Hakan Çalhanoğlu

[GoldenRetriever]

Just realized his shot took a big deflection before hitting the post

Cant even take a clean shot

 

[GoldenRetriever]

The problem is Formation, Hakan doesn't fit 3-5-2 formation, he was best deployed at 4-2-3-1 Pioli formation which is deploy as AM.
This guy have same problem like Eriksen when he coming from Tottenham, from attacking to more centrally, which is had responsibility to defense and playmaking.

Hakan most dangerous weapon is long range shooting and set pieces, which is very hard when we deploy 3-5-2 formation.
This formation is very depended to our 2 striker and 2 wingbacks and defensive approach from midfield.

I wont throw him critics after 8 games, but if in 8 months he can't addapt, i will sell him to other teams because we need more impactfull player.

The perfect example good midfielder at 3-5-2 formation is SMS at Lazio, and the best potential player is Kessie.

Maybe we could get kessie on a free??

 

[Candreva Crosses]

Maybe we could get kessie on a free??

So we can realise that Kessie also is shit just as Hakan?

 

[magnesium]

People should understand he is bang average midfielder with Godlike set pieces and decent shooting.
He is fucking average like another midfielder if you looks his movement.

Compare him with Barella and Brozovic in our midfiled just like throw BMW with Lamborghini and Ferrari.
Vidal on other hand is Leopard Tank for me, he can tackling, playmaking, and defending.

Vidal >>>>>>>> Kebab >> Vecino >> Lord Gags

Even Gagliardinho looks very good at Pioli system right?
At the moment we can't hope to Sensi and Eriksen.

 

[BasedGodPunk]

I wouldn't say Gagliardini has looked good anywhere at any time. At his best at atalanta he seemed like a remarcably average defensive midfielder who had a decent physique.

 

[Batman]

The man has performed no worse than eriksen, yet eriksen was given 18 months. Inter fans want hakan gone after 8 games.

Uhm… because Eriksen is a class player before he came to Inter.

But I dont know why are you bringing Eriksen here, pointless comparison.

 

[Harpsabu]

Uhm… because Eriksen is a class player before he came to Inter.

But I dont know why are you bringing Eriksen here, pointless comparison.

Because eriksen got a free pass for 18 months. Hakan hasn't had 8 games yet. I understand what eriksen was before, but let's judge on their time at inter

 

[Pajo]

The thing for Hakan vs. Eriksen is simple - Eriksen got more excuses because he was already proven boss player, at times one of top midfielders in the world (take 2015-2018). And he was boss before that too, but those 3-4 years he was one of the top midfielders in the world.

As for Hakan... Well, this is the best we can get from him. Inconsistency is his middle name throughout his entire career. Will have a boss game here and there, be crap and invisible in the next 5. Will have decent numbers on paper (goals + assists) but that won't show the whole story as he'd be useless on the pitch more than half of the time.

That is why Hakan gets bashed and Eriksen was given more excuses and time. Not to mention that even at his worst, Eriksen was more important to have on the pitch than Hakan is.

 

[CafeCordoba]

I wouldn't call Hakan useless by any means. Except when he keeps doing mispasses all over the place (that hasn't happened in every game at all btw). But his salary doesn't reflect the ouput, that's the issue. Because his salary restricts our management to buy a starter.

When talking players we have at the moment (so we forget salaries since euros don't play, players in the squad play), I rather use Calhanoglu than Gagliardini for instance as a starter. Or Vecino.

 

[magnesium]

It's happen to everyone. Not only Hakan.
Playing with new formation, new coach, new teammates, and new position.

Nothing worry about him, just let Inzaghi use him wisely.
He can start against Empoli, Genoa, or Cagliari.
At least he had something usefull, which is set pieces and long shoot.

One more about him, he not injury prone.

Unlike Gagliardinho.

We got him free, and the reason is to replace Eriksen. The only available good midfielder for free is him.
Beggar can't choose.
If we had 50m budget like last season, maybe we can go buy SMS or better midfielder than Hakan.

 

[PHM1605]

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We got him free, and the reason is to replace Eriksen. The only available good midfielder for free is him.
Beggar can't choose.
If we had 50m budget like last season, maybe we can go buy SMS or better midfielder than Hakan.

Agree with the rest, but not this. Free transfer fee but his salary is double that of "normal" players.

10m+ amortization is equivalent to 20m transfer fee + 6m gross or such. Any other Serie A teams bought their midfielders for cheaper last Mercato, Anguissa, Koopmeiners, Torreira from top of my head for a fraction. Midfielders are everywhere and cheap.

We didn't have a cash flow issue anymore after selling Hakimi and Lukaku. We could choose. We just chose the wrong one. Should not have broken the salary cap for a bang-average player.

 

[brakbrak]

Agree with the rest, but not this. Free transfer fee but his salary is double that of "normal" players.

