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I stayed right next to the Panathinaikos stadium in Ambelokipi during my trip to Athens a few years ago and I was shocked by how poorly it was maintained. Do they actually play/train there? I can't believe that one of the most prominent football clubs in Greece plays in such a shitty arena
 

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I stayed right next to the Panathinaikos stadium in Ambelokipi during my trip to Athens a few years ago and I was shocked by how poorly it was maintained. Do they actually play/train there? I can't believe that one of the most prominent football clubs in Greece plays in such a shitty arena

They play occasionally in that stadium. It depends on whether they can afford Olympic Stadium rent or not. This season they play in Olympic Stadium. They're in discussions for a new stadium (have been for more than a decade tbh) but building a new stadium in Greece is even more difficult than in Italy.
 

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I stayed right next to the Panathinaikos stadium in Ambelokipi during my trip to Athens a few years ago and I was shocked by how poorly it was maintained. Do they actually play/train there? I can't believe that one of the most prominent football clubs in Greece plays in such a shitty arena

Everytime there are plans to renovate it, it is blocked. It's a fucked up situation but if you don't bother you can see a basic description of the shitfest below.

Old management (from mid to late 2000s) essentially gave up the rights of having a proper permit there as they tied it in a stupid stadium project elsewhere so they have to renew the building license every five years just to not have it teared down.

The only reason why the football team plays at OAKA is because the guy who run the club (which owns the stadium) did not let the football team play there and wanted more money than what the Olympic stadium requested. Which is nuts.


The stadium itself hosts at least 15 other sports, from basketball ((women's and youth academies) to boxing, archery, table tennis, weight lifting, Olympic shooting and various others. It's not just football, there's a whole organization involved there daily.

The system in Greece is similar to the Spanish one, but in 1979 they decided to have a "professional" system so every team had to create a company that run the football part. The club owned the shares and by law has to own at least 10%. So essentially that meant that eventually 90% of the football team is owned by a third party and not the club itself, unlike Barcelona and Real Madrid for example where the club is owned exclusively by the club members or Germany with a 50+1 rule which leads to majority rule by the club members.

The situation is beyond shit with internal issues since 1996 that come and go (1996, 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016, 2020, seriously every four years there's another huge situation going on and it's usually for the worse) and general corruption in the league that drives people away from having an actual interest to get invested in this thing.

So fans want to rebuild a stadium where the current one is, government wants that piece of land for themselves (it's a huge plot in the center of Athens and its busiest intersection) and no one running the club has the guts to chase this because they are more interested in making money by being handed business opportunities in the new disastrous stadium project which keeps getting worse and worse and has become an even bigger financial burden for the long run than the current situation.

In Greece it's basically like in Italy. One club runs the system and even the country, has its own stadium which was built scandalously while AEK was supposed to be in the project and had its own stadium teared down in the early 2000s only to manage to rebuild it, well, next year! No one else has a new stadium. It's just Olympiakos. And ever since they built it in 2004, away fans have been banned in Greece, mostly because they don't want other fans to go there and make a mess of it.
If you want a new stadium, even when you own the land and have the money, you have to bend over to the government, city council, several judicial boards, political parties, several non-existent "social clubs" or "environmental clubs" and your own crazy management/ownership that doesn't align their interests with those of the club's prosperity.
Just consider than in 2008 a new stadium was blocked because 300 random people signed to preserve a place that is essentially an industrial dumpster, because some Athenian crows allegedly live there. Which became a funny meme when the political party that run that shit ended up being government and wanted to push that project again and the message was "the crows have left" :lol:

Funny thing is that there is a fund approved by the council to renovate it, but the same council doesn't give the relevant permits to do so :lol:
The main reason is because they fucked up with the building permits and the coefficients of building structure so you cannot do much. It's legally a "park" and not a building while it has a permit as a sports stadium and a valid license to be an actual sports related structure. Never go full Greek with the legalities :lol:

So long story short, those who have the power to fix this, don't give a fuck.
 

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given this guys interview he's probably like hakimiwat
 

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I wonder if he knew about Hakimi when he did his interview
 
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He's going on loan to Verona or Maybe Genoa as part deal, its good for his experience.
Kumbulla = €€ + him (loan)

Hakimi and Candreva still in the pole position for next season
 

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GEORGIOS VAGIANNIDIS LOANED TO SINT-TRUIDEN
The 19-year-old defender has joined the Belgian side on a temporary basis

MILAN - FC Internazionale Milano announce that Georgios Vagiannidis has joined Koninklijke Sint-Truidense Voetbalvereniging on a one-year loan deal.
 
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Damn did this guy even get a training with the first team?
 
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Damn did this guy even get a training with the first team?

I saw him in the odd photo looking like a fish out of water.

Playing in a relegation level Belgian league team is probably his level right now. If he's any good, he'll show something.
 
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It's a suicidal move for him. They should have shipped him back to Greece for the year.
 
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Why the fuck did we do that move?
 

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Hope he will at least play regularly with another player on loan from Inter, namely Argentinian striker Facundo Colidia.

@Mods: could we please move this thread in the Loaned Players section? It`s all official.
 
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If you would like to make a thread for him in the youth team section I will move it to loaned players. We typically leave transfer speculation threads here.
 
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But he's already an Inter player, why does this thread exist?
 
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I’ll just move this one, usually we don’t want all the transfer speculation gossip in the player thread. There really isn’t much here.
 
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straight to former
 

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As has been reported by FCIN1908, Georgios Vagiannidis has decided to stop trying to make it in Italy for the time being and make a permanent move back to his native Greece to relaunch his career.

The 19-year-old right-back has never made a senior appearance for Inter and only made one appearance for Panathinaikos before his move to Italy in 2020.

He spent the previous campaign on loan at Belgian side Sint-Truiden but it was a very disappointing experience for him where he only managed to make one appearance.

His contract with the Nerazzurri runs until 2024 so Inter are much more likely to only permit a loan move rather than a permanent exit, although that move will almost certainly be to a Greek side.

> Feel sorry for this kid, feels like nobody looked after his career. Just hope he`ll get constant playing time wherever he gets next, so he can further develop.
 
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