Inter Jerseys

[Universe]

Don't they all look much better?

Honestly, no.

Anyway, the font..

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As expected, the back of the shirt looks really messy with a player name & number.

It might sound dumb, but in this regard, it's important to view text, letters and numbers as merely shapes rather than a meaningful symbol. For example, "1" isn't a one, it's just a straight line. A "0" isn't a zero, it's a circle/oval.

Creating "shapes" that look nice, and paying close attention to the angles and the ratios that these shapes create, is the base fundamental of creating a functional and visually appealing font. Now look at our shirt.. The shapes created by the letters, numbers, and the spaces between them, is completely chaotic. Why? Because they're laid over a zig-zag background. I suspect the choice of font for the numbers is designed to try offset this, but I'd argue they've failed in that regard. See here:

Examine the areas I've circled in red. See all these awkward little bits of blue and black that stick out due to the player names and numbers in white? They contribute to an untidy feel.

Look at the lines I've marked in green. See how the angles created are completely different to, and work against, those of the diagonal zig-zag lines? These things also contribute to that untidiness.

These things matter. And you don't encounter these problems anywhere near as badly with plain vertical (or horizontal) stripes (for obvious reasons.) With the vertical stripes, you only have ONE angle (a 180° angle i.e. a straight line) which "goes against" the angles and curves of the lettering. However on our new shirt, we have chaotic angles and distracting shapes being created absolutely everywhere. I think it's very unappealing and unpleasant.

IMO, the solutions to this are:

1) a very square-ish font. That way you only have 90° angles created by the font, and you can minimize some of the weird shapes being created by the clash of font vs background

2) use a full black area on the back of the shirt. I've personally wanted this for a long time. See here:

3) or the best option yet.. don't use fucking zig-zags on the shirt

 

[I4E]

Honestly, no.

Anyway, the font..

___________________________________________________________________________________________

As expected, the back of the shirt looks really messy with a player name & number.

It might sound dumb, but in this regard, it's important to view text, letters and numbers as merely shapes rather than a meaningful symbol. For example, "1" isn't a one, it's just a straight line. A "0" isn't a zero, it's a circle/oval.

Creating "shapes" that look nice, and paying close attention to the angles and the ratios that these shapes create, is the base fundamental of creating a functional and visually appealing font. Now look at our shirt.. The shapes created by the letters, numbers, and the spaces between them, is completely chaotic. Why? Because they're laid over a zig-zag background. I suspect the choice of font for the numbers is designed to try offset this, but I'd argue they've failed in that regard. See here:

Examine the areas I've circled in red. See all these awkward little bits of blue and black that stick out due to the player names and numbers in white? They contribute to an untidy feel.

Look at the lines I've marked in green. See how the angles created are completely different to, and work against, those of the diagonal zig-zag lines? These things also contribute to that untidiness.

These things matter. And you don't encounter these problems anywhere near as badly with plain vertical (or horizontal) stripes (for obvious reasons.) With the vertical stripes, you only have ONE angle (a 180° angle i.e. a straight line) which "goes against" the angles and curves of the lettering. In this shirt, on the other hand, we have chaotic and distracting angles being created everywhere and I think it's very unappealing.

IMO, the solutions to this are:

1) a very square-ish font. That way you only have 90° angles created by the font, and you can minimize some of the weird shapes being created by the clash of font vs background

2) use a full black area on the back of the shirt. I've personally wanted this for a long time. See here:

3) or the best option yet.. don't use fucking zig-zags on the shirt

Dammit Uni. Send Inter a strongly worded email. This outrage is unacceptable.

 

[dax21]

Anyway, the font..

My problem with fonts is that they are neither stylistically fitting nor original.
I hate the current third kit font that looks like it's ripped off a generic western movie poster.
This new font looks like generic stretched Century Gothic (the Bioshock font), aka as if its stolen off a 1920s movie poster. That narrow, tall style of lettering. It's awful. With a hint of MS Comic Sans cheesy roundness to the curves.

Fonts are a very understated problem in these past 3 years. The only one I really liked was the one from the marble third kit. It was simple and elegant.

 

[thatdude]

I just can’t wait till the Driver logo is off the back of the shirt.

 

[Howl]

Wow.. Not only is the shirt horrendous but the font is even worse

 

[William]

If nobody buys this then surely Nike will stop this kind of shit when the see the number of sold shirts stat??

 

[Universe]

My problem with fonts is that they are neither stylistically fitting nor original.
I hate the current third kit font that looks like it's ripped off a generic western movie poster.
This new font looks like generic stretched Century Gothic (the Bioshock font), aka as if its stolen off a 1920s movie poster. That narrow, tall style of lettering. It's awful. With a hint of MS Comic Sans cheesy roundness to the curves.

