Frank de Boer

Where will De Boer lead us this season?


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tanorini

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And thats exactly why I dont get excited with whoever we get as a coach, because our problems run so much deeper than the coach ( even when I leave out the mess of the management and the owners)

The players currently simply can do nothing and we are still rewarding them. Their body language almost makes you think someone is forcing them to play against their will. This is our own fault, these past years we've been getting players that arent mentally professionals, and even rewarding them with newer contracts and accepting their shitty behaviour.

"You teach people how to treat you" , I guess Inter has been teaching the players that they can do whatever they want...

I literally said the same things in another thread.
 

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Yes, but to be honest I dont think it is his tactics that failed. Its that the group did not execute what was asked of them. If you just look at the juve game for example, and another one where we looked completely lost, the contrast is too big.

He even mentioned it often in his press conferences that it wasnt his Inter, and that the gaps were too big etc. I personally think he lost the group at some point and they really just didnt care anymore, and starting doing a "Gasperini" on him. In the game against Sampdoria you even saw some guys putting pressure on the opponent while looking behind to see whether a teammate was joined the pressure. They dont even seem to trust eachother in the executing. It wasnt once, but actually a couple of times they looked back to double check whether the others would join.

That doesnt look like a healthy team thats on 1 page..

I'm quoting your translations from Barbosa's thread:

"Nonetheless you should look at yourself. Frank did not succeed to get things on track. You can point to some factors for that. The group was not fit yet and too big. 7 or 8 people should have left, but instead 2 joined. One of those, Barbosa. Frank did not ask for him/have any saying in it. So, you hope you can focus on the football as a coach, but a lot of indirect side factors came into play.
We thought that Inter - a beautiful club- suited him well. But that was a misjudgement"

(asking whether Frank knew what he got himself into by taking the job)
"Of course he knew, but you hope that you as a coach only need to focus on the football aspect. You hope that you can create a group in a way that you can get it running. At Ajax for example, he could focus on that goal.(the footballing aspect, and not the side things)

I thinks the real problems lies in the squad's size, it's been mention in Calciomercato a few days ago:

DANGEROUS TURBULENCE:
Sporting Director Piero Ausilio has also been rumoured to be trying to help out the Dutch tactician by trying to trim down the size of the squad. De Boer has stated that “I have too many players and I can only pick 11. This is bound to upset some of the squad”. The coach is concerned that certain players’ omission from the squad is having a negative effect in the dressing-room and Ausilio is working with the new Chinese owners to address the problem.

Source Calciomercato

I remember a few times de Boer mentioned 'I can only field 11 players' something like that.
 

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I'm quoting your translations from Barbosa's thread:



I thinks the real problems lies in the squad's size, it's been mention in Calciomercato a few days ago:



I remember a few times de Boer mentioned 'I can only field 11 players' something like that.

haha the problem is we have so many fullbacks for example all of them are garbage.
 

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Yeah and it makes complete sense. Although I still believe that the players should behave as professionals. And those 11 that are fielded should at least do what they are asked to. Its their job.

But indeed, it made his job even more difficult...again due to bad management from above.
 

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Bye bye I can see us getting better results than we ever did with you...
 

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In my view, Frank de Boer was never given a proper chance. His failure is the club’s failure. He has simply taken the fall for it. For me, the saddest thing is that Inter lost a coach that could have made a real difference to the club going forward both in terms of playing philosophy and the promotion and development of young players. Inter lost a coach that was different from any of the shit we have had in recent history and could have made a long term difference if given a proper chance. To those that believe he was given a proper opportunity to manage our team, please consider the factors below.

Nowhere in the world of football will you see a club that has been mismanaged the way Inter have been managed this season. Inter has become a coach’s graveyard. The performance of the players on field are as clueless and directionless as the club’s management. The club’s Captain cares more about Instagram and the money in his pocket than he does about the club, and the club’s management are an embarrassment. Prospective new coaches will think long and hard before signing for such a basket-case club.

No one is kidding themselves. Inter is not the club it once was. It has fallen from being at the top tier of European football to being a club that struggles to qualify and perform in the UEFA Cup. There used to be great pride and prestige associated with Inter but that has been replaced by dysfunction and performances on the pitch that fluctuate between embarrassing and disgraceful.

