European Super League Discussion

[Glass box]

Let's see how severe FIGC will be with us.

 

[Fitzy]

I wonder how much of each 15 million Euro fine will end up making its way to the "grass roots". 1%? 2%?

 

[Il Drago]

Common statement from Real, Barcelona and Juventus about Super League:


Statement regarding the Super League

In response to the statement released by UEFA on the 7th May in respect of the Super League and the position taken by 9 of its founding clubs, Fútbol Club Barcelona, Juventus and Real Madrid Club de Fútbol make the following statement:

(i) The founding clubs have suffered, and continue to suffer, unacceptable third-party pressures, threats, and offenses to abandon the project and therefore desist from their right and duty to provide solutions to the football ecosystem via concrete proposals and constructive dialogue. This is intolerable under the rule of law and Tribunals have already ruled in favour of the Super League proposal, ordering FIFA and UEFA to, either directly or through their affiliated bodies, refrain from taking any action which may hinder this initiative in any way while court proceedings are pending.

(ii) The Super League project was designed jointly by its 12 founding clubs:

(a) with the aim of providing solutions to the current unsustainable situation in the football industry. The 12 founding clubs shared the same concerns -- as do other stakeholders in European football -, particularly under the current socio-economic context, that structural reforms are vital to ensure our sport remains appealing and survives in the long-term. To that effect, on April 18th, they announced their intention to create the Super League and establish a channel of communication with UEFA and FIFA, in the constructive spirit of collaboration between the parties, as it was so notified to each of them on such date;
(b) with the utmost respect for the current football structures and ecosystem. The founding clubs expressly agreed that the Super League would only take place if such a competition was recognised by UEFA and/or FIFA or if, in accordance with applicable laws and regulations, it was deemed to be a competition duly compatible for all purposes with the continuity of the founding clubs in their respective domestic competitions. However, despite being aware of the above terms, UEFA and FIFA have so far refused to establish any adequate channel of communication;
(c) and to bring financial stability to the entire European football family, currently under the effects of a deep crisis that threatens the survival of many clubs. Testament to that was the announced commitment to establish annual solidarity payments of guaranteed amounts that multiply those distributed by UEFA in real terms, and the obligation to reinforce financial sustainability rules, through the creation of a clear, transparent and effective control system verified by experts.

(iii) The 12 founding clubs also acknowledged that the Super League was a unique opportunity to offer fans around the world the best possible show and to reinforce global interest in the sport, which is not a “given” and is challenged by new generational trends. Moreover, one of its main objectives was to promote women's football on a global level, a tremendous, but currently undervalued, opportunity for the sector.

(iv) We are fully aware of the diversity of reactions to the Super League initiative and, consequently, of the need to reflect on the reasons for some of them. We are ready to reconsider the proposed approach, as necessary. However, we would be highly irresponsible if, being aware of the needs and systemic crisis in the football sector, which led us to announce the Super League, we abandoned such mission to provide effective and sustainable answers to the existential questions that threaten the football industry.

(v) We regret to see that our friends and founding partners of the Super League project have now found themselves in such an inconsistent and contradictory position when signing a number of commitments to UEFA yesterday. However, given that the material issues that led the 12 founding clubs to announce the Super League weeks ago have not gone away, we reiterate that, to honour our history, to comply with our obligations towards our stakeholders and fans, for the good of football and for the financial sustainability of the sector, we have the duty to act in a responsible manner and persevere in the pursuit of adequate solutions, despite the unacceptable and ongoing pressures and threats received from UEFA.

(vi) Furthermore, we reiterate to FIFA, UEFA and all football stakeholders, as we have done on several occasions since the announcement of the Super League, our commitment and determination to discuss, with respect and without intolerable pressure and in accordance with the rule of law, the most appropriate solutions for the sustainability of the whole football family.

 

[H_D_Swagger]

Common statement from Real, Barcelona and Juventus about Super League:


Statement regarding the Super League

In response to the statement released by UEFA on the 7th May in respect of the Super League and the position taken by 9 of its founding clubs, Fútbol Club Barcelona, Juventus and Real Madrid Club de Fútbol make the following statement:

(i) The founding clubs have suffered, and continue to suffer, unacceptable third-party pressures, threats, and offenses to abandon the project and therefore desist from their right and duty to provide solutions to the football ecosystem via concrete proposals and constructive dialogue. This is intolerable under the rule of law and Tribunals have already ruled in favour of the Super League proposal, ordering FIFA and UEFA to, either directly or through their affiliated bodies, refrain from taking any action which may hinder this initiative in any way while court proceedings are pending.

(ii) The Super League project was designed jointly by its 12 founding clubs:

(a) with the aim of providing solutions to the current unsustainable situation in the football industry. The 12 founding clubs shared the same concerns -- as do other stakeholders in European football -, particularly under the current socio-economic context, that structural reforms are vital to ensure our sport remains appealing and survives in the long-term. To that effect, on April 18th, they announced their intention to create the Super League and establish a channel of communication with UEFA and FIFA, in the constructive spirit of collaboration between the parties, as it was so notified to each of them on such date;
(b) with the utmost respect for the current football structures and ecosystem. The founding clubs expressly agreed that the Super League would only take place if such a competition was recognised by UEFA and/or FIFA or if, in accordance with applicable laws and regulations, it was deemed to be a competition duly compatible for all purposes with the continuity of the founding clubs in their respective domestic competitions. However, despite being aware of the above terms, UEFA and FIFA have so far refused to establish any adequate channel of communication;
(c) and to bring financial stability to the entire European football family, currently under the effects of a deep crisis that threatens the survival of many clubs. Testament to that was the announced commitment to establish annual solidarity payments of guaranteed amounts that multiply those distributed by UEFA in real terms, and the obligation to reinforce financial sustainability rules, through the creation of a clear, transparent and effective control system verified by experts.

