Goal Scorers and Assist-Men 2020/21

[brehme1989]

Serie A number is the only one that matters.

 

[Bluenine]

Inter 5-1 Sampdoria
4' Gagliardini (a: Young, kc: Martinez)
26' Sanchez (a: Gagliardini)
36' Sanchez (a: Hakimi)
61' Pinamonti (a: Barella)
70' Martinez pen (kc: Barella)

- For consistency, assists awarded as per Livescore
- kc = Key contributions
- GC = Total Goal Contributions = Goals + Assists + kc
- GC% = Percentage of Inter goals the player has contributed towards

 

[Broseph]

Thanks for updating this table week in and week out!

 

[brehme1989]

Inter 5-1 Sampdoria
4' Gagliardini (a: Young, kc: Martinez)
26' Sanchez (a: Gagliardini)
36' Sanchez (a: Hakimi)
61' Pinamonti (a: Barella)

For the first two goals I was thinking that Vecino deserves a KC.

For the first one, not because he passed to Lautaro, but mostly because on top of that he rushed into the box, occupying the defender that was supposed to mark Martinez, instead the guy who had to handle Gagliardini ended up with Martinez and it was too late to stop the goal.

For the second one, maybe a bit extreme, but he freed the ball from defense with a one-touch pass that enabled the counter attack (granted due to Gagliardini's awareness there), but we were under pressure by 4-5 Sampdoria players, moving past the 6th Sampdoria player. It didn't look like an attack until that Vecino tocuh from the edge of our box and it deserves credit imo. It's only extreme if you view KC as a potential assist, but that's not really how they've been spread around. Starting a 3-4 counter should qualify for a KC.


For the Pinamonti goal, Martinez needs a KC. You've handed several KC for similar situations.

 

[Bluenine]

Inter 3-1 Roma
11' Brozovic (a: Darmian, kc: Sanchez)
20' Vecino (a: Lukaku, kc: Barella)
90' Lukaku (a: Hakimi, kc: Barella)


Inter 5-1 Sampdoria
4' Gagliardini (a: Young, kc: Martinez)
26' Sanchez (a: Gagliardini, kc: Vecino)
36' Sanchez (a: Hakimi)
61' Pinamonti (a: Barella)
70' Martinez pen (kc: Barella)

Re Brehme's comments on the Sampdoria game:

1. The first goal Vecino's pass looked almost accidental, I viewed it again and it didn't seem kc worthy even including the run.
2. The 2nd goal, that was a quality pass that started the counter. So on review, I agree with you - its kc worthy and have given Vecino the kc above.
3. Pinamonti's goal, that Martinez pass was under hit and it almost ruined the attack. If anyone deserves a kc, its the player who made the long pass to Barella to start the attack. Not Martinez.

Happy to change any of this if others agree/disagree.

 

[brehme1989]

On the first goal I proposed on a KC mostly due to the entire movement. He enabled the goal as he distracted a key defender from the box. In other circumstances, that defender would have been on Lautaro and his marker would have been able to clear the ball before Gagliardini entered the box.

 

[Devious]

Nice, I just saw this. Love that KC thingy. Also makes sense that Sanchez has the best KC despite playing less time than the other players.

He’s not just the season’s KC, he’s the KFC “Key Fucken Contributer”

 

[CafeCordoba]

Some stats padding in these latest games (5 goals, 3 goals, 2 goals).

Juve:
- Lukaku goal, Martinez KC
- own goal, Barella KC, Lukaku KC

 

[Bluenine]

Inter 5-1 Udinese
8' Young (kc: Martinez)
44' Eriksen
55' Martinez pen (kc: Hakimi)
64' Perisic (a: Vecino, kc: Lukaku )
71' Lukaku (kc: Sanchez)


Calvarese 3-2 Inter
35' Lukaku pen (kc: Martinez)
83' OG (kc: Lukaku, Barella)

- For consistency, assists awarded as per Livescore
- kc = Key contributions
- GC = Total Goal Contributions = Goals + Assists + kc
- GC% = Percentage of Inter goals the player has contributed towards

 

[brehme1989]

This is why I asked for a KC on Lautaro in the Pinamonti goal vs Udinese. You've now given one to Lukaku for a very similar situation with the Perisic goal without hesitation and he didn't even make a pass for a scoring chance [nor did his run affect the defense]. Should it be a KC? Yes. But you have ommitted those for other players multiple times.

