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Fucking hell, group F should produce some fantastic football. That Portugal side is absolutely loaded with talent in midfield.

Sympathies to any Hungarians round these parts

At least they have nothing to lose, they can play without pressure. While others are expected to win before start, so I believe they will take point/s from at least one of those three (most likely Germany imo).
 

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The War of the Weary
By Rory Smith and Tariq Panja

June 9, 2021 Updated 2:52 p.m. ET

LONDON — A couple of weeks ago, as the players who will represent Wales in this summer’s European soccer championships started to report for duty, their coaching staff instituted an unwritten rule: Try, if at all possible, not to mention the F word.

It is not that the word is expressly forbidden; more discouraged. “We don’t want it to be a factor going in,” said Tony Strudwick, the team’s head of performance. “We haven’t used the term. We are not talking about fatigue.”

Discussing it in public might look like making excuses. Talking about it in private might sow doubt in the players. That does not mean, of course, that Strudwick and his colleagues — and every other top team in the world facing a championship-filled summer — are not thinking about it almost constantly.

Fatigue is always a factor in a major tournament. The European Championship and the Copa América and the World Cup arrive at the tail end of long and arduous club campaigns. They are contested by the most successful players, the ones employed by the finest club teams, who are rarely afforded more than a couple of weeks off before reporting for international duty.

But rarely has the shadow of exhaustion hung so low over a tournament as it does this summer, which arrives in a calendar compacted and condensed by the effects of the coronavirus pandemic. In most countries, what is ordinarily a 10-month season was this year crammed into only a little more than eight.

Many of the players involved in the Euros — and the concurrent Copa América, the South American championship — have effectively been playing nonstop since last June. Some are starting to feel it. Marcos Llorente, the hard-running Spain midfielder, confessed earlier this month that, in his final few games of the season with Atlético Madrid, he came off the field unable to run any further. “The brain wanted more, but the body said no,” he said.

Didier Deschamps, coach of France, the world champion, was warning three months ago that his star-studded squad — a favorite to win the European title — was vulnerable to both physical and mental fatigue. His priority, he said upon gathering his team together late last month, was to ensure that there was enough “gas in the engine” to survive a schedule that — if all goes according to his plan — will encompass seven games in 30 days.

Gareth Southgate, the England manager, has admitted that he has to be careful not to “break any of these players.” Roberto Martínez, the coach of Belgium, the world’s top-ranked team, suggested after his side was held to a draw by Greece in a tuneup game that his players were struggling to rediscover the “competitive intensity” they would require to fulfill their ambitions in the tournament.

And while Strudwick and his Wales colleagues might not be talking about it, fatigue and its threat are laced into the very fabric of their planning. They have designed their training programs to take it into account. They have scheduled more down time to prevent it. Any players deemed to be pushing too close to their limits will find their training regimens monitored, their workloads reduced.

They and the other coaches all know that, more than ever, the outcome of Euro 2020 may not depend on the strategic or the stylistic, the tactical or the technical. It may, instead, hinge on the physical, what Strudwick called the battle of “freshness versus fatigue.” This is a tournament for the last team standing.

The explanation for that is obvious. The players called up by the 24 nations who will contest the postponed tournament have not, according to data from Twenty First Group, a sports analytics consultancy, spent more time on the field over the last season on average than they might have done in ordinary circumstances.

But they all have played more games in a shorter space of time — Twenty First Group’s study showed that some will go into the tournament having played more than 200 minutes, or more than three games, more than their equivalents at the 2018 World Cup — and, just as significant, did so with far less time to recover.

Before the last European Championship, in 2016, players had enjoyed an average of 4.5 days of rest between games. This time, that figure is down to 3.9 days, according to the study. For some of the major nations, the figures are more striking still: The players representing Spain, France, England and Italy have had, on average, only 3.5 days between matches this season.

To Strudwick, though, that is only part of the story. As leagues and governing bodies scrambled to make up ground lost to the first wave of the pandemic, there was little or no break between the end of the 2019-20 season and the start of the 2020-21 edition. In some cases, it extended no longer than a couple of weeks.

“There was barely any time off,” Strudwick said. “Normally there is a season, an international break, a split in the middle, and then you go again. This time, it was just a small break, and then into the next season, with games every three or four days and highly dense international periods.”

Quite what effect that will have is not easy to predict. An initial reading would suggest that, more than anyone else, England is vulnerable to the effects of fatigue. The members of its squad have played more minutes than anyone else this season: an average of 3,700, or 40 games — eight entire fixtures more than the average player at the Euros.

