Inter - Juventus (24 Oct 21) [1-1]

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Shit like this shows why you can never, ever, win a close race against Juventus. You can be so far ahead of them that they concentrate on fucking the ones closest to them on the table, but if you're a few points ahead they will come up with any bullshit they can, and they will pass you because they have a whole system behind them.

Yep.
 

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things like this always happen to us. if a 50-50 foul is committed by a rube player it will not be called a penalty. it is very clear from the history of referees and this very corrupt league. as interisti at least we can realize that cheating will happen. we have to fully support our coaches and players against a team that is full of manipulation. Dumfries does make unnecessary and ridiculous contact but pinning the whole blame on him is just as ridiculous. Rube did nothing during the second half. no significant threat. Inzaghi at least tried to keep the score and to be honest it wasn't wrong. we all criticize him for his poorly maintained defense but ironically we criticize him instead.
Totally this. Would this penalty have been given to us if roles were reversed? Not in a million years.
 

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Stefan de Vrij:

“We are very disappointed about the result. I was near the incident, there didn’t seem to be much in it, then VAR called and he gave it. Obviously, we are very disappointed at the way the game ended.

We worked really hard during the week on preventative marking, because we’ve conceded too many counter-attacks lately, so we had to do better. It means when we do lose the ball, we are set out better and it worked tonight, as we allowed very little on the break.”
 

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These contrarian points about penalty "there was a touch", "it was in the box"...:palm:
 

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Fuck my heart hurts. The worst part of watching our game late on Sundays is that the sleep for workday is ruined. The best part is that the game couldn't ruin my weekend since its already ended.
 

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Admittedly, I am dealing with alot of anger at the moment that is largely not Inter related. But this morning has not helped me. I cursed and yelled so badly when the penalty was given that my wife first called from our four year old daughter's bedroom to say how inappropriate my language was and then took her to the front of the house so I was out of earshot.

Earlier in this thread, a poster wrote that the real Inter fans are those in Australia who wake up early on Monday mornings and have to go to work when Inter have been denied results against Juventus in controversial circumstances (or words to that effect). I have endured decades of that shit and this morning is no exception.

I was of the understanding that for a penalty to be given, a player, in their totality, needs to be inside the penalty box. Perhaps I never understood the rule correctly but I did not think that if a player has a leg in the air that is inside the penalty box, that it would be called as a penalty. In this case, the player's right leg is well and truly planted outside the box. It was my understanding that the planted leg is what counts in this instance not the leg that is up in the air inside the box. At its worst, this should have been a free kick on the edge of the box.

The ref waving play on and the significant delay before the call was made really stand out. Not to mention the fact that we had 45 minutes to score a second and obviously preferred to try and manage our lead rather than kill off the game.

The other thought that comes to mind is why Inzaghi decided to bring on Dumfries in the first place. Watching him on the sideline, I felt the occssion was too big for him and he recognised that because it looked as though he was shitting in his shorts, despite trying to look calm. Personally, I feel Dumfries is so horribly out of his depth that it is embarrassing. He should go back to the Netherlands because kicking around like a horse with high legs on the edge of the penalty box is sheer stupidity. I also have to add that I have no idea why Darmian can not play 90 minutes. He was exemplary. Why didn't Inzaghi let him play out the game?

That's the thing about playing Juventus. It does not matter how well Inter are traveling in a game against them: rest assured there will always be a present from the officials that goes in Juventus' favor. It happens in every match.

After 30 years of supporting Inter against Juventus, I should be used to these kind of results and should not be surprised. Just once, it would be great if they could beat us fair and square without being given a "regalo".

The worst part about these kind of calls and results is that it undermines the integrity of Serie A. It is fucking disgusting and I wonder why I keep coming back to this shit.
 
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Against Samp we missed 2 easy goals, Against Lazio we could have easily made the 2-0 and close the game...and today it was similar. I just knew it that something will happen if we not score the second goal. This are all gifted points that could cost us the scudetto at the end if we don't wake up. Were better then Milan and Napoli. We just too Dumb(fries), that's the truth. There is potential to make much more...
 

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DAZN ex referee & referee expert Marelli: “There’s a contact between Dumfries and Alex Sandro, but Mariani clearly shows he’s seen the situation and that the game should proceed. This isn’t a clear and obvious error and this isn’t VAR. This is a moviola. VAR isn’t a moviola”

Marelli: “These penalties shouldn’t be given”
 

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I think all Inter coaches/ex-coaches except Pioli are sent off this week
 

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We can talk about the negatives till kingdom come. Lets also look at a few positives:

- The defence was better organised today. There is still some way to go - specially about giving the ball away in dangerous places - but today was much better than usual. We were quite effective in stopping Juve. I also liked the fact that Handa and the defenders went long to Dzeko often, and not always trying to pass the ball out of the defence (which is where we fucked up a few times before). Mixing it up will help in the long run.

- Juve are still 3 points behind us. Most of us before the game feared that Juve catch up with us today.

- Dzeko is still scoring. Sanchez, Perisic & Barella are still buzzing. There is some life left in this Inter. We got a few "easy" games coming up, if the players focus their anger correctly on those, we could play catch up.
 

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The ref blew 30 seconds early to end the first half right after there was a juve handball in the box. Would've been a soft and shitty penalty but those generally tend to be given in this fucking league - just see Dumfries.

Couldn't care less about the penalty incidents though. What a shit game in general.

