubs didn't play in Serie B. That was changed in 2006 when JuBe went to B.
5. The controversies, especially after 1960. Inter was one of the clubs that publicly opposed Juventus and the Agnelli family.
All this, brought this derby to the top, to be one of the biggest and most passionate derbies in the world!
Apart from that, let's add what happens outside the pitch. The derby is there as well. The two clubs and their fans are constantly attacking each other. Curva Nord, and Curva Sud, both fan groups in the Milanese clubs, are in kinda, friendly relation. Inter - Milan is city derby, but not even comparable with Inter - Juventus. Their are insulting eachother all right, but it's never like the insulting with the Turin fans. We have had our share of bullshit banners, like "Heysel nostalgia" banner. But their, not only banners, but actions, are disrespectful as none.
There is no year Juventus not to be fined because of their fans making chaos in and out the stadiums. In 2012, they were stoning the bus with Inter players while leaving Turin, luckily, there were no injured players. The part of the stadium they sit is on the top, under them, there are Inter fan groups from all over the world. They were urinating our fans, on our own ground, in our home... And many other literally, filthy actions... But nothing can beat the disrespect toward the dead, the ones that aren't among the livings.
Yes, we will understand, Inter is fierce rival. But they didn't respect Fachetti and the day he died, there's minute of silence before the games. Well, they never remain silent and whistle him, and they don't realize that he is not only Inter legend, but Italian legend as well. Not only this, last year there was minute of silence for a killed italian in Afghanistan, and yet, they were still whistling and had no respect towards their killed countryman. Before every game, there was minute of silence, but before the Juventus - Inter game - there were songs with insulting words. No respect towards the dead or living - that's the Juventus school. And they were fined with 25000 euros, which is funny sum for the action.
Well, that all being said, sending them to Serie B is nothing. They should have fucking rot in Serie C3! Shame that no one had enough evidence to know what they have done before 2006. God knows how many titles they have stolen...
In the end, just a few quotes from the people in the footballing world!
- "I can't understand how can Juventus whine about the referee decision, when it's well know what kind of club they are, in the whole history" - Allegri
- "The derbies with Inter will always be big, but friendly. But those with Juventus will always be filled with controversies. They are the Mafia" - Galliani
- "Bayern Munchen should never deal with Juventus. They don't respect any rules, written or not" - Beckenbauer.
- "Juventus are not gentleman. They are thieves!" - Rummenigge.
Why derby d'Italia? How did it all started? Where that hatred between the two clubs and it's fans has started? There are multiple reasons, and I will only tell you the most important ones. How it came to the derby d'Italia!
Inter, as we know, is created by ambitious group of people, people that wanted to play football no matter their nationality. Till then, 9th of March 1908 year, in Italy were playing only Italian players. That moment was an overturn, a revolution in Italian football and maybe the whole world, a club named Internazionale was created! Club consisted of international players, not only Italians, mainly from Switzerland. "Brothers of the world" as it was written in the statute of the institution. Black and blue colors were chosen, the colors of the sky in that beautiful day, in both day and night...
Juventus, on the other hand, was created by group of teenagers, not older than 17. The colors they have chosen were pink and black, and it was consisted from Italian kids.... Total contrary, no?
Now, why derby d'Italia?
Simple. Since always, the derby between these two clubs was greatest in Italy. On paper, the name was given by Giovanni Brera, a sport journalist, in 1967. Since than, it's said that is the 'official' name of the derby. However, few years before that it was also used.
First time, when Juventus was connected to controversies, is 1960 year. Juventus became champions and won their 12th title, while Inter won the third place with 5 points behind. Why controversial?
Few rounds before the end of the season, Inter were first on the table with few points advantage. The derby was supposed to be played, which would have solved the title winner for 90%. However, the Juventus fans starter a 'riot', breaking the stadium and fighting with the police on the streets, so the game was suspended. That aside, Juventus on the pitch has played 12 players, which wasn't allowed normally. That being said, according the law back then, Inter has won the game with 3-0 result, and made huge difference on the table.
