Group B

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Nerazzurri_Ninja

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I think Retegui and Raspadori together was a smart move, it was only missing Cheisa from the start.

Though Zaccagni is now supersub, not even sure i mind him starting.
 

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Fagioli is a better footballer than Cristante even after not playing for almost a year. There is no reason to ever use Cristante over Fagioli.
 

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Who said this?

Pretty awful to complain about the ref. Croatia spent time as much as possible when the ball wasn't in the play so 8 mins was totally deserved.

Croatia needs to look at themselves and ask why they conceded two goals in stoppage time in two games. That basically killed their tournament.

Spalletti got away from this one, he got lucky. Italy wasn't too good, lacked solutions. The last 20 mins (and 7mins of stoppage) was pretty inept and that shouldn't be when you are chasing a goal because you risk going out of the tournament. Don't know if this was just a coincidence but when Scamacca replaced Raspadori, Italy just stopped playing well, the dominance dropped completely. Have to think the team simply hasn't played this 3-5-2 too much, hasn't trained it with 2 forwards who you hoof the ball to.

Spalletti should have started to use the 3-5-2 exclusively 6 months ago, when it was clear Inter is the best team in Italy by far. Use all these Inter players, use the formation and go with it. You get best out of Dimarco, Bastoni, Darmian, Bastoni (Barella can play in any role).
One small detail: the referee extended the match by 8 minutes. The Italians scored at 97:18. After the Italian celebration, the referee gave the signal for start from the center and immediately whistled the end. Capish?
 

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This says it all. Hillarious who did this lol1000017264.jpg
 

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Tbh I don't really disagree. Uefa/Fifa are a mafia. They do run a protection racket for their top earning players/teams. That being said, while I rate most of them highly, the Italian side (except barella,chiesa,donarumma) has no big names that are as recognizable as the modric's,mbappe's,griezmann's,musliala's,bellingam's of the world. I see no reason to fix a game for Italy, when croatia has more players in top teams all over europe.

Croatia did not play well (because of coach or players or both, I don't know). Italy looked the better of the 2 teams, crotian players comitted many fouls that warranted the 8 minutes of stopage. I think it was tactically,maybe, (get into Italian players heads) which backfired. Italy was just better today than croatia. It was just that kind of day.


Now 2014 world cup (were Italy was decent imo), Italy got shafted because uruguay had stars like suarez/cavanni that fifa needed to protect. That is an example of racket protection.
Remember how you past through Ukraine? Another robbery, Italia is clearly protected by Uefa and refs against "smaller names" teams.
 

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Honestly neither of those two teams deserved to go through, Italy was equally bad as Croatia and if Croatia has used the time to finish Italy off instead of all that melodrama they would be progressing. Croatia has the experience and the more prolific names… Italy is except a few a bunch of mediocre nobodies…

Honestly Italy needs to drastically improve or Switzerland will easily knock them out.
 

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8 minutes was way too much... The Hungary player was dying on the pitch for 7 minutes and they only extended the game to 10 min... Yesterday there was no real wasting time, other than one Stanisic leg cramp... Most he should have given was 4 min.
 

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8 minutes was way too much... The Hungary player was dying on the pitch for 7 minutes and they only extended the game to 10 min... Yesterday there was no real wasting time, other than one Stanisic leg cramp... Most he should have given was 4 min.
there were 5-6 subs in the 2nd half, each took 30 seconds. Add fouls, time-wasting, penalty review, goal celebrations...

p/s: I just watched the replay of the penalty incident. The ref stopped the match at 51:27 and whistled at 53:39 for Modric to take the penalty
p/s2: Perisic and Ivanusec sub took 65 seconds. You can make conclusions
 
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there were 5-6 subs in the 2nd half, each took 30 seconds. Add fouls, time-wasting, penalty review, goal celebrations...

p/s: I just watched the replay of the penalty incident. The ref stopped the match at 51:27 and whistled at 53:39 for Modric to take the penalty
p/s2: Perisic and Ivanusec sub took 65 seconds. You can make conclusions
every game has those subs and some of them also had VAR stuff and even more time wasting with fake injures... None of them got 8 min.
We are not in Quatar anymore.

Also, Italy score at 7.18, they celebrated for almost 2 minutes and then ref blew the whistle right at kick off.... They wanted Italy to score and it was pretty damn obvious.
 
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every game has those subs and some of them also had VAR stuff and even more time wasting with fake injures... None of them got 8 min.
We are not in Quatar anymore.
Scotland - Hungary 10 minutes
Cro -Alb - 6 mins
Tur - Geo - 6 minutes.

Give me a match where there were many stoppages and the ref added less than what you thought should have been added
 

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Scotland - Hungary 10 minutes
Cro -Alb - 6 mins
Tur - Geo - 6 minutes.

Give me a match where there were many stoppages and the ref added less than what you thought should have been added
yea, the sco-hun makes sense, as there was a player dying. That game could have got 10+ min and it would make sense... Still, no 8 minute games, and yesterdays game was no different than most of the games on this tournament.
 

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Man, I had better opinion of our Croatian fans. Crybabies. Fucking move on.
 

