Esteban "Il Cuchu" Cambiasso

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This. I never got the fascination with Cambiasso. What has he actually done since his retirement that convince people he wants to be a coach? 4 matches as Pekerman assistant? His playing career is irrelevant. Juventini also thought Pirlo's career as a player and his role on the pitch would be enough to be a successful coach but it doesn't work like that. Stankovic, Samuel and even Chivu have taken coaching a lot more seriously than Cuchu.
He s been an assistant coach to colombia and he took the test to get the coaching license in coverciano... not sure one would do that if he has no intention of coaching...

It s true though that he has done very little since then might be that he s working on his A license and we just dont know it.

Dude was a coach when he was still a player, at least from a tactical point he has all that is needed, the other aspects of coaching i ll admit i m not that sure he has it, but if there ever was a time to try it it s now. We re strapped for money and we arguably have a squad that should manage top 4 if the coach is not a total idiot.
Btw if fucken gattuso is somehow managing Napoli than for sure cambi can do the job...
 

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Yeah, there are some players that you know that just have "it". Cambiasso oozes of that.

- He had a significant locker room presence.
- He was tactically astute, possibly the most tactical player of the 2000s.
- He has experience being coached by the likes of Jose Mourinho, Vicente Del Bosque, Ramon Diaz, Cesar Luis Menotti and even Marcelo Bielsa on the national team briefly. Of course there was also Mancini, Ranieri, Pekerman, Rafa Benitez, Leonardo, Stramaccioni, Maradona, Basile, Marco Silva etc. He is smart enough to know what to filter from each and everyone and who he's more likely to emulate from the truly successful ones.
- He loves Inter.
- He was/is a hard worker.
- He is very well connected in the world of football, which matters a lot nowadays.
- He has a winning mentality and is one of the winningest players of all time and until recently iirc was the #1 in trophies in the world. Think Dani Alves surpassed him.


Andrea Pirlo on the other hand was a very talented player, with excellent vision and a great tactical understanding. But he was mostly talented. Whereas a similar player like Xavi was more of a tactical genius than a creative force, while they both share an amazing ability to see the game play out before anything. Which is also how Guardiola played. Neither relied entirely on talent to succeed, which players like Maradona, Ronaldo, Baggio, Recoba etc cannot say.

Cambiasso has all the tools and characteristics to become one of the greatest managers out there.

The only obstacle is the lack of experience as a manager and sometimes you cannot afford the risk if you're climbing up, this is usually reserved for teams that are already on the top, as you have to minimize the downside risk. But at the same time, you cannot really expect Cambiasso to gain valid experience by moving to a Serie B club or taking over Independiente or something. If you want him to gain experience relevant to Inter he either has to come to Inter (at any role, preferably assistant manager) or move to a mid tier league for a championship competing side. Not many will give him that chance and coaching his former club in Greece that makes Juventus look like boy scouts in term of corruption won't be much of a help in actual coaching experience.

Honestly, I'd give him the chance if it comes to that, but he'll need to be paired with people who have coaching experience in Serie A and championship experience in general. Someone like Walter Zenga as his assistant (who might be humiliated by the request, as he'd expect the opposite role) would actually be really beneficial. Zenga won the Serbian league for example with Red Star, something that people consider a good experience for Stankovic. Just saying...
 

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Cambiasso or Materazzi to force out the bad taste left behind Conte and Vidal :D


It's a fun idea to contemplate but this puts us in a difficult position come next summer. They perform well and you have to think if they should be given another chance for entire year and then we get Stramaccioni scenario possibly, or simple let them go and get someone more experienced in.

It's also a matter of finances, if Conte is sacked but remains on the payroll, Inter might not be able to afford someone more experienced.
 

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What i read from both of you is personal bias towards Cambiasso. There's no factual argument that supports your belief Cambiasso is going to be a great coach. It's just wishful thinking. His playing career gives no guarantess about his coaching career. And if Cambiasso was so interested in coaching he could have been an assistant coach with his great connections in football or he could have taken a coaching job at Inter youth teams. I am sure our management would have no problem to offer it like they did with Stankovic and Chivu. Instead he chooses to remain a commentator. Fine by me but until he shows he's taking coaching seriously i am not going to consider him a serious candidate for the Inter job.
 

