Frank de Boer

[.h.]

so browha, do we fire the next coach after 84 days should he fail to bring in results, too?

I'm still curious as to how exactly you think that this makes us better. Or are you gonna keep dodging any post that disagrees with you all the while you pretend like context or common sense doesn't matter because he had the 2nd most expensive squad in Italy?

Its funny how the ones who chirped the loudest for Frank getting sacked look about as dumb and clueless as the club's management in the aftermath.

As ever, I've said quite clearly its about showing progress. I dont expect us to be winning every match after 84 days, clearly not, but I dont want to see us clearly regress by the fucking match.

The only person who looks dumb and clueless here is the idiot who flippantly wants FDB sacked because of minor consequences around his favourite dump-player in Kdog.

 

[Javier'sSon]

The only person who looks dumb and clueless here is the idiot who flippantly wants FDB sacked because of minor consequences around his favourite dump-player in Kdog.

 

[Nyall]

As ever, I've said quite clearly its about showing progress. I dont expect us to be winning every match after 84 days, clearly not, but I dont want to see us clearly regress by the fucking match.
The only person who looks dumb and clueless here is the idiot who flippantly wants FDB sacked because of minor consequences around his favourite dump-player in Kdog.

So completely throwing out everything we've worked towards so far, and starting at worse than 0, because we're again going to even less prepared and more screwed than the opponents we face is progress? Just asking since regression avoidance is what you seek?

The world is now aware that our club is a joke that is run and supported by idiots. And yeah, my support of Frank was based on his player management and youth development. I wanted him sacked after he made a critical mistake and we all suffered for it and wanted him to stay after rectifying it.

 

[.h.]

what we've worked towards? I can plan to build the fucking death star, doesnt mean its a sensible idea, or achievable.


His plan wasnt remotely achievable on the time scale needed to deliver it. It's not even clear if it was achievable AT ALL.

 

[nurko]

what we've worked towards? I can plan to build the fucking death star, doesnt mean its a sensible idea, or achievable.


His plan wasnt remotely achievable on the time scale needed to deliver it. It's not even clear if it was achievable AT ALL.

The main problem here is the time scale needed to deliver it. Not his fault management decided do support his project and then decided not to support his project. Yes, he did not adapt his tactics so far, that doesn't mean he would not have done it eventually, considering that his tactics were not failing all the time.

 

[.h.]

The main problem here is the time scale needed to deliver it. Not his fault management decided do support his project and then decided not to support his project. Yes, he did not adapt his tactics so far, that doesn't mean he would not have done it eventually, considering that his tactics were not failing all the time.

still doesnt mean he should have suggested embarking on some kind of marathon 3 year change programme

 

[Nyall]

what we've worked towards? I can plan to build the fucking death star, doesnt mean its a sensible idea, or achievable.


His plan wasnt remotely achievable on the time scale needed to deliver it. It's not even clear if it was achievable AT ALL.

And so adding ANOTHER person to the list of people we pay A LOT of money to who do NOTHING for us, benefits us how?

I'm just trying to see your actual rationale behind wanting him sacked. Mine was: I have an unhealthy obsession with letting people know how much I hate Kondogbia and when Frank played him, that led me to wanting Frank sacked and flip-flopping the week after when Frank dropped him again. What's yours?

 

[.h.]

And so adding ANOTHER person to the list of people we pay A LOT of money to who do NOTHING for us, benefits us how?

I'm just trying to see your actual rationale behind wanting him sacked. Mine was: I have an unhealthy obsession with letting people know how much I hate Kondogbia and when Frank played him, that led me to wanting Frank sacked and flip-flopping the week after when Frank dropped him again. What's yours?

Eh I dont disagree, we shouldnt have hired him in the first place.



I want him sacked because I hope, and believe, that there is another coach out there who is better. Who that is, I dont know.
Happy to hold my hands up and admit that. But a guy who has lost 7 in 14 games for us cant be the best possible coach we can achieve.(That, combined with the regressing performances, etc)



Adding him to the pay list is a consequence, not an action. The action is replacing him with a, hopefully, better coach. Having to pay him as we do Mancini is a consequence of that action.


And to be honest, the 1.35 million he's going to get is nothing in comparison to the damage we could do if nothing improved.