On one hand, the big positive is that we contained juve with general safety and allowed them practically zero big chances. The negative is that we had very few clear-cut chances ourselves.

It's hard to say if our defense improved or whether juve were just absolutely mediocre in offense until Dybala came on. Probably a bit of both. But the fact that juve were so unimpressive is both an indication of where they're currently at, plus an indictment on our inability to exploit their situation. If there was ever a chance to take advantage of a weak juve side, this was it, and we bottled it.

That second half was the biggest takeaway of the game for me - and a complete joke in general.

95% of that fucking abominable second half was spent passing the ball backwards to Handanovic who then booted the ball to the halfway line. 95% of the time, this resulted in us turning over possession, and cheaply giving the ball back to juve to attack us again. Complete trash football.

I don't know if Inzaghi doesn't realise it yet but this team is fucking horrific on the counter and we have an absolute dearth of pace in the squad. It was purged from the team when we sold our only two fast players in Hakimi and Lukaku. Speed is a rudimentary asset to have, but one of the most important. There's a reason all the best teams in Europe are stacked with pacy players. Meanwhile we have precisely zero. Pathetic. Eriksen, and his ability to pick out a runner with a quick and accurate pass, is a big loss too.

Our organisation on the counter is dismal as well. We are the only team in existence that can go from a threatening 3v2 counter attack, to passing backwards to our goal keeper within a matter of seconds. That is simply unacceptable. When you pour forward like that, you have to get something out of it. You have to get a shot off.

Probably due to a mix of tactics and fatigue, Barella and Calhanoglu seemed to drop deep less frequently in the second half. That meant that we no longer went to 4 at the back when building attacks from Handanovic, which provided him fewer outlets, forcing the long balls.

While I'm certainly tempted, I won't extrapolate about our bigger, long-term targets based on this match. All I'll say is that we can't just waste 45 minutes of a match by playing on the counter when this team simply can not counter attack with any proficiency. It's like watching those relegation teams with semi-professional players trying to play it out from the back. The players simply lack requisite technical skill to execute such a strategy. Likewise we lack the personnel to play on the counter or to play long balls.
 
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Re the penalty - I understand that some are saying that it was legit. IMO it wasn't. Even if we assume that it happened technically in the box (even after watching replays, I am still not sure it did), it wasn't a "clear & obvious error" by the referee for VAR to intervene. The ref was right at the spot when the foul happened, he did not give a penalty. VAR can only intervene if the ref made a "clear & obvious error". This was anything but clear or obvious - even after watching the replays multiple times, I still am not sure whether it was a penalty or a free kick or a 50-50. Even if technically correct, it was a very harsh penalty - and its not supposed to be the role of VAR to intervene in such cases.

Someone needs to check this Marco Guida guy in the VAR room today, smells like calciopoli.
 
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What a typical Inter. That was one trash Juve side there, and we started playing well in the first half with a one goal advantage… but yeah let’s fuck it up, as always… we decide to be pussies because why not?

Players with shitty mentality combined with those who lacks anything related to football and those are actual pussies in human body. It’s a crime to feel ok with this draw.
 

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How some of you still have the dignity to whine about the ref’s CORRECT penalty decision. Just accept that Juve found their way to steal a point from us, and we were shit.
 

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Shit penalty...Should throw the fucking stupid Var into the dustbin.. So many shit, soft penalties..it's unbelievable..

Having said that why sit on a narrow 1 nil lead against a quality team..Why not seal the game.before that???..It's the reason Bayern,Madrid,Chelsea are in a different league and why we are here...
 

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Shit penalty...Should throw the fucking stupid Var into the dustbin.. So many shit, soft penalties..it's unbelievable..

Having said that why sit on a narrow 1 nil lead against a quality team..Why not seal the game.before that???..It's the reason Bayern,Madrid,Chelsea are in a different league and why we are here...
Just an FYI you know Chelsea lost to this Juventus team a few weeks ago right?
 

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Just an FYI you know Chelsea lost to this Juventus team a few weeks ago right?
Is your post meant to make us feel better?

Truth be told, I do not think there is anything worse in football than having your most bitter and hated rival on the ropes and not finishing the job. The only thing worse is the refereeing team making calls so Juventus can get something from the game and ensure they remain relevant and in the race for the Championship.

For me, that kind of result and lost opportunity is what epitomizes Inter.

Just as a side note, I was at the Italian Film Festival on Friday night. I was watching a movie in huge cinema where I was maybe one of ten people in attendance. The movie was about a guy with a blood disease, his navigating the disease and his interactions with family.

He needed chemo and when he was being shown around the hospital, the male nurse from Bari said that the room had 24hr surveillance in case he fell out of bed. The patient said "A bit like VAR!" To which the nurse responded "Goal Juve!"

I am guessing that no one else in the cinema understood that but it absolutely fucked me off and I stifled a boo that was rising in my throat. It made me so angry and now here we are and VAR very much denied us the three points.
 
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I'm really angry because we should have won last night. Gobbi came to Meazza just to not lose the game and somehow managed to do that. Penalty is debatable but I would not blame the referee for losing the points here. We got a similar soft penalty against Lazio.

We are having the same problem that Conte had for probably 3/4 of his period in Inter - gifting too many goals. We did not concede only on one occasion in Serie A - first game against Genoa. Our team is still good to win the Scudetto, just fix that please.
 
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