That can be attributed to the Premier League’s decision not to follow the rest of Europe in allowing teams to use five substitutes this season. It is no coincidence that five of the six players who have seen the most action this year play in England’s top flight (though the overall leader, the Netherlands midfielder Frenkie De Jong, plays for Barcelona in Spain.)

But its effects may be offset by the fact that only one nation in the field — Turkey — has called up a younger squad than Southgate’s team. England may be just a little more susceptible to fatigue than France, Portugal and Germany, but its team is also significantly younger. Belgium, by contrast, has among the most experienced squads at the tournament, but far fewer recent miles in its legs.

It is possible, though, that fatigue — of a sort that disproportionately affects the traditional favorites — might act as a great equalizer; the fact that so many of the major stars are running on fumes may serve to make the tournament more exciting, rather than less.

That, certainly, is Strudwick’s reasoning. “It won’t go to form,” he said. “There will be upsets. It could be on the cards for a less-heralded team. It is going to be whoever utilizes their squad, maintains freshness, and navigates it best.”

Strudwick is not a dispassionate observer, of course. Wales, for one, has reason to hope that he is right. Its squad has only a couple of standout performers — Gareth Bale and Aaron Ramsey — but neither played as much as they would have liked this season. Neither Bale (for Tottenham) nor Ramsey (for Juventus) passed 1,500 minutes of competitive action for their clubs. Both should, in theory, be rather more fresh than usual.

There is, however, another potential problem in all those heavy workloads: not that the physical condition of the players will serve to make the tournament more open, but that it will make it more dangerous.

“This season some top players played up to 80 percent of their matches without the ideal time to recover,” he added. “We have already seen the impact of certain types of injuries typical for fatigue. Of course, we hope the players stay healthy, and can play at their very best. But after a year like we have had, the reality is that the risk for injuries is high.”

That is what Strudwick and all of his peers and contemporaries and rivals fear the most. It is what they have spent weeks and months trying to prevent, or at least to mitigate. They may not be talking about fatigue, and all the threats it poses, but they will certainly be thinking about it, every day for the next month, until only one of them is left standing, and at last they can rest.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/09/...ck&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage&section=Sports
 

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Italy’s Latest Tactical Innovation: Fun

A nation steeped in soccer stopped producing trophies because it stopped producing players. Can a commitment to youth, and fun, bring back the glory days?

By Rory Smith

June 10, 2021, 11:13 a.m. ET
At one point, for reasons that presumably made sense in context, the coach and one of his assistants spent a few minutes onstage playing padel — a Basque version of tennis — with a set of frying pans. At another, three players were lined up in descending order of height and asked to perform as backing vocalists for someone who, apparently, self-identifies as a rapper.

Most of the countries competing in this summer’s European Championship announced their squads in the traditional manner: a list of names and some anodyne quotes in a simple news release or, for those investing a little more effort, a slick graphic released on social media.

Italy, though — well, Italy went in a very different direction. It unveiled its players for the tournament during a variety show, broadcast live and late into the night, that did not actually conclude with confirmation of the squad. The federation never quite managed to fit it in, what with all the music and games and cooking equipment. Italy’s list was released on social media a couple of hours later.

The proceedings, though, created just the sort of impression Roberto Mancini — the pan-wielding coach — wanted. Italy’s record at major tournaments over the last decade or so has been checkered at best. It reached one final, at Euro 2012, and performed creditably in 2016. In 2010 and 2014, though, the Azzurri slunk home from the World Cup at the end of the group stage. In 2018, for the first time in more than half a century, they did not even qualify.

So as they prepare for the opening match of the postponed Euro 2020, against Turkey on Friday in Rome, Mancini and his team should be under intense pressure. Major tournaments, ordinarily, are a time of high expectation and hair-trigger tension.

This Italy, though? Well, it has gone another way. The variety show was only the first piece of media content the national team will put out over the next few days. There is a fly-on-the-wall documentary, too, and an official song that is one long inside joke. Mancini appears, singing along, in the video for it.

The angst and the anguish of recent years have been thoroughly banished. Instead, as Mancini said while he stood onstage that night, broadcasting live to the nation, his frying pan laid to one side, he is going to try something novel.

“We will get the fans on board,” he said, “by having fun.”

Long Shadows
Marcello Lippi did not hear the bell tolling, not at the time. As he pored over his choice of players to take to the 2010 World Cup, Lippi found himself picking the familiar names, the familiar faces over and over again. The core of the squad was much the same as the one that had won the tournament for him in Germany four years before. The coach chose the players, he would say later, out of “gratitude.”