The way I see it, our whole season was compromised and ruined by:

(1) The delay in getting rid of Mancini;
(2) The fact that the squad were not clicking with him and obviously sensed that something was wrong in preseason;
(3) A pointless shit tour of the US that compromised our preparation and fitness levels for the start of the season;
(4) Mancini leaving two weeks before the start of the season and the subsequent appointment of Frank de Boer;
(5) Frank de Boer having no time to make a call on the players he wanted in the squad and those he wanted to move on;
(6) Frank de Boer trying to adjust on the run to a dysfunctional club;
(7) Frank de Boer having no time with players whose fitness had been compromised due to the club focusing on exposure, money and a pre-season tour at the expense of everything else;
(9) Management buying presents in the form of players when a coach has not been appointed and consulted on a given purchase and how that player is going to be utilised;
(9) The club continually renewing player contracts based on what the players have done in the past as opposed to what they have to offer in the future; and
(10) Following on from (9) above, the club’s absolute failure to adequately identify and assess below par performing players and get them off our books.

Most of the above has nothing to do with Frank de Boer and Inter’s management are delusional if they believe that changing coach will save our season. Management would do well to recognise that our season is over. They should start planning for next season by lining up a coach that they are willing to back without exception; giving that coach the time to adjust and manage his squad without a pre-season tour, as well as select the players he wants in his squad and those he wants targets in the transfer market. The new coach should be consulted throughout rather than waiting for him to arrive at the end of July and start again with the same useless shit players at his disposal.

The only other thing that I would like to add is that I sincerely hope that our dysfunction does not became so bad that we spend the season hovering above or battling against relegation. If you think that sounds far fetched, think again: psychologically, our players are fragile; they play in fits and starts; they have little to no composure, structure or desire to improve and play good football; they have a loser mentality and cannot put together 90 minutes of football. We have reached this point and it is not even January yet, the time in the season that Inter always struggle and fall away.

The next instalment of our terrible season comes on Thursday night against Southampton. Inter have always struggled when they play under the bright lights in England. The only difference to encounters of the past are that our opponents are far less illustrious and the prospect of an embarrassing result for a former European giant has never been greater.

Lastly, my thoughts are with Frank de Boer. Thank you for coming to Inter and attempting to try something different. Thank you for being willing to give us a go. I hope that wherever you go in the future, that you will find a much more tranquil environment that will support and back you without exception and will work at your side so as to allow you to move forward together.
 
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I wasn't for his sacking, but it's crazy to absolve him fully for our current predicament. We've a strong squad, the envy of many & are certainly better than our poor current position. He must as the manager shoulder the responsibility for that, such is the life of a manager whether people like it or not. At the end of the day, to paraphrase, results, dear boy, results. The next manager will tell us a lot about de Boers tenure at Inter.
 

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I wasn't for his sacking, but it's crazy to absolve him fully for our current predicament. We've a strong squad, the envy of many & are certainly better than our poor current position. He must as the manager shoulder the responsibility for that, such is the life of a manager whether people like it or not. The next manager will tell us a lot about de Boers tenure at Inter.

Probably the most impartial, logical and sensible post here within the last few days. Sums up the situation perfectly for a lot of fans im sure, myself included
 

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https://twitter.com/footballitalia/status/793483447582982144
"Inter looks like a beautiful diva dressed in blue and black, but in reality she is nothing more than a prostitute” -Former Ajax TD David Endt, who says he warned Frank De Boer about taking the Inter job


Considering how many men handles us and how we love to get f*cked, David Endt is right :eek:blivious:
 

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Wise words, Puma. Another post that uses common sense.

I think Inter have missed on a rare opportunity in De Boer to install a different approach and philosophy. They obviously have no plans and don't know what to do with this club. Have fun with mediocre Italian managers and zero youth project while you're delusionally waiting for Simeone to leave a healthy CL club for a broken mess of a club that can't compete in Europa League.
 

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Good news at last now that they got rid off de Boer... the only person that can fix Inters problems is El Cholo

they should also get rid of the overpaid premaddonas who don't wanna be at Inter... you can see it on their faces and attitudes during matches really pathetic players
 

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Good riddance, though I still blame management more than the coach for where Inter is right now. Hated the timing of bringing a guy on short notice and just giving him a small window to get used to his players.

Hello caretaker.... can they actually get a real manager?
 