10m+ amortization is equivalent to 20m transfer fee + 6m gross or such. Any other Serie A teams bought their midfielders for cheaper last Mercato, Anguissa, Koopmeiners, Torreira from top of my head for a fraction. Midfielders are everywhere and cheap.

We didn't have a cash flow issue anymore after selling Hakimi and Lukaku. We could choose. We just chose the wrong one. Should not have broken the salary cap for a bang-average player.

Chalhanoglu was signed before selling Hakimi and Lukaku. So no, we couldn't choose.

But I agree with you with all this bullshit giving out ridiculously high salary to normal players because there's no transfer fee. Other players are not gonna give a fuck about the transfer free, nor should they. But it is what it is.

 

[Il Drago]

Agree with the rest, but not this. Free transfer fee but his salary is double that of "normal" players.

10m+ amortization is equivalent to 20m transfer fee + 6m gross or such. Any other Serie A teams bought their midfielders for cheaper last Mercato, Anguissa, Koopmeiners, Torreira from top of my head for a fraction. Midfielders are everywhere and cheap.

We didn't have a cash flow issue anymore after selling Hakimi and Lukaku. We could choose. We just chose the wrong one. Should not have broken the salary cap for a bang-average player.

In hindsight, signing Hakan was the wrong move. But when we signed Hakan we hadn't sold anyone. The management were told from the ownership they needed to make at least 70m from sales. The initial plan was selling Hakimi, keep the rest of the squad and finding Hakimi replacement with zero budget. After the incident with Eriksen, we also had to find his replacement with zero budget. So at the time we had two choices: either take a risk hoping a quality creative midfielder will become available on a free loan with option to buy or sign Hakan, the only available AM on the free agency. In a summer full of uncertainties they decided to go for the safe choice.

Lukaku sale was unexpected for the management and when it happened we had no squad spots left in midfield.

 

[PHM1605]

Chalhanoglu was signed before selling Hakimi and Lukaku. So no, we couldn't choose.

But I agree with you with all this bullshit giving out ridiculously high salary to normal players because there's no transfer fee. Other players are not gonna give a fuck about the transfer free, nor should they. But it is what it is.

Why did we have to rush to sign him too much? We should have known there were 10000 other midfielders on the market. (just a side note, Anguissa & Torreira were also free - loan+option)

Either that; or the mistake was that we overrated Hakan. Expected a starter then ended up with inferior to Gags & Vecino in the pecking order. Well, we have more than enough backups. We could choose to sign no one and wait for a starter-worthy.

 

[PHM1605]

In hindsight, signing Hakan was the wrong move. But when we signed Hakan we hadn't sold anyone. The management were told from the ownership they needed to make at least 70m from sales. The initial plan was selling Hakimi, keep the rest of the squad and finding Hakimi replacement with zero budget. After the incident with Eriksen, we also had to find his replacement with zero budget. So at the time we had two choices: either take a risk hoping a quality creative midfielder will become available on a free loan with option to buy or sign Hakan, the only available AM on the free agency. In a summer full of uncertainties they decided to go for the safe choice.

Lukaku sale was unexpected for the management and when it happened we had no squad spots left in midfield.

We don’t have to. We already had FOUR replacements in our current squad (Vidal, Vecino, Gags, Sensi). Yeah injury-prone, mediocre and such, but even Serie A long-time followers like you and me can see Hakan wasn’t superior to them. I would say it was “grass is greener on the other side” mistake.

You guys always claimed we sign Hakan because he was free. Why don’t you think differently, we chose him because we rated him the highest among the other candidates? Inzaghi also admitted that in his previous interview. We chose Hakan as we expected him to be similar to Alberto, which is obviously wrong.

 

[Bluenine]

Agree with the rest, but not this. Free transfer fee but his salary is double that of "normal" players.

10m+ amortization is equivalent to 20m transfer fee + 6m gross or such. Any other Serie A teams bought their midfielders for cheaper last Mercato, Anguissa, Koopmeiners, Torreira from top of my head for a fraction. Midfielders are everywhere and cheap.

We didn't have a cash flow issue anymore after selling Hakimi and Lukaku. We could choose. We just chose the wrong one. Should not have broken the salary cap for a bang-average player.

I made the same argument when we were signing Hakan. For that annual cost, we could get a more suitable player. "Free" transfer makes this sound like a cheap deal, it isn't.

My guess is that Inzaghi requested for Hakan (and Correa). Which worries me, a big change from the type of players requested by our previous manager. Forget the budget for the moment - Conte wanted players like Lukaku, Barella, Sanchez, Vidal, etc. Players who give their 100% on the pitch, work hard and press. Inzaghi went for players like Hakan and Correa, who are talented but inconsistent, largely due to suspect focus/work rate, they become invisible in a game sometimes. They were like this at their previous clubs too, so its not a surprise at all.