“I realized too late that some had given all they had,” he said.

That moment of realization can be timed and placed with unerring accuracy: Ellis Park, Johannesburg, June 24, 2010, when Slovakia — appearing in a World Cup for the first time — beat Italy to send the reigning champion home, violet with indignity.

That night, Lippi sat on a raised platform in a media center and described how his team had played with “terror in its heart and its head and its legs.” The responsibility for the national humiliation — there had also been a draw, a few days earlier, against New Zealand — was his, and his alone, he said. He would fall on his sword soon after.

Over the last decade, Italians have grown accustomed to that sort of denouement in a major tournament. In 2014, when Italy was again eliminated at the World Cup’s first hurdle, the coach and the two top executives at the national soccer federation all resigned live on television. Failure to qualify for 2018 cost not only the head of Gian Piero Ventura, the coach, but that of his boss, too. Italy has spent a decade leaping out of frying pans and into fires.

At the same time, the explanation offered by Lippi for that failure in 2010 has been internalized on a national level, automatically applied to every disappointment that has followed. “I did not think we would win the World Cup,” he said that night in Johannesburg, not far off heresy for an Italian manager. “But I thought we could perform better than that. This is clearly not a fantastic moment for Italian football.”

Heads still rolled, but Italy accepted that its tournament performances were symptoms, rather than causes, of a broader malaise. Lippi suffered because the team that had won the World Cup had grown old. His successors failed because no new generation had emerged to replace them. As the shadow of that glorious team of 2006 grew longer, the darker and deeper the gloom became.

There are any number of explanations for why that might be. Massimiliano Allegri, Juventus’s coach of the past and present, argues that youth soccer in Italy is, effectively, too tactical: Coaches are so worried about their jobs that they mask the individual shortcomings of their players with strategy.

“Instead of letting kids learn how to defend one-on-one, they give them cover,” Allegri said. “They double up. But that means the kid doesn’t learn. So when they have to play one-on-one, they don’t know how.” That, in his mind, is why “Italy does not produce champions anymore.”

Paolo Nicolato, the country’s under-21 coach, contends that Italy’s soccer culture is too intolerant of errors, which he labels “a necessary step of growth.” It suffers from a “bad relationship with the future,” he says. “We are very focused on the present.”

That assertion is borne out by facts. Last season, of the 50 youngest teams in Europe’s top 20 leagues, only one was Italian: A.C. Milan. Only three Italian sides appeared in the top 100. More significantly, only five percent of all the minutes Serie A teams played last season were given over to homegrown, academy-reared players. Italian soccer remains a culture that is deeply distrustful of youth.

“It is a strange championship,” said Maurizio Costanzi, the head of youth development for one of the few teams to buck the trend: Atalanta. He has spent four decades working with young players in Italy, and he has noticed a definite, incontrovertible change in both the quality and the quantity of emerging prospects.

He wonders if that might be related, in part, to the demise of street soccer, or to the rise in athleticism in the sport squeezing out the sorts of players — playmakers and schemers — who long characterized the Italian game. But he is sure that those who do make it are not given a chance either quickly or reliably enough to succeed.

“You get cycles in every country, and you can’t plan out when players come through precisely,” he said. “But in Italy one of our problems is that we only think about the result. It puts a limit on us. It means that our players seem to mature more slowly.”

As a player, four decades ago, Mancini was an exception to that rule, making his debut at 16, rising to become an international long before he hit 20. Perhaps it was natural, then, that as a coach he should set about trying to change the culture.

The problem, to him, was a lack of opportunity, not a lack of ability. “Maybe you are a little afraid to let the young players play,” he said not long after taking the job as national team coach. “It is just a matter of time. You just have to believe it.”

Notti Magiche
The high-speed Frecciarossa train that collected Italy’s squad in Florence on Thursday had been specially painted, its bullet-nosed front decked out in a streak of bright blue. The journey to Rome would take only a couple of hours. When the squad disembarked, though, the plan was for the players to find themselves back in 1990.

This is the first time since that year’s World Cup that Italy has hosted a major international tournament. Rome may be one of Euro 2020’s side stages — London has more games than anywhere else, including both semifinals and the final — but that has been more than enough to stoke the memory.

The authorities have encouraged it: The opening ceremony on Friday will feature the tenor Andrea Bocelli, playing the role of Luciano Pavarotti and singing “Nessun Dorma,” the soundtrack of that Italian World Cup.

