Inter - Verona (9 Nov 19) [2-1]

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Lukaku was well involved in building attacks. Icardi used to be invisible until he scores either a tap in or a header.

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it's good to see that this team can to turn games, even without Sanchez, Sensi and generelly not much players. We are playing every 3 days the same 11-13 players, expecting to turn a game against a defending team like Verona is not easy, specialy when it's still 0-1 after the first half. The team still made it, i almost forgot that they played this week, really impressive perfomance.

Getting 2-3 players in January would make things easier and would give us a chance to win something this year. Our defence keeps conceding, it's true. But our offensive is getting better and better. Today we would win easily 5-1 if we only learn to make profit of the chances. It was not diffrent against Barca for example. Im sure that this team can do much more, the potential is there.
 

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Barella was a few times unfocused - reason was of course that he is simply "empty". He invested his last drop wisely. Boooom :datass:
 

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A very good result, especially after conte 's negative comment..

The team respond well, and conte can learn to cool down and appreciate the team and the management better.

It was a sluggish 1st half, verona was very compact at the back...

Barella was really great, brozo is still irreplaceable even when he was not in his full form.. Lazaro has been great as well. Verona managed to control lukaku and Martinez, I say the strikers were descent.. They have played full game in dortmund and can serve the team fine last night

The team gave their hearts, sacrificed themselves and handle this kind of games very well.

We deserved the 2nd place, but we can improve ourselves to deal with big teams and keep the concentration 100%.

The team of 2009/2010 is based on fast counter attacking team.. We could also push smaller opponents. This year team is different, our mentality is attacking, we do much better upfront. Conte has built a successful attacking team probably very soon than expected. We has been great at pressing up high and playing the game in opponent's half. But when the opponent can push us in our back, we often still crumbled.. (farca, dortmund, sassuolo, and so on)

We gotta be able to manage to be more defensive when needed, against big teams we need to be able to press, fast counter or even parking the bus.

Let s hope we can beat juventus in home turf and beat farca in san siro. If not, I will just be happy that this team keep improving
 

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Certainly not a memorable performance, but we definitely deserved the win. As has often been the case lately, we played with more heart than brain. Which is understandable considering that Hellas switched to 6-3-1 as soon as they scored and that our repeated failures to find the breakthrough kept increasing the pressure on our players with every passing minute. Anyway, I've heard too many times the mantra about "the ruthless efficiency of the big team" (referred to a non-coloured, mafioso team from Turin*) to really care about the way we won. We scored two perfectly valid goals, could have scored a few more, Hellas did practically nothing besides the goal... now it's just time to dig in and push forward. Then we must do whatever we can to complete (strengthen) the roster in January and see if Conte can deliver.

Lazaro confirmed the good impressions he had left in his last two appearances. Once again, he put in a few good crosses and showed that he can beat his man regularly. I don't think he's particularly fast, but he's got a great acceleration (which vaguely reminds me of Maicon's). He should definitely be given a run of games after the international break. Biraghi had an average game. He put in a few interesting crosses in the first half, but slowly faded out of the game during the second half. Candreva partook in the final push. He didn't do anything worth mentioning, but then again he played out of position. D'Ambrosio is back. Good.

It's difficult to rate the performances of our defence. On one hand, one could say that we conceded (once again) on what was basically the only offensive foray Hellas attempted in the first 80 minutes of play. On the other hand, though, Hellas' ultra defensive setup allowed them to constantly join in the attack. As for the play that resulted in the penalty, Handanovic was silly in letting himself being fooled by Lazovic. He didn't intend to foul him, but still offered his body as the perfect diving board for the Serb. Also, I think de Vrij was at fault for not following his run. He should have been the one closing on him, not Handanovic. Skriniar looks definitely more at ease on the right and today was much more involved in our attacks. Bastoni's got balls. His lack of experience is evident at times, but all in all I'm very satisfied with his performances so far. Generally speaking, I believe that in time today's will become our base defensive line-up.

Two of our midfielders scored, whereas the third hit the crossbar. Great. That being said, Hellas parking the bus made it extremely difficult for them to find the right passing lanes, especially because we lack the sparkle that is often needed to find an opening when the spaces are tight. We could easily get the ball to their final third, but then their box was a clusterfuck of bodies. Anyway, I think Vecino did his usual game, that is to say disappearing for large parts of the game only to pop up at the end of a cross (happened three times today). Brozovic played a lot of balls, but couldn't find a way through Hellas' wall, while Barella fought the usual battle in midfield, misplacing several passes, but then coming up with that brilliant goal and winning us the game.

Our two strikers had an average game. They spared no effort, but their end product was just disappointing. Again, Hellas congested their box, making it hard to find an opening, but still they were too inaccurate (Lukaku) or hesitant (Lautaro) on several occasions. Good thing we won, because otherwise Lukaku's blunder would have haunted us for the next two weeks. Esposito didn't get particularly involved in his few minutes. Lastly, Salcedo was brilliant in botching every possible counterattack for Hellas. Well done, Eddie! :D



* HINT: it's not Torino
 

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Lukaku was well involved in building attacks. Icardi used to be invisible until he scores either a tap in or a header.