Fonts are a very understated problem in these past 3 years. The only one I really liked was the one from the marble third kit. It was simple and elegant.

More or less agreed on all points. You're correct in saying our new font is very Art Deco. All the more reason it is stylistically incompatible with a zig zag theme.

I also really liked the marble kit font. I remember complaining in this thread that it should've been used on our home and away jerseys too.

As for this seasons 3rd kit, I know what you mean with the "western" feel. I really like the shirt numbers and I would've liked the players names to be in a similar font, but I don't mind it too much.

I just can’t wait till the Driver logo is off the back of the shirt.

The Driver logo is itself not great, but I'm not against having a secondary sponsor occupy the space where the Driver logo sits. Visually, it's not unbalanced. The problem is Pirelli don't pay us enough to be our main shirt sponsor, let alone have two logos on our shirt.

 

[CafeCordoba]

I almost grew not to hate the zig-zag but that fucking typeface (that's the correct term instead of font ) ruins it.

 

[diamen]

will still buy it with Hakimi on the back.

 

[alvaro]

Pretty fucking awful, here’s hoping we play many games with the 3rd kit. Away one looks like tablecloth from your grandparents home. Guess my new shirt with Tonali on it will have to wait.

 

[Universe]

I almost grew not to hate the zig-zag but that fucking typeface (that's the correct term instead of font ) ruins it.

I use "font" for the commonfolk


So as we all know, this season's current home jersey features these garish white collars and cuffs, not to mention that weird diagonal section in the center of the shirt. These things contribute to it creating a certain 'unfocus' if you will. Relax your eyes when you look at our current home shirt. When you refocus, your eyes are drawn to the white trims, to the diagonal section, to the weird way the stripes are laid out on the shoulder. It's a real mess.

The more I look at the zig-zag shirt, I find it to have a really nice color balance. Without the distractions of the white trims and the broken stripes, (and ignoring the zig-zags for a moment,) you focus more on the colors instead - and that shade of blue is very pleasant.

I find the zig-zag jersey to give me the exact same thoughts as last seasons jersey: they both have solid fundamentals and brilliant colors. However, they're both ruined by one completely unnecessary concept - that faded snakeskin pattern across the stomach of 18/19 and of course, the zig-zags for 20/21. Both had rubbish typefaces too, but that's secondary.

It's a shame that once again, we couldn't just go with simplicity instead of pursuing these obscure concepts which are unconvincingly executed.

If we didn't have that fucking chain-link fence pattern on last seasons jersey.. and if we just straightened out those zig-zags into stripes.. Honestly we'd have two truly excellent jerseys (typefaces not withstanding...)

In the 1% chance I have of buying the 20/21 jersey, it'll be the first jersey I ever buy without a player name and number on the back.. (for reasons mentioned)

Anyway, can't wait for the away jersey to be released :rollani:

 

[brehme1989]

Stop writing essays about our new tablecloth and vote in the damn Draft in the OT. Thanks.

 

[Howl]

Honestly i'm more gutted about the 'font' than I am the shit home and away jerseys. If we kept the third kit font that we had from this season or even last seasons grey one I would have been happy. Heck even the current one we have is alright compared to this abomination.

Just gotta hope they stick with the theme where the third kit has a different font that's much nicer.

 

[vitomins]

I just want to get this year's away shirt...how can they still be unavailable?!

 

[ElDuccio]

the design is interesting but in every jacket they always make this black "streak" in the middle which i really hate.

 

[Big Willy]

I like the font and the shirt. Guess I'm the only one

 

[Torontoyzy]

What's the difference in the fit and look between the stadium and vapor jerseys? Is it a big difference? If its not drastic, i'd prefer just getting the stadium.

 

[Delicate]

I wholeheartedly agree with aforesaid rants on the typeface of new kit, but this typeface will only be used in CL matches as I understand, because since 20-21 season all Serie A teams will use same typeface (a la EPL) which looks like this:

EDIT: Never mind. It looks like it is the same typeface like on our kit hence it is not designed by Nike or us but rather by Lega (or their design advisors) themselves.

 

[Howl]

No wonder why it looks shit, the league can't get anything right.

Do they think that by copying the EPL and making all the clubs wear the same typeface, that it's going to bring more revenue as well or something? That was one of the good things about the league which made it more unique when watching our matches with each club having their own designs on the fonts and their own captains armbands too.

 

[William]

The numbering looks fine, non offensive. I think we need to get over it and move on to more important things like back to hating our home kit.