The media has perpetuated it: Italy will play the opening game, La Gazzetta dello Sport noted this week, in the stadium that was home to so many of what, in 1990, became known as the notti magiche: magical nights. Even Mancini has embraced it, his decision to call up the unheralded Sassuolo striker Giacomo Raspadori seemingly an attempt to unearth his own Totò Schillaci, the captivating icon of that long, sweltering Italian summer three decades ago.

For the first time in a long time, the country seems to have a team capable of wearing its history lightly. Mancini’s Italy has not lost in 27 games, since late 2018. At one point, it had won 11 consecutive games, a record. It may not have faced any of its putative rivals for the crown this summer — the Netherlands aside — but the sense of momentum is undeniable.

Mancini has created an Italy refreshed and rejuvenated. In the three years of his tenure, he has given international debuts to 35 players. By Italian standards, there is youth shot through his team. Goalkeeper Gianluigi Donnarumma and defender Alessandro Bastoni are both 22. Midfielders Manuel Locatelli and Federico Chiesa are a year older. Nicolò Barella and Lorenzo Pellegrini are 24.

That the squad has the air of a team for the future, not the present, works in its favor. Italy feels young and daring, new and different. It feels like the sort of team a country might find fun. It is, though, a testament to serious, painstaking work.

Ever since that defeat in 2010, Italian soccer has been trying to restore its course, to piece together some idea of how it might produce players again. To do so, it commissioned a series of reviews and assessments carried out by some of the sport’s greatest names: Gianni Rivera, Demetrio Albertini, Arrigo Sacchi, Alessandro Costacurta.

The key figure in Italy’s reconstruction, though, is an unknown: Maurizio Viscidi, the coordinator of the country’s youth teams. It was Viscidi — initially hired by Sacchi a decade ago — who oversaw a revolution not only in the structure of Italian youth soccer, introducing an under-15 team and reorganizing youth competitions, but also in its mind-set.

He has tried to wean the programs he oversees off an addiction to the result, to the here and now, and to make it think more about the players it is developing. He has instituted a policy linking Italy’s youth teams more intrinsically to the senior side, making the step up easier.

And in Mancini, he has found a coach after his own heart. A few months after taking the job, Mancini organized a joint training camp involving Italy’s senior team, its under-21s, and its under-20s. The message was clear: Youth would no longer be overlooked. It would, instead, be front and center. The squad he has named for the tournament is made up of his children of the revolution.

How that revolution ends is not yet clear. This summer may be the redemptive climax. It may have to wait until Qatar, next year. It may never come at all.

To Mancini, though, that is not the point. What matters, now, is that his team and his country have a little fun in finding out.

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really love the feeling with the fans back in the stadium.
 

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In the US:
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Wales vs Switzerland @9:00am EDST on ESPN
Denmark vs Finland @ 12pm EDST on ESPN
Belgium vs Russia @ 3pm EDST on ABC

SUNDAY
England vs Croatia @ 9 am EDST on ESPN
Austria vs N. Macedonia @12pm EDST on ESPN
Netherlands vs Ukraine @3pm EDST on ESPN

More important to some viewers:

Brazil vs Venezuela 5pm EDST on TUDN
Columbia vs Ecuador 8pm EDST on TUDN
 

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First half of Wales vs Switzerland is a prime example why the Euro's should be 16 teams not 24.
 

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First half of Wales vs Switzerland is a prime example why the Euro's should be 16 teams not 24.

This. The old format was far superior.
 

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How do the knockout matchups work? I see Belgium will face one of the 3rd placed teams but is there a rule as to which group winner faces which 3rd place team? I assume it’s based on 3rd team rankings.
 

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Scotland vs Czech Republic @9:00am EDST on ESPN
Poland vs Slovakia @12:00pm EDST on ESPN
Spain vs Sweden @3:00pm EDST on ESPN

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Hungary vs Portugal @12:00pm EDST on ESPN
France vs Germany @3:00pm EDST on ESPN.
 

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Inter players have the most number of goals at the tournament with 3.

Juventus have the least with -2 lol

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Finland vs Russia @9:00am EDST on ESPN
Turkey vs Wales @12:00pm EDST on ESPN
Itay vs Switzerland @3:00pm EDST on ESPN

THURSDAY

Ukraine vs Northern Macedonia @9:00am EDST on ESPN
Denmark vs Belgium @12:00pm EDST on ESPN
Netherlands vs Austria @3:00pm EDST on ESPN
 
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