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This thread is starting to give me a headache.
 

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I'm also sad about FdB out. But the results just too bad. Even the management that supported him couldn't help to defend him anymore. It's a pity.
So what's next? another hiring a coach and then sack him again?
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people said we have the 2nd most expensive squad in the league, yes of course, look at this :
1) K-Dog - 40 million
2) Gabriel - 30 million
3) Eder - .... million
4) Biabia - .... million
5 ) Palacio - .... million
6) Jovetic - .... million
7) Melo - .... million
8) Rano - .... million
9) Naga - .... million
10) Dambro - ..... million
11) Santon - .... million
12) Murillo - ..... million
13) Ansaldi - .... million
14) ............
someone please help me with those price tag.

people said we have a strong squad, well...what the criteria of a strong squad btw? what I saw is we have qualities in some position, but also lack the qualities in some position ( for example our fullback ), also the most important thing is we lack the leadership on the field, we have a captain who can't control his team mates on the field and bad examples off the field. we're good in term of skills, but as a team we're not a strong squad imo.

also the fact that many people are upset about us sacking de Boer makes me want to know how many people are upset when Mancio leaves us.
 

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I dont know why everyone are so in love with De Boer, the fact is :
1. He lose 7 in 14 games
2. Result dont come when he is the coach
3. Almost eliminated from EL group and got near relegation zone in league table. 14 place? Thats not acceptable for big club like Inter.
4. Not playing gabigol (sunning invest big on him for 30 M not to be a bench warmer)
5. All blame the management bla bla bla , the fact is management has done great thing by invest heavily in the summer market.
6. Blame on Mancini for playing hide and seek and decide to leave inter just 2 weeks before season begin.
7. Fdb lost the locker room since he has military academy discipline on our team, dont get wrong, discipline is good when you treat it to bunch teenage or young footballer like the ajax team , but in Inter they are all a man with average age is 27, so you have to do it differently like the mou or ancelotti did by respect reach other, not just grounding the players when he made mistake like a kid
8. And the last , clearly most fans in italy inter fans majority agree and pro with this sack, if not they were riot in street like the vucinic guarin case.
 
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I dont know why everyone are so in love with De Boer, the fact is :
1. He lose 7 in 14 games
2. Result dont come when he is the coach
3. Almost eliminated from EL group and got near relegation zone in league table. 14 place? Thats not acceptable for big club like Inter.
4. Not playing gabigol (sunning invest big on him for 30 M not to be a bench warmer)
5. All blame the management bla bla bla , the fact is management has done great thing by invest heavily in the summer market.
6. Blame on Mancini for playing hide and seek and decide to leave inter just 2 weeks before season begin.
7. Fdb lost the locker room since he has military academy discipline on our team, dont get wrong, discipline is good when you treat it to bunch teenage or young footballer like the ajax team , but in Inter they are all a man with average age is 27, so you have to do it differently like the mou or ancelotti did by respect reach other, not just grounding the players when he made mistake like a kid
8. And the last , clearly most fans in italy inter fans majority agree and pro with this sack, if not they were riot in street like the vucinic guarin case.

as far as I know, investment on youth takes time and patience to get the best profit. we invest big on 21 years old K-Dog 2 years ago and started to rush everything, labelling him as good as Pogba, put a big pressure on his shoulder, look who is K-Dog now, I doubt we can even sell him half the price we bought him.
 

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For me De Boer had good ideas for the team but his problem was that he should have imposed them step by step. His tactics also was very questionable sometimes. He always insisted of high defensive line and possession based football. This is good, but in Italy doesn't work so well because small teams are very familiar counter-attacking with. Against Roma also he fielded high defensive line, against fast players like Salah and Shaaraway.
Another weak point of him is that he's lost the dressing room with his harsh punishments and also his ability to motivate the team is questionable. Every team with new coach has up and downs but the good coach has to handle the downs and to be able to drive the team out of the hole. See Conte in Chelsea, he'd had a bad period with consecutive defeats but he's reacted well and now his team is climbing up instead to digging down.
I cannot complain for his substitutes and players' selection because it's clear that without proper pre season he had to assess players' qualities on the way, so it's normal to make mistakes.
 

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We all said at the start that this would only work if De Boer got time. Only people who couldnt see this were management
 
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