I had no problem with Marotta entertaining Conte's requests - you just knew he will get the best out of them. Maybe Marotta should have ignored Inzaghi's requests, coz they look like a big waste of our very limited funds. Like you said, there were good deals to be done within our budget.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Anguissa, Koopmeiners and Torreira are no one like Hakan. Inzaghi wanted more offensive player, those players are defensive midfielders.

Which good deals where there available for a similar players as Calhanoglu? He's Serie A veteran by now, knows the league, even knows the city so zero time needed to accommodate or anything like that. You need to remember we hadn't seen him play at Inter so you guys need to remove the memories of his Inter performances out. Which players were available?

I'm saying at the time of the signing it made sense to sign Calhanoglu. Now afterwards it doesn't look good as he hasn't been good, too inconsistent. Il Drago explained it perfectly why the timing is key in this signing. We lost Eriksen unexpectedly and we needed to act fast as Inzaghi needed his offensive minded midfielder when the preseason was about to begin.

 

[Harpsabu]

Anguissa, Koopmeiners and Torreira are no one like Hakan. Inzaghi wanted more offensive player, those players are defensive midfielders.

Which good deals where there available for a similar players as Calhanoglu? He's Serie A veteran by now, knows the league, even knows the city so zero time needed to accommodate or anything like that. You need to remember we hadn't seen him play at Inter so you guys need to remove the memories of his Inter performances out. Which players were available?

I'm saying at the time of the signing it made sense to sign Calhanoglu. Now afterwards it doesn't look good as he hasn't been good, too inconsistent. Il Drago explained it perfectly why the timing is key in this signing. We lost Eriksen unexpectedly and we needed to act fast as Inzaghi needed his offensive minded midfielder when the preseason was about to begin.

In hindsight not singing him or correa and just getting Luis Alberto would have been good, but at the time that was impossible.

 

[PHM1605]

Anguissa, Koopmeiners and Torreira are no one like Hakan. Inzaghi wanted more offensive player, those players are defensive midfielders.

Which good deals where there available for a similar players as Calhanoglu? He's Serie A veteran by now, knows the league, even knows the city so zero time needed to accommodate or anything like that. You need to remember we hadn't seen him play at Inter so you guys need to remove the memories of his Inter performances out. Which players were available?

I'm saying at the time of the signing it made sense to sign Calhanoglu. Now afterwards it doesn't look good as he hasn't been good, too inconsistent. Il Drago explained it perfectly why the timing is key in this signing. We lost Eriksen unexpectedly and we needed to act fast as Inzaghi needed his offensive minded midfielder when the preseason was about to begin.

Why do we need a Hakan-like player in the first place if he is not good enough to start and a DM benches him eventually? "Remove the memories of his Inter performances out"... he is not an unknown. I have been criticizing him (and the whole mediocre Milan midfield) way before he joined here.

Pjanic and Praet were free, too. But I doubt those names (including the 3 above) were even in our shortlist at that time. I would say, our scout team outside Italy was just too lazy and did terrible job, if any. Not only with midfield, but also with RWB and striker we were linked to a ridiculously small & terrible pool of choices. As if they were just scrolling the recent squads of Serie A teams and picking the longest sticks.

Ofc, Hakan was the only feasible target if you looked at it that way. But he should not be the only, had we looked broader.

 

[Bluenine]

Which good deals where there available for a similar players as Calhanoglu? He's Serie A veteran by now, knows the league, even knows the city so zero time needed to accommodate or anything like that. You need to remember we hadn't seen him play at Inter so you guys need to remove the memories of his Inter performances out. Which players were available?

I'm saying at the time of the signing it made sense to sign Calhanoglu. Now afterwards it doesn't look good as he hasn't been good, too inconsistent. Il Drago explained it perfectly why the timing is key in this signing. We lost Eriksen unexpectedly and we needed to act fast as Inzaghi needed his offensive minded midfielder when the preseason was about to begin.

We had seen his Milan performances, and he was always inconsistent and pretty much like he has been so far for Inter. I had made this same argument when we were signing him, so his Inter performances haven't changed my view at all. They have only confirmed what I saw of Hakan during his 4 years at Milan - he has actually been a predictable signing. I don't understand why some people think Hakan is "flopping at Inter" - he was pretty much like this at Milan, specially performance wise but even stats wise. Hakan has 1 goal and 3 assists from 8 games for Inter. If you extrapolate that to 32 games, he will have 4 goals and 12 assists. Last season at Milan, Hakan had 4 goals and 10 assists in 33 games. A few good games and a whole lot of crap, invisible performances. In 4 seasons at Milan, Hakan has averaged 5 goals and 9 assists from 34 games per season, and he is on track so far for Inter. He has always been consistently inconsistent. Why did you expect any different at Inter?

This is not a question of form or new team or new position. This is a question of quality and consistency and level. It made exactly as much sense signing Hakan at that time as it does now. Very little. Just coz you need a attack minded midfielder does not mean it makes sense to sign an average one who is available.