 

[Jane The Virgin]

Until we hire a good coach (de boer was good) that has a minimum 3 year without the possibility to get fired, we will never move forward.

Players know what kind of a mess we are, they know if they lose 3/4 games, another coach will come, we will win some games due to the most retarded philosophy - new page, new inter, and go back to "normal" after shit gets south.

Appointing Frank 2 weeks before the season was a bad move, but i would take Frank over Mancini every day, so that was a good replacement, just a very VERY late one.

I think that everything has been said, year after year, us the fans who are everything but football experts have seen the mistakes, from the outside, with no knowledge whats going on behind the curtains whatsoever, and we give again and again better solutions, and yet our team cant seem to do that, people who get overrpaid cant seem to do that.

I dont know how can they be so dumb. Top3 is a dream, top5 as well. So why did they fire Frank? What coach will win everything there is until the end? So it seems every year we start as year 0... As i said, everything has been said already, there is no "smart-ass" joke to be said after all these years of desperation.

I would agree on something browha said, that we need someone who will show them literally who's the boss, but with this kind of management, i dont think a coach is able to do that, when they (the players) already know that they wont take the blame or pay the price, but rather the coach, so having said that, no mediocre coach from Serie A is a solution, no gasspersons, no mazzaris, no stramalas, we need first and foremost, someone who wont take shit even from the management, let alone the fucking players.

There is a solution, as a matter of fact there are multiple solutions to our shit-show, but we all know, that Inter will choose the worst possible outcome. The shittiest, the dumbest...




forza fuckin inter...

 

[Nyall]

Eh I dont disagree, we shouldnt have hired him in the first place.

So you wanted him sacked so the people who made this supposed mistake can make it again?

I want him sacked because I hope, and believe, that there is another coach out there who is better. Who that is, I dont know.
Happy to hold my hands up and admit that. But a guy who has lost 7 in 14 games for us cant be the best possible coach we can achieve.(That, combined with the regressing performances, etc)



Adding him to the pay list is a consequence, not an action. The action is replacing him with a, hopefully, better coach. Having to pay him as we do Mancini is a consequence of that action.


And to be honest, the 1.35 million he's going to get is nothing in comparison to the damage we could do if nothing improved.

What damage could Frank have possibly done than our management declaring our season over on November 1st and announcing to the world that Inter is a joke? The impression we have left through this a horrible one to prospective coaches and players, that's far far more damaging than another mid-table finish. This doesn't look bad on Frank, it looks bad on Inter, and every game we lose until the end of the season, will just make it look worse and worse..


If we're trying to grow a brand and get fans, this is the worst way to do it. Our only way now is to spend a shit ton, which again just makes us look stupid for not waiting, at least until January.

 

[.h.]

No but this time we havent appointed a new coach within 24 hours just on someones recommendatiom without any substantial interviewing process...

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Until we hire a good coach (de boer was good) that has a minimum 3 year without the possibility to get fired, we will never move forward.

Players know what kind of a mess we are, they know if they lose 3/4 games, another coach will come, we will win some games due to the most retarded philosophy - new page, new inter, and go back to "normal" after shit gets south.

Appointing Frank 2 weeks before the season was a bad move, but i would take Frank over Mancini every day, so that was a good replacement, just a very VERY late one.

I think that everything has been said, year after year, us the fans who are everything but football experts have seen the mistakes, from the outside, with no knowledge whats going on behind the curtains whatsoever, and we give again and again better solutions, and yet our team cant seem to do that, people who get overrpaid cant seem to do that.

I dont know how can they be so dumb. Top3 is a dream, top5 as well. So why did they fire Frank? What coach will win everything there is until the end? So it seems every year we start as year 0... As i said, everything has been said already, there is no "smart-ass" joke to be said after all these years of desperation.

I would agree on something browha said, that we need someone who will show them literally who's the boss, but with this kind of management, i dont think a coach is able to do that, when they (the players) already know that they wont take the blame or pay the price, but rather the coach, so having said that, no mediocre coach from Serie A is a solution, no gasspersons, no mazzaris, no stramalas, we need first and foremost, someone who wont take shit even from the management, let alone the fucking players.

There is a solution, as a matter of fact there are multiple solutions to our shit-show, but we all know, that Inter will choose the worst possible outcome. The shittiest, the dumbest...




forza fuckin inter...

