Inter - Milan (9 Feb 20) [4-2]

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Goes without saying it was a super game, especially for the neutrals. Funny that I find myself annoyed at the Eriksen free kick. Christ, that would've been movie-like if that had gone in.

Not to break up the celebratory mood but for me, this is the best point made:

If i had 15 Q&A with Conte i would ask him if this transformation from the team which used to press high and have a build up play when in control during the 1st phase of the season to a team who doesn't use the midfield at all was intentional or just due to missing Sensi.

The quality of football we are offering in the last 2 months is terrible.

I find this to be absolutely true.

From the start of the season until Sensi's injury in October, we played some incredible football. Key features to that success included a high press, control of possession with crisp and creative passing, fantastic verticality and precise movements. Overall, we always looked to be the protagonist and play our brand of football.

When Sensi was injured from October, we suffered to replicate that natural and attractive efficiency that we previously played with. Even in his absence though, we played something resembling that original style. But that seems all but gone now.

While missing Sensi has made a huge difference in how we play, it doesn't and shouldn't equate to a complete 180 degree shift in footballing philosophy. From approx November to now, our football has changed. In fact, it's completely unrecognisable.

Since November or December, we've been sitting very deep and we look to play long balls to the forwards and play on the counter. Alarmingly, we even do this at home and against shit teams. This is pure garbage because we absolutely have the quality to play most Serie A teams off the park if we kept the ball on the ground and played as we did at the start of the season.

There was this whole thing about our team gassing out in the 2nd halves of games. Perhaps this is some 4D tactic to conserve energy in the first half and make sure there's gas in the tank for the second half. But I don't buy that shit. Maybe it truly is purely down to losing Sensi/Asamoah.

Let's be honest, we can't defend for shit. We've seen time and time again that we are not a team or a tactic that can just bunker down and withstand consistent pressure. In fact, part of what made our defensive record so good (ON PAPER) is (or was) our ability to control the ball and hold possession. They can't fucken score if they don't have the ball.

They can however, score if you keep wasting possession with long balls, and giving up possession in the middle of the park, sitting so deep that opponents can encroach on your goal with complete impunity.

IMO, in addition to players playing out of position (Skriniar/Godin), there are system faults which should prevent us from playing like this.

We don't have skilled or pacy fullbacks, wingers or forwards, we don't have any kind of DM. There is always way too big gaps between defence and midfield, midfield and attack. Just look at the space Calhanoglu hit the post from today. Brozovic is our only screening player in that zone and he's not even a defensive player by nature.

Either way, it's not about aesthetics but I'm concerned with how significant this change is. The way we've regressed is horrendous. Super happy for the game as an experience but in footballing terms, we're yet to truly improve or even return to previous levels. As far as I'm concerned, we're still yet to break free of the December/January slump.
 

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Old Zlatan doesn't track back and penetrate empty spaces like lukaku does, he only utilizes his abundant experiences in positioning and decisions.

These make their midfielders and wingers work harder and track back a lot without decent backups from the bench. From that moment Conte knew they will run out of gas sooner..
 

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Horrendous first half. We should thank Milan for their inadequacy in front of the goal, otherwise it would have been 0-3 or 0-4 at the half time. Our defence is so shaky sometimes...

Fortunately, that volley went in and then we actually showed balls and won it. This comeback should be a huge boost for the boys. The Scudetto is a real possibility and we have to aim for it.
 

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They’ve had us in the first half, I’m not gonna lie
 

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Congrats on the derby win, good luck with the scudetto
 

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Thats why Conte wants Vidal but Eriksen is so pure to deny. The wingback things will be solved by roughly 2053.
 

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Best epics in history:

1. Inter-Milan 9.2.2020
2. Illiad
3. Odyssey
 

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Conte needs to get more players from EPL, even finished players like Sanchez can deliver here and there. Wasn't as good in the previous games (except for the penalty he got against Udinese). (Hopefully we don't buy Sanchez at the end of the season though)

Our midfield was in shambles most of the game. At least like 70% of the time. Brozović misplaced a few passes where I was like wtf. Skriniar too.

I was pissed off and wanted to stop watching the game, but I'm glad I didn't. Good thing Bro scored an early goal. Like they say, 2:0 is the hardest result to defend in football.
 

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Conte needs to get more players from EPL, even finished players like Sanchez can deliver here and there. (Hopefully we don't buy Sanchez at the end of the season)

Moses and Young have more impact in few weeks than our wingbacks combined last 9 years.

Not to mention Lukaku, his effect is crucial this season.

Eriksen has still to show what he knows.

Sanchez two last games was crucial for our wins.
 

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I would love to talk to somebody from the coaching structures of a team and ask them what is the reason for those transformations. Was Barcelona and BVB just a juice drained kind of a thing? But then, why every player who came onto that field looked exactly the same (slow, sluggish) when subbed in?

How about todays game? First half, our players looked like -3 speed comparing to milan. There is no formation that would make us look different. We were so slow, so defensive minded that it was out of this world. Milan player when 10 meters of free space in front of him, it was instant sprint towards our goal. Same for us? Slow pass to the defender.