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Had no clue he was a commentator.
 

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He is for Sky Italia.
 

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Cool. Extra layer then, he knows the league's current situation also :D :D :D
 

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What i read from both of you is personal bias towards Cambiasso. There's no factual argument that supports your belief Cambiasso is going to be a great coach. It's just wishful thinking. His playing career gives no guarantess about his coaching career. And if Cambiasso was so interested in coaching he could have been an assistant coach with his great connections in football or he could have taken a coaching job at Inter youth teams. I am sure our management would no problem to offer it like they did with Stankovic and Chivu. Instead he chooses to remain a commentator. Fine by me but until he shows he's taking coaching seriously i am not going to consider him a serious candidate for the Inter job.
Was there any prove for Zidan/pep?
Also what have we gained from going with a proven coach like Conte whos a terrible fit for the club? At least cambi would be a great fit and know inter in and out..
Yes it s a gamble but so is every coach on this planet but atleast it would be a cheap one that would probably take the job even with only a contract till the end of the season. Whats the use of signing another pioli/Mancini?
And getting a big name you know will have to commit allegri aint gonna sign for less than 2 years....
The question whether he want s to coach or not is a different one and there i m not sure...

My point is if we ever were in the position to take that risk it s now, squad is god enough to reach our minimum goal CL no matter whos the coach, we aint gonna win shit with conte and shit s not gonna get better from here on out.....
So what would we be risking?
 

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Was there any prove for Zidan/pep?
Also what have we gained from going with a proven coach like Conte whos a terrible fit for the club? At least cambi would be a great fit and know inter in and out..
Yes it s a gamble but so is every coach on this planet but atleast it would be a cheap one that would probably take the job even with only a contract till the end of the season. Whats the use of signing another pioli/Mancini?
And getting a big name you know will have to commit allegri aint gonna sign for less than 2 years....
The question whether he want s to coach or not is a different one and there i m not sure...

My point is if we ever were in the position to take that risk it s now, squad is god enough to reach our minimum goal CL no matter whos the coach, we aint gonna win shit with conte and shit s not gonna get better from here on out.....
So what would we be risking?

They had both shown something with their youth teams. They had the time to experiment with their views on coaching and find out if they can actually work in real time. Don't get me wrong. I love Cuchu. Offer him a job in our youth teams or even the primavera. Let him practice what he has in his mind in the real world. If he shows promising signs and we can't afford a top/semi-top coach i am all for him getting the job. But not right now when he hasn't even coached kids.

This is a great article about how coaching Barcelona B helped Guardiola.

https://www.goal.com/story/pepguardiola/index.html
 

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They had both shown something with their youth teams. They had the time to experiment with their views on coaching and find out if they can actually work in real time. Don't get me wrong. I love Cuchu. Offer him a job in our youth teams or even the primavera. Let him practice what he has in his mind in the real world. If he shows promising signs and we can't afford a top/semi-top coach i am all for him getting the job. But not right now when he hasn't even coached kids.

This is a great article about how coaching Barcelona B helped Guardiola.

https://www.goal.com/story/pepguardiola/index.html
Huge different if you get to play in the 3rd or second division with the B squad or if you coach our primavera IMHO....
Also especially in barcas case the closeness of b and a squad surely helped a lot....

I mean strama was a highly successful youth coach and has not amounted to anything as a head coach.

I know it aint guaranteed success but i d much rather take a gamble on one of our legends than give a totally mediocre coach(pioli mancini) who s supposedly experienced in serie a another shot or get and allegri who will only sign 2 plus year contracts....

All i m saying is what do we have to lose from here on out?
Also if it works we might finally have a coach who has the trust from all parts and on whom we wont turn so easily....

Btw does not have to be Cambi, would take chivu or deki just as gladly
 

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Why do people assume that Allegri is any better than Mancini? People made the same assumption about Conte honestly and I don't see as many accepting their own view on that anymore.
 

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Why do people assume that Allegri is any better than Mancini? People made the same assumption about Conte honestly and I don't see as many accepting their own view on that anymore.

Maybe because Allegri has reached CL final twice while Mancini has never gone any higher than top 16?
 

