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SiamoNoi

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Man, I had better opinion of our Croatian fans. Crybabies. Fucking move on.
Lying cunt in tears and mostly klobučari (casuals only following football when big games are on) crying about the ref all over the country, this is just perfect ending.
 

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Remember how you past through Ukraine? Another robbery, Italia is clearly protected by Uefa and refs against "smaller names" teams.
I don't understand. You are referring to 2012 euro group stage or 2006 world cup quarter final? What do you mean by "past through ukraine"?

Italy has 4 world cups and 2 european championships. No referees needed. Croatia played like shit. Italy played better, after playing like crap against spain they needed to perform better last night and they did. To say they cheated is just dishonest. Croatia did not deserve to be the 2nd place team after their terrible performances.

I think the final standings are indicative of the group, spain is the strongest and italy is ok, not great, but any Italy fan/Italian could of told you this and tbh We all expected to finish at least 2nd, 1st would have been a pipe dream for us at this point, the team needs time to see what spalletti can do(not that I like him).

Italy's had to deal with bad referring too. Or maybe you conveniently forgot 2002 world cup vs south korea or the 2014 suarez t-rex incident where the ref essentially allowed suarez to eat some of chiellini.
 

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Lying cunt in tears and mostly klobučari (casuals only following football when big games are on) crying about the ref all over the country, this is just perfect ending.
Says the guy who is Croat but supports England.
 

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It's ok. You can support whoever you want. Nothing against that. I can also support Argentina and England, in the era of lying cunt being idol and hero of the nation, and hope for some better times.
 

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I don't understand. You are referring to 2012 euro group stage or 2006 world cup quarter final? What do you mean by "past through ukraine"?

Italy has 4 world cups and 2 european championships. No referees needed. Croatia played like shit. Italy played better, after playing like crap against spain they needed to perform better last night and they did. To say they cheated is just dishonest. Croatia did not deserve to be the 2nd place team after their terrible performances.

I think the final standings are indicative of the group, spain is the strongest and italy is ok, not great, but any Italy fan/Italian could of told you this and tbh We all expected to finish at least 2nd, 1st would have been a pipe dream for us at this point, the team needs time to see what spalletti can do(not that I like him).

Italy's had to deal with bad referring too. Or maybe you conveniently forgot 2002 world cup vs south korea or the 2014 suarez t-rex incident where the ref essentially allowed suarez to eat some of chiellini.
I was reffering to last qualifiers match vs Ukraine. Clear penalty in 93 minute on Mudryk, there was no Var intervention too?! Gravina is Uefa VP, Colina is one of the big boys too. They are protected in matches vs teams like Ukraine or Croatia. Did I rant vs refs in match against Albanija? Guess what, I didnt, cause refeere was doing his job. We had a bad tournament but thats not the reason to let go what happened yesterday in terms of officiating. Makiele is known for his scandalous decisions in numerous matches, so why is he still allowed to officiate matches in important tournament like Euro? He was clearly on the mission. He let Italian players to play dirty while he whistled every 50-50 challenge in their favor. 8 minutes of stoppage time for subs and one minute of Var intervention. If it was 6 minutes or 5 of stoppage how it should be we would be in last 16 right know. Of course I am fucking mad. Hungarian player was dead for 7 minutes and in the end it was a 10 minutes stoppage time. If it happened yesterday it would be 15 minutes minimum.
 

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It's ok. You can support whoever you want. Nothing against that. I can also support Argentina and England, in the era of lying cunt being idol and hero of the nation, and hope for some better times.
You are talking about lying cunts? You who support England? Are you fucking serious?? England players who are famous for being drug addicts, wife cheaters and rapists? Team that represents country famous for most killings, rapes more than any other country in history of mankind? Ti si žešći sprd brate.
 

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You are talking about lying cunts? You who support England? Are you fucking serious?? England players who are famous for being drug addicts, wife cheaters and rapists? Team that represents country famous for most killings, rapes more than any other country in history of mankind? Ti si žešći sprd brate.
And how that exactly concerns me in this case? I'm not born in Stevenege. Did any of them helped Croatian criminal with stealing our money from our club (citizens association and not private club) and then lyied about that on the court when evidence were obvious? Yeah,I don't think so. Only lying cunt did that.

Also you are being way too serious. What does some stuff from 50+ years ago have to do with this group of players? Exactly. Nothing.
 
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And how that exactly concerns me in this case? I'm not born in Stevenege. Did any of them helped Croatian criminal with stealing our money from our club (citizens association and not private club) and then lyied about that on the court when evidence were obvious? Yeah,I don't think so. Only lying cunt did that.

Also you are being way too serious. What does some stuff from 50+ years ago have to do with this group of players? Exactly. Nothing.
Do you have any proof that Modrić helped criminals? Do you have court sentences? You have nothing.
 

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Ahh yes a ref that gives Croatia a penalty is clearly in the pocket of big bad UEFA…. Seriously the reason there where given many FK to Italy is simply because Croatia played dirty and went over the line in several cases… Yes the ref lost control which likely impacted it as well.. but let’s not make Croatia into something innocent.

Before I’m accused of being pro Italy let me remind that both countries are my favourite European countries and I visited both multiple times, so I’m rather neutral and would love to see both shine but really both where equally bad, so it’s impossible saying which of them deserves to go through because neither played well.