I thought "ok, maybe our strategy is just to get to the second half with minimal losses to our batter and then go 120% in second half", but then when we came into 2nd half it looked exactly the same. If not for Brozo's goal out of nothing, it would still look the same most likely. After the goal, everything changed and after 2nd goal it was even bigger change.

Same players, same formation. Anybody has any clue? If it's all in players head, then who should we blame? Players or the coach? Mentality? Fitness coach?

If I had a 15 minutes Q&A with Conte that would be my question I would love to have answer to. How to explain this match and transformation. I'm sure there is a real answer, and it's not the jibberish that coaches tell the media after those kind of matches.

actually it's quite easy to explain the makeover. AC Milan was brilliant in first half, because of high intensity, they were pressing like wild dogs, they were everywhere on the pitch. Pressing, pressing, pressing, all the time. We had no idea how to deal with it. It was really impressive, but just a short term solution. There's no much teams in the world which could run like this all match. Maybe only Liverpool or Atalanta who are famous for their running abilities.
But it's still AC Milan. They were prepared to the season by Marco Giampaolo who doesn't care about pressing and intensity, he is focusing rather on tactic and technique. They were out of energy in the second half, that's why they had problems with even most basic elements of football play - like short passing or first touching of easy balls.
Pioli had good idea for this game - and it worked well after first half. His plan was to defend the lead, but fortunately we scored easily 2 goals and it was over, because Milan had no energy to make the change.

On the other side, there is a mentality aspect. Milan is a team with low confidence, Ibra helped them a lot, but it's still a team which has problems with pressure from their supporters. They are young team and they need time to be able to win such games.
 

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Conte needs to get more players from EPL, even finished players like Sanchez can deliver here and there. Wasn't as good in the previous games (except for the penalty he got against Udinese). (Hopefully we don't buy Sanchez at the end of the season though)

Our midfield was in shambles most of the game. At least like 70% of the time. Brozović misplaced a few passes where I was like wtf. Skriniar too.

I was pissed off and wanted to stop watching the game, but I'm glad I didn't. Good thing Bro scored an early goal. Like they say, 2:0 is the hardest result to defend in football.
yeah, no thanks. All the goals came from inters old guard except Lukaku. And I still look at Lukaku in that sort of milik mold of a player where he can get you golas playing in the right team, but when we come up against serious opposition he's not the one to be winning the game for the team. Conte can get the best out of over the hill mediocre players but next season he better start looking to buy some world class/young up coming star type of players if we are to compete on all 3 fronts and become one of the top 5 teams in the world again.
 

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Defense shit their pants having Padelli at GK.

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Defense shit their pants having Padelli at GK.
 

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Watched the game with a milanista friend :awwyeah:


10 seconds before the Brozovic goal he said "I don't think you will score tonight"
and then the pleasure began :trolldad:
 

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actually it's quite easy to explain the makeover. AC Milan was brilliant in first half, because of high intensity, they were pressing like wild dogs, they were everywhere on the pitch. Pressing, pressing, pressing, all the time. We had no idea how to deal with it. It was really impressive, but just a short term solution. There's no much teams in the world which could run like this all match. Maybe only Liverpool or Atalanta who are famous for their running abilities.
But it's still AC Milan. They were prepared to the season by Marco Giampaolo who doesn't care about pressing and intensity, he is focusing rather on tactic and technique. They were out of energy in the second half, that's why they had problems with even most basic elements of football play - like short passing or first touching of easy balls.
Pioli had good idea for this game - and it worked well after first half. His plan was to defend the lead, but fortunately we scored easily 2 goals and it was over, because Milan had no energy to make the change.

On the other side, there is a mentality aspect. Milan is a team with low confidence, Ibra helped them a lot, but it's still a team which has problems with pressure from their supporters. They are young team and they need time to be able to win such games.
Then why not just match their intensity and then outrun them in second half? It was not far off from like 0-4 or maybe 1-5 after first half. I don't think that's a good strategy. Since the stats show we outrun all serie a teams, why not match intensity in first half and then overrun them in second half? Maybe it would be 1:0 or 2:0 or 2:1 or something like that in the final outcome instead of 4 goals to 0 in one half, but we wouldn't look like on detox in firsf half vs milan players juiced from top to bottom. Second we clearly were a lot more movable and lively in second half comparing to first.
 

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I only wish Sanchez had got a goal, and that the Eriksen freekick had gone in. That would have made this a perfect game. If these two get back to anywhere close to their best, we could actually compete for the Scudetto!
 

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This has been the most explosive derby I have seen in years, even surpassed Whocardi's hattrick a few years back, and last year's 2-3 win. This is definitely an unforgettable one. The first half inter reminded me of the ridiculous interbells song, where it gave me flashes of the old inter we usually see after the winter break.

The second half was something else, you can feel the intent, the hunger and the collective fight from the team, this is Conte's Inter.
 

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What a game. What a comeback!!!

Fif vecino haters shown up again LOOL

Weekly occurance this
 
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