But, that didn't happen? How? Well, member of the Agnelli family, was the first man in the football federation. He found "hole in the law" and instead giving 3 points to Inter, he revoked that rule, and re-arranged the game for the end of the season. Naturally, Inter weren't happy, appealed, the fans were protesting on the street, but with no success. They stopped playing after, and as it is said in the newspaper from back then, "Inter wanted to shut the club and leave football, but they changed their mind because football was their lives". They were on -2 from Juventus in the last game, and as protest, they ran on the pitch with players not older than 18, ran with their primavera. Inter lost the game with the result of 9-1, which will be remembered as the biggest loss in the history of the derby d'Italia. But it will be remembered for another thing - the only goal Inter scored was scored by 17 years old debutant, and that player was Sandro Mazzola!
That is the moment, the "derby d'Italia" name was used for the first time. As the headlines back then said, "The derby of the good and evil", derby created of all the controversies Juventus created, long time ago, and that is why Juventus will be remembered as one of the most controversial clubs in the world.
Giovanni Brera used it for the first time as "official" name, and he said it he used it because of several facts:
1. Geographic position of the clubs. Derby of the North, as they used to call it, between Milan and Turin.
2. History and mentality of the two clubs. Inter has always been international club, while Juventus mostly consisted of Italians.
3. The success of both clubs. Till then, Inter was the most successful italian club in Europe, while Juventus in Italy.
4. The fact that both clubs didn't play in Serie B. That was changed in 2006 when JuBe went to B.
5. The controversies, especially after 1960. Inter was one of the clubs that publicly opposed Juventus and the Agnelli family.
All this, brought this derby to the top, to be one of the biggest and most passionate derbies in the world!
Apart from that, let's add what happens outside the pitch. The derby is there as well. The two clubs and their fans are constantly attacking each other. Curva Nord, and Curva Sud, both fan groups in the Milanese clubs, are in kinda, friendly relation. Inter - Milan is city derby, but not even comparable with Inter - Juventus. Their are insulting eachother all right, but it's never like the insulting with the Turin fans. We have had our share of bullshit banners, like "Heysel nostalgia" banner. But their, not only banners, but actions, are disrespectful as none.
There is no year Juventus not to be fined because of their fans making chaos in and out the stadiums. In 2012, they were stoning the bus with Inter players while leaving Turin, luckily, there were no injured players. The part of the stadium they sit is on the top, under them, there are Inter fan groups from all over the world. They were urinating our fans, on our own ground, in our home... And many other literally, filthy actions... But nothing can beat the disrespect toward the dead, the ones that aren't among the livings.
Yes, we will understand, Inter is fierce rival. But they didn't respect Fachetti and the day he died, there's minute of silence before the games. Well, they never remain silent and whistle him, and they don't realize that he is not only Inter legend, but Italian legend as well. Not only this, last year there was minute of silence for a killed italian in Afghanistan, and yet, they were still whistling and had no respect towards their killed countryman. Before every game, there was minute of silence, but before the Juventus - Inter game - there were songs with insulting words. No respect towards the dead or living - that's the Juventus school. And they were fined with 25000 euros, which is funny sum for the action.
Well, that all being said, sending them to Serie B is nothing. They should have fucking rot in Serie C3! Shame that no one had enough evidence to know what they have done before 2006. God knows how many titles they have stolen...
In the end, just a few quotes from the people in the footballing world!
- "I can't understand how can Juventus whine about the referee decision, when it's well know what kind of club they are, in the whole history" - Allegri
- "The derbies with Inter will always be big, but friendly. But those with Juventus will always be filled with controversies. They are the Mafia" - Galliani
- "Bayern Munchen should never deal with Juventus. They don't respect any rules, written or not" - Beckenbauer.
- "Juventus are not gentleman. They are thieves!" - Rummenigge.
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