And then you call me biased

 

[Batman]

Sensi’s stats are pathetic

 

[brehme1989]

This is what I got at the end of the day:

As a reminder, I do not hand out KC for players that win penalties (so no Sensi) and assists are given whether it's an own goal or not (Barella had 2 of those, Eriksen 1, Vidal another. The first own goal was unassisted and Lautaro merely got a KC).

 

[YoramG]

Hakimi, good lord. The man's supposedly a defender.

 

[Puma]

Sensi’s stats are pathetic

Sensi is pathetic.

 

[Bluenine]

This is why I asked for a KC on Lautaro in the Pinamonti goal vs Udinese. You've now given one to Lukaku for a very similar situation with the Perisic goal without hesitation and he didn't even make a pass for a scoring chance [nor did his run affect the defense]. Should it be a KC? Yes. But you have ommitted those for other players multiple times.

And then you call me biased

I have explained this before - KCs are awarded on a case to case basis, they are a judgement call and I am happy to review. I already explained why I did not give Lautaro a KC on Pinamonti's goal:

3. Pinamonti's goal, that Martinez pass was under hit and it almost ruined the attack. If anyone deserves a kc, its the player who made the long pass to Barella to start the attack. Not Martinez.

I gave Lukaku a KC on Perisic's goal coz his 1-2 with Vecino was quality. Like I said, happy to review either decision if others disagree. KC are subject to peer review here after every game, and I have changed my position with majority opinion every time, sometimes even based on just your opinion. So not sure why you imply I am being biased. Just because I don't agree with you every time?

 

[brehme1989]

You called me biased first for having closer to FIGC standards for assists, not nice when it's thrown out at random, huh?

 

[Bluenine]

You called me biased first for having closer to FIGC standards for assists, not nice when it's thrown out at random, huh?

I am sorry for being so biased to award assists only as per Livescore for consistency, as mentioned in every single post. Maybe next season I will let you cherry pick a different website for each game to award assists to ensure that Lukaku gets the lowest possible number of assists, since you only seem to have a problem with his assists.

:rollani:

 

[brehme1989]

I am sorry for being so biased to award assists only as per Livescore for consistency, as mentioned in every single post. Maybe next season I will let you cherry pick a different website for each game to award assists to ensure that Lukaku gets the lowest possible number of assists, since you only seem to have a problem with his assists.

:rollani:

Actually, you are biased. And quite obsessed. Why focus on Lukaku? His two assists you claim are not considered assists by the official parties.

Why not comment on Lautaro where I have him with 3 assists, and not the 6 you gave him?
Or Perisic who I have recorded for 3 and you have for 4? Who is getting obsessed with Lukaku here? It's also hilarious when you consider those two "assists" you want me to credit. A missed header from the line that touched the back of his head...come on

 

[Bluenine]

Actually, you are biased. And quite obsessed. Why focus on Lukaku? His two assists you claim are not considered assists by the official parties.

For the last time, we use Livescore for assists for consis.... oh fuck it. :rollani:

Why don't you write to Livescore for being biased re that assist for Lukaku. Pls also talk to GdS and Transfermarkt who also awarded that assist to Lukaku. Good luck. Or maybe you can chill. It doesn't matter if a player gets an assist instead of a kc.

Either way, I am done responding to you on this topic.

 

[brehme1989]

Last I checked, Lukaku plays for a team that's registered under the FIGC. Why don't you use the stats of the official sources? Both FIGC and UEFA provide these.

And once again, why so much fixation on Lukaku missing out on two blatant non-assists in my list and no comments on Lautaro also missing two assists? Who's biased here? And why are you being so aggressive over this?