No one in the world is given 3 years without the possibility of being fired

 

[Nyall]

No but this time we havent appointed a new coach within 24 hours just on someones recommendatiom without any substantial interviewing process...

Pioli is in Milan.. Surely you don't think he's better than Frank?

 

[.h.]

Pioli is in Milan.. Surely you don't think he's better than Frank?

I dont know. On some kind of sheer tactical level possibly not. On suitability for serie a and getting resukts now he mifmght well be. I dont really like speculating about new signings; players or coaches.

 

[Zlatan4life]

Ronald de Boer (Frank's brother)

“Of course I am disappointed and so is he.

“Frank was combative and convinced he could turn things around if he had stayed. Unfortunately, it went differently. He hoped to have success in Italy, but over the last seven days something changed.

“You must also look at yourself. Frank was unable to change the situation on the pitch, but it is also possible to point to several factors that made a big difference.

“The squad was not suited to playing his style of football and was also decidedly too big. There were seven or eight players who should’ve left or he didn’t want, but they didn’t sell any more than two.

“I include among these Gabriel Barbosa. Frank had no say in that transfer, so Gabriel just arrived out of the blue.”

“Frank thought he could just concentrate on the football, but in the end found himself having to deal with other indirect issues.

“We thought that Inter, being a big club, could be suited to him, but it was an error of judgment. It was an unfortunate experience, but an educational one.

“They say at times you learn more from defeats than victories. If he does go to another club, everyone needs to be more flexible.”

http://www.football-italia.net/93793/de-boer-didnt-want-gabigol

 

[achilles]

Who runs a football club? The owner(s)? The players? The fans? The manager?
That is what we should answer first and foremost.

Right now Inter develops 17 year olds, to sell them at 19, not to develop them into first team players. Its a profitable strategy, but is it the best one?

We buy players because of their agents, or because clubs are selling. We are forced into selling our only good players, to finance the arrival of the next good player! On what planet does that even begin to make sense?

Have we replaced Samuel and Lucio? No (although Miranda is the closest we have had to it for a while)
Have we replaced Zanetti and Maicon? No. Fuck no. Hell no. Fuck you for even asking.
Have we replaced Sneijder? No, but Banega, with more Serie A experience could be close.
Have we replaced Milito and Eto'o? No. Icardi, on his best day, is a poor man's Julio Cruz
Have we replaced Cambiasso? Don't even get me started on that Medel fella.

Do we have someone of Coutinho's quality, currently?
Do we have someone of Kovacic's quality, currently? K-dog! HA!
Do we have someone of Shaqiri's quality, currently? (Perisic and Candreva are pretty close to Shaqiri's level)

So there you go. In what area are we actually stronger?

 

[Verathia]

Our team is broken.

 

[Moradinho]

Our team is broken.

Just imagine Batman being Inter, and well...Bane being our retarded management...

 

[firmino]

if only de boer had been just a tiny bit smarter, we wouldn't have this discussion right know. was it necessary to be such an integralist? wasn't it possible to implement his football philosophy little by little? even mourinho switched from 4-2-3-1 to 4-1-3-2 in his first year at Inter. we always looked like we could even lose on our turf against the likes of crotone. i mean, i wish he had showed at least a bit of "survival instict".

 

[Harpsabu]

Do we have someone of Shaqiri's quality, currently? (Perisic and Candreva are pretty close to Shaqiri's level)

Perisic and Candreva are both much better than Shaqiri. Our team is strong but for a few positions!

Handa, Miranda, J.Mario, Banega, Perisic, Brozovic, Candreva, Icardi are great players,, Ansaldi might be decent, Murillo isn't too bad. Its obviously in no way comparable to our treble team, but in the league right now, its a very good team.

 

[Wallace]

if only de boer had been just a tiny bit smarter, we wouldn't have this discussion right know. was it necessary to be such an integralist? wasn't it possible to implement his football philosophy little by little? even mourinho switched from 4-2-3-1 to 4-1-3-2 in his first year at Inter. we always looked like we could even lose on our turf against the likes of crotone. i mean, i wish he had showed at least a bit of "survival instict".

Its easier said than done, look at Mourinho with his squad right now. Mourinho's squad back in 2008 was brimming with quality and was just head and shoulders above everyone else by far.