(iii) The 12 founding clubs also acknowledged that the Super League was a unique opportunity to offer fans around the world the best possible show and to reinforce global interest in the sport, which is not a “given” and is challenged by new generational trends. Moreover, one of its main objectives was to promote women's football on a global level, a tremendous, but currently undervalued, opportunity for the sector.

(iv) We are fully aware of the diversity of reactions to the Super League initiative and, consequently, of the need to reflect on the reasons for some of them. We are ready to reconsider the proposed approach, as necessary. However, we would be highly irresponsible if, being aware of the needs and systemic crisis in the football sector, which led us to announce the Super League, we abandoned such mission to provide effective and sustainable answers to the existential questions that threaten the football industry.

(v) We regret to see that our friends and founding partners of the Super League project have now found themselves in such an inconsistent and contradictory position when signing a number of commitments to UEFA yesterday. However, given that the material issues that led the 12 founding clubs to announce the Super League weeks ago have not gone away, we reiterate that, to honour our history, to comply with our obligations towards our stakeholders and fans, for the good of football and for the financial sustainability of the sector, we have the duty to act in a responsible manner and persevere in the pursuit of adequate solutions, despite the unacceptable and ongoing pressures and threats received from UEFA.

(vi) Furthermore, we reiterate to FIFA, UEFA and all football stakeholders, as we have done on several occasions since the announcement of the Super League, our commitment and determination to discuss, with respect and without intolerable pressure and in accordance with the rule of law, the most appropriate solutions for the sustainability of the whole football family.

Let me translate for those of you without the time to read all of that: "I am the president of Iraq and I am willing to negotiate".

 

[Jnr]

Juve getting a ban, Milan,Napoli into the CL? It sure looks like so

 

[vex]

Mad bastards, they're sticking to it, which is somewhat admirable but a lot of respectable journalists already claiming they will get a two year cl ban, and it will be announced after the cl final. No matter how rich you are that's a huge blow, especially if you have huge debts, like those three.

 

[Nerazzurri_Ninja]

Clubs missing that are needed for SUPER LEAGUE;
Bayern Munich, BVB, Bayer Leverkusen, PSG, Monaco, Lyon, Porto, Benfica, Ajax, Zenit, Club Brugge KV.

 

[Fitzy]

I'm still pissed off that Inter were among the chumps who agreed to half of the revenue the other Super League clubs would get.

The idea that the clubs were creating the new league 'for the betterment of football', yet were not splitting the money evenly between the clubs involved, is laughable.

 

[Shark]

I'm still pissed off that Inter were among the chumps who agreed to half of the revenue the other Super League clubs would get.

The idea that the clubs were creating the new league 'for the betterment of football', yet were not splitting the money evenly between the clubs involved, is laughable.

Yeah that's arguably the most embarrassing part the chumps also conveniently include all of Rube's, Real's and Barca's domestic competitors

 

[IM21]

Sky saying juve might be banned from serie a.

 

[Il Drago]

Sky saying juve might be banned from serie a.

Well they don't want Milan to be the only Italian club out of the top 3 to play two seasons in Serie B. :troll:

 

[TheNetworkZ]

Sky saying juve might be banned from serie a.

 

[brehme1989]

Sky saying juve might be banned from serie a.

Is that a points deduction to send them to Serie B or an expulsion? Because the latter would mean that they will probably end up in Lega Pro, either directly or by replacing their "B" team there with dodgy paperwork.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Who would ban them and why?

 

[thatdude]

I'm still pissed off that Inter were among the chumps who agreed to half of the revenue the other Super League clubs would get.

The idea that the clubs were creating the new league 'for the betterment of football', yet were not splitting the money evenly between the clubs involved, is laughable.

Wtf. How is this the first I’m hearing of this. So we were going to go into the super league with a fucking 50% handicap compared to Juventus!? What the actual fuck were we thinking.

 

[Bergpavian]

What the actual fuck were we thinking.

Nothing.

It's not EPL's fault other leagues are trailing far behind as far money and marketability goes. Don't be jealous, it should aspire other leagues to do more.

To be honest: I'm still shocked about our Crotone game. That pitch, that stadium ... You won't find something like that in the 2. Bundesliga. Football is for the fans and there's too much money involved, yes. But there need to be certain standards to play in the top tier. Everybody I know who saw that game/the highlights made fun of Serie A.

And this sort of missing infrastructure or incompetence you find everywhere in Serie A: the terrible production of television broadcast, transfer deals nobody understands, too much power in the hand of right idiots in the curva, the impossibility to build a new stadium ...

 

[Alex de Large]

Football would be better if Madrid, Barcelona and Juve disappear forever.

I guess i would start hating on PSG and so on.

 

[Candreva Crosses]

Football would be better if Madrid, Barcelona and Juve disappear forever.

I guess i would start hating on PSG and so on.

One step at a time. First remove the league BPL and then we can continue with Madrid, Barcelona and Juve

 

[Nerazzurri_Ninja]

Clubs missing that are needed for SUPER LEAGUE;
Bayern Munich, BVB, Bayer Leverkusen, PSG, Monaco, Lyon, Porto, Benfica, Ajax, Zenit, Club Brugge KV.

Super League at least needs teams from the top 5 leagues.

 

[Ethor]

New York Times article today states that some high ranking officials in Fifa knew about the proposed super league prior to its announcement.