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Why do people assume that Allegri is any better than Mancini? People made the same assumption about Conte honestly and I don't see as many accepting their own view on that anymore.

Not a fan of allegri but at least he s not a stubborn mf and has shown he can play different styles...
 

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Not a fan of allegri but at least he s not a stubborn mf and has shown he can play different styles...

Mancini is a stubborn fuck, but he's not entirely stubborn style-wise. Allegri is probably as stubborn as Mancini and has a very similar coaching style, which is "fit the formation to the available squad" and "pray that your best players will win the game for you", and they won't get in their way, unlike a shit fuck like Conte who needs to draw up the entire game and expect full execution of it.

They both share the trait of playing favorites. Usually they're decent players, but one was fixated with Felipe Melo and Cesar, the other was fixated with Khedira and Abate, amongst several other fixations.


As for Allegri making the CL, that's also due to less competition honestly. Mancini failed obviously, but when he failed, football was more level all over Europe even if he had one of the strongest teams, but even teams like Porto, Lyon, Marseille, PSV, Villarreal, Arsenal etc could win in specific seasons.
When Allegri took Juventus to those finals, there were like 5-6 strong teams in Europe that were way ahead of the rest, and that's about it. Still a feat, but cannot really be compared.

If Mancini wins the Euro or does extremely well, would it change your mind about him?
 

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Mancini is a stubborn fuck, but he's not entirely stubborn style-wise. Allegri is probably as stubborn as Mancini and has a very similar coaching style, which is "fit the formation to the available squad" and "pray that your best players will win the game for you", and they won't get in their way, unlike a shit fuck like Conte who needs to draw up the entire game and expect full execution of it.

They both share the trait of playing favorites. Usually they're decent players, but one was fixated with Felipe Melo and Cesar, the other was fixated with Khedira and Abate, amongst several other fixations.


As for Allegri making the CL, that's also due to less competition honestly. Mancini failed obviously, but when he failed, football was more level all over Europe even if he had one of the strongest teams, but even teams like Porto, Lyon, Marseille, PSV, Villarreal, Arsenal etc could win in specific seasons.
When Allegri took Juventus to those finals, there were like 5-6 strong teams in Europe that were way ahead of the rest, and that's about it. Still a feat, but cannot really be compared.

If Mancini wins the Euro or does extremely well, would it change your mind about him?

Mancini is not stubborn style-wise but beside his poor record in Europe, he still makes late subs and have a questionable team selection and approach to the matches. I hope he succeed with Italia and win something but he could be quite a frustrating coach with his weird decisions and defensive minded approach. I think the club should have kept him for another season and instead of wasting money for Joao Mario and Gabriel Barbosa give him Yaya and Zabaleta and see how it goes. As much as I am against signing aged players I think those two could still give 2 good seasons to Inter and in all be more successful decisions than those horrendous deals we made for Mario and Gabilol. But that ship has sailed.

About Cambiasso, I really have no idea about him as a coach. As much as I want Conte gone, I think we should not get too emotional and make another bad decision just for the sake of getting rid of Conte. I am no fan of Allegri but he proved he could get results both in the league and Europe and get it with different styles. Personally I am done with Italian and defensive coaches, but realistically Allegri would be the club's first choice to replace Conte and I am fine with that, because I believe he can get this team working and get the results and even win Scudetto. My other realistic choice would be Marcelino, but I see no links between him and the club now.
 

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Marcelino is even more stubborn with his 4-4-2 than Diego Simeone.

The argument I made was about Conte, Mancini and Allegri essentially being on the same level as coaches and having similar limitations. I'd include Spalletti there also. I was saying this before Conte was hired but apparently I was dissed for playing down an allegedly prime coach like Conte. Allegri is better than him, but he's not worth the cost here. Neither is anyone else, we've tied ourselves in a shit position so far, which is why people want a change and at the same time understand that there is possibly no budget for a proper change.
 

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Bald headed even had his number 19 on shirt which was funny since its our 19 scudetti :closeenough:
 

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Probably my 2nd most favorite Inter player ever. Was pleasantly surprised he was in Milano to celebrate. :proud:
 

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He lives in Italy anyways, not sure if it's in Milano even.

But he'd be invited nonetheless being our last and probably only great player sporting the #19 jersey.
 
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