I even cheer on them when they meat my own country 😂, that I couldn’t care any less about
 

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"Ex refeere and ref expert Mateo Beusan said:

"First of all, the penalty is a very clear situation for us, purely and simply another confirmation that VAR creates fairness in football", Beusan praised VAR technology and referred to yellow cards and the referee's criteria. “Furthermore, all reprimands were properly issued. But there are two questions. During the game, there were fouls and pushing with two hands on both sides, which the referee awarded very easily for the Italians, but not for us. It's just that referee Makkelie didn't have objective criteria and it has to be said, it was easier for the Italians to make fouls," Beusan commented on the Dutch referee's criteria in yesterday's match.

The compensation was too long
"Oko sokolovo"(something like Moviola in Italy) then looked back at the moment that many consider crucial for the Vatreni falling out of the championship, which is the referee's compensation of eight minutes.

"I would like someone to measure why and where the time compensation came from as much as eight minutes!? In the second half, there was only a short interruption due to Josip Stanišić, he was waited for, it was due to cramps, no longer than a minute. He also watched VAR. Substitutions are for half a minute and the penalty is an additional minute. But all of that can't be eight minutes!? I would like someone to measure all of this and explain to me where even eight minutes of extra time came from," Beusan commented.
 

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Netherlands vs. France, the game with the longest VAR check, had 5 minutes.Hungary vs. Scotland, where a player collapsed, had 10 minutes.Yet somehow this game gets 8 minutes.
 

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Yea all I see was Croatia players were playing dirty to waste time which helped in adding the extra time.
What??

The Italians wasted time from the 10th minute until the goal and then they were rewarded with eight minutes. Congratulations to the Makiele and Italia.
 

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"Dutch referee Danny Makkelie did not commit "armed robbery" in the match between Croatia and Italy. The world media does not even deal with it, there was nothing controversial for them. They noted that he missed a clean penalty for Croatia, but VAR corrected it, so there is no need for discussion. They also underlined Dalić's remark that "it is not clear where even eight minutes of extra time came from", but they did not analyze it. To them, it's all just a few minutes more or less...
However, anyone who watched the game carefully and knows anything about refereeing could quickly see how Danny Makkelie was trying to target the Italian mill. The Italians made several visible fouls that "he didn't see" , but other way - he awarded in favor of Italy everything. And everything that was marginal went to the side of the Azzurro.

It will be difficult for Makkelie to explain why he did not immediately play the penalty for Croatia, but needed the help of VAR. He was close to a situation, well placed, and the hand play was clearly visible even in the broadcast. We won't talk about his "body language" now, we're not that expert, but at the time we already deeply suspected that he was on an obvious mission to help the Azzurri.

All our doubts were confirmed by the Dutchman at the end of the 90th minute when he showed an inexplicable eight minutes of stoppage time. During the continuation, player substitutions were made six times, which brings three minutes of injury time. The VAR check for the penalty did not last long, no more than two minutes. As a rule, this means five minutes of compensation. We would accept six minutes as normal, because there were some small "thefts" of time. Seven minutes of stoppage time was already unacceptable, and eight - beyond any referee's logic.

Danny Makkelie is a police inspector, and is reputed to be a great favorite of Pierluigi Collina, the head of world referees. Did Collina somehow delegate Makkelie for the match with Croatia? Formally, it certainly isn't (the head of European referees is Robert Rosetti - another Italian), but Makkelie is known as "a man of Collina's confidence".

You will remember how Makkelie "invented" the decisive penalty after contact between Sterling and Jenssen in extra time of the semi-final match of Euro 2021, played between England and Denmark. Many English people were embarrassed at the time, and Makkelie was presented to the media as a "policeman on duty". UEFA duly stood behind his decision.

That semi-final was played at Wembley, the whole of England was on their feet, and we know how powerful and influential the English are. Many wanted to see them in the Euro final. We don't believe that this time it was so important to UEFA that Italy secure the round of 16, so we'll just stick to the fact that Collina is Italian and that it must have been very important to him...

The world also remembers him well as the referee who overlooked an obvious goal by Cristiano Ronaldo in the match between Serbia and Portugal, played in the qualifiers for the WC 2022. Even then, the referee's compensation was involved, and the result was 2:2. Out of anger, Ronaldo threw the captain's armband and left the field. Makkelie was not on assignment in Belgrade, he just had a huge oversight. Even so, he refereed in Qatar, UEFA always understands his "sins".

Makkelie - to be fair - wasn't the one who ended up giving the Italians the point with which they directly secured the round of 16 of the Euros. The Italians earned that point with a clear goal, after they pressed Croatia hard in the last half hour of the game. Makkelie didn't score that goal.

However, the Dutchman did everything he could to give the Italians a chance to score in the 98th minute. He was dishonest, he was biased, they wouldn't say impressed by the Italians. He was simply on a mission, which he did as he imagined. Just like an experienced police inspector. Everything is clear to you, but when you draw the line, it will be difficult for you to attach anything serious to the "forcer"...

So Rosetti is head of European refeeres.. Well, I rest my case.
 

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Will you keep this ranting in this topic? I'm fine with that, if it stays here.
 
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