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Also, Italy score at 7.18, they celebrated for almost 2 minutes and then ref blew the whistle right at kick off.... They wanted Italy to score and it was pretty damn obvious.
Maybe the extra time was 7 minutes and 20 seconds and since you can't show that time on the display, the decision was 8 minutes, but he stopped exactly when the real extra time ran out. I don't know, I'm just guessing. With that said, I don't deny the possibility that there might have been a conspiracy favoring the Italians. who knows...
 
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Actually I would like to keep tradition going for our future generation. So 1-1 would be good.
Perfect.

Now retire cunt and never show up again in our football.
 

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So, they give this guy to officiate important game like yesterday. What a joke!!

08:08, 25 June 2024
For stealing Ronaldo's goal, he sacrificed his friend. Now Croatia hates him

DANNY MAKKELIE (41), a police inspector from Rotterdam, has been one of the most hated characters in Croatia since last night. The fans of the national team consider him the biggest culprit that Croatia failed to beat Italy (1:1) in the last match of the Euro group and thus practically dropped out of the championship.

Croats claim that he was the best player of Italy. Italy, on the other hand, scored the saving goal to advance to the knockout round in the last, eighth second of stoppage time. The players, coach and fans of Croatia, as well as numerous journalists, are convinced that there was no justification for such a long extension. Except, of course, the Dutch judge's affection for the Italians.
Croats point out exactly that and state that this is evidenced not only by the excessively long overtime, but also by the criteria of the referee during the match. Makkelie is accused of allowing rudeness and dirtiness to the Italians, and sanctioning it to the Croats. But this is not the first big stain on the career of the Dutch judge. More precisely, there are much bigger ones.

Ruined the semifinals of the last Euro
Makkelie is the actor of two big stories in world football in 2021, which are also the biggest scandals. The Dutch police inspector ruined the semi-finals of the Euros that year by failing to disallow a goal scored irregularly by the Danes from a free-kick in the 30th minute of the match between England and Denmark (2:1), and then in the 103rd minute he awarded a non-existent penalty for England. , after which the hosts scored to win at Wembley.

The fact that there was no penalty is obvious to anyone who watched the game, and football fans around the world, experts, analysts and independent referee experts agree with that. Nevertheless, VAR gave support to the referee, who confirmed the penalty for England without additional checking, or rather watching the disputed situation on the screen.

It was performed by Harry Kane. The Danish goalkeeper Kasper Schmeichel saved his penalty kick, but the ball bounced off him to the foot of Kane, who put it into the net on the second attempt to send England to the final.

It seems incredible that UEFA's elite referee, who already refereed 46 matches that season, including Dynamo in the Europa League against Villarreal, failed multiple times in one of the biggest matches, while he officiated as many as four matches at the Euros.

However, the inexcusable hiccups of the heavyweight referee in the semi-finals of the Euros, who also had seven assistants, who did nothing to help him, are clearer if we remember what he did four months earlier in Belgrade.

In the third minute of stoppage time, with the score 2:2 in the match between Serbia and Portugal in the World Cup qualifiers, Cristiano Ronaldo beat Marko Domitrović. He sent the ball to the goalkeeper of Serbia, who ran out of the goal, into an empty goal.

The ball clearly crossed the line with its full volume, but Stefan Mitrović with a sliding start prevented it from going further and shaking the net, so the head referee Makkelie and the assistant on that side Mario Diks did not see that Portugal had scored a goal.
Ronaldo was already celebrating the goal, and Mitrović brilliantly saved Serbia on the line once again after Bernardo Silva's shot. He picked up the rebound, which the Serbian defender took out of the goal, and shot from ten meters. However, everyone's attention was focused on Ronaldo, who first celebrated the goal, but then went crazy on Diks when he saw that the referees did not recognize the goal. There could not be a VAR check either, because video technology and that assistant referee are not used in the World Cup qualifiers.

Ronaldo was furious like never before

Ronaldo was furious. He flailed his arms, yelled at Diks and Makkelie, took off his captain's armband and threw it onto the field, to end his display of outrage on the field by "signaling the end" of the game and demonstratively walking off the field into the Marakana tunnel, even though the game was still going on.

Makkelie, on the other hand, went to the dressing room of Portugal after the game to apologize to his coach and players for the big mistake and said that he should have conceded the goal. However, that didn't make Ronaldo happy, and stealing an obvious goal from the biggest soccer superstar is a huge blow to the reputation of any referee, especially the one who wants to go all the way at the upcoming Euro.
 
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"The selector was extremely dissatisfied with the refereeing of the Dutchman Danny Makkelie: "He was not sent to that match by chance. He tore us apart the whole match, and the culmination was those eight minutes of stoppage time. I was talking about Uefa and Fifa, you didn't support me in that, but it wasn't that the reason, I want to say it no matter how much some people criticize me, it is a fact.

There were six substitutions, so three minutes maximum. And there was VAR for a minute, and he put eight. But again, it's not his fault that we don't throw ourselves at the last ball. If we didn't score a counter three on two, we had everything in our hands, I don't blame anyone. A lot of things came together and I'm sorry."

I agree about ref, but I also agree that you should fuck off.
 
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