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That's nonsense. Icardi was great at bringing others in the game using 1-2s.
 

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That's nonsense. Icardi was great at bringing others in the game using 1-2s.

You mean the Handanovic long balls to Icardi who tries a first time one touch backheel flick to Perisic then complains that Perisic didn't read his bullshit play?

Icardi showed from time to time, some fantastic qualities other than his finishing and predatory movement. But these games were far too rare.

Even moreso than his hat trick vs Milan, IMO his best game remains the 2-1 victory over juve in 2016/17 under De Boer. Icardi roamed from his position, held up the ball, linked up with teammates and constantly bullied and fought defenders. But that was 1 game in 20 he played like that. The other 19 out of 20 times he barely left the box. He still scored of course, can't take that away from him. But you get my point that his tendency for build up play etc was incredibly low, even if the occasional quality was pretty good. Lukaku for example has plenty of poor days in terms of the quality of his buildup and team involvement. However, the natural inclination to play in such a way is much more consistent in Lukaku.

Lord knows how many times I wished and prayed Icardi would do that more regularly. But he straight up couldn't or wouldn't.
 

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That's nonsense. Icardi was great at bringing others in the game using 1-2s.
You cant compare Lukaku to Icardi interms of dribbling and holding the ball upfront. Icardi cant even get past one defender. Lukaku played very well last night and was almost always linking well with others in attacks.

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We’re 12 points ahead of Napoli.

What the fuck. I would have signed in blood for this in September.
 

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not yet at the half point of the season

we just need to grind results no matter what Napoli is doing
 

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Icardi is already history. Can we stop arguing about him?

Icardi is still an Inter player. :work:

And without talking about Lukaku: For me, people who say that Icardi offers nothing but goals, are wrong. He often tried to involve his teammates and would have collected much more assists but it wasn't his fault that players like Palacio or Candreva (who had a 0-goal-season) weren't able to score.

To Lukaku: He has the stats on his side and he finally uses his body like I expect that from him. I hope he will score much more goals and proof his doubters wrongs. But I can't help ... He always looks kinda clumsy to me.
 

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Icardi is still an Inter player. :work:

And without talking about Lukaku: For me, people who say that Icardi offers nothing but goals, are wrong. He often tried to involve his teammates and would have collected much more assists but it wasn't his fault that players like Palacio or Candreva (who had a 0-goal-season) weren't able to score.

To Lukaku: He has the stats on his side and he finally uses his body like I expect that from him. I hope he will score much more goals and proof his doubters wrongs. But I can't help ... He always looks kinda clumsy to me.

you mean "a little uncoordinated"....
 

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A : I prefer eating waffel to steak.
B : But Icardi is better in movement and I don't think Lukaku's strengths outweigh his weaknesses.
- continued with boring repetitive perpetual Lukaku vs Icardi comparison -

That is pretty much my impression whenever I visit FIF these days. Is everything must be related to Icardi vs Lukaku ?
 

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It hurts to see Radja Naingolan scoring a cracker vs Fiorentina

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A : I prefer eating waffel to steak.
B : But Icardi is better in movement and I don't think Lukaku's strengths outweigh his weaknesses.
- continued with boring repetitive perpetual Lukaku vs Icardi comparison -

That is pretty much my impression whenever I visit FIF these days. Is everything must be related to Icardi vs Lukaku ?

I am so sick of it. Maybe we should start an automatic 3 day ban for anyone who mentions Icardi this season?
 

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Icardi is still an Inter player. :work:

And without talking about Lukaku: For me, people who say that Icardi offers nothing but goals, are wrong. He often tried to involve his teammates and would have collected much more assists but it wasn't his fault that players like Palacio or Candreva (who had a 0-goal-season) weren't able to score.

You are fucking kidding me right. Palacio fucking carried us, he worked his ass off to take every chance as a lone striker, he worked his ass off to help Icardi. Calling him unable to score when he did so much better than Icardi would have in those grim seasons.

Funny how time makes you forget those who got you to this stage
 

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Silly goal to give away but Good result and we showed that we still have teeth
Perfect way to go into international breaks.

Conte done well considering lack of depth , anyone seriously looking pick negatives should get an additional hobby as you are clearly under stimulated.
 

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I thought I might write a few thoughts about this game.

Once again, I woke up at 3:20am to watch this one. Given recent kickoff times, I am starting to feel as tired as our players.

Our performance in this game was not spectacular. Perhaps what stood out more than anything is the lack of player sharpness which impacted our functionality and overall game. For long stretches of this game, I wondered if we were going to break through and score. The way Verona defended made things very difficult as they managed to repel our relentless waves of attack. One aspect to our game that I found particularly frustrating was the amount of corners we had and our inability to make something out of them. In the end, I feel that it was the collective will of the players and their determination that eventually got us over the line more than anything else.

First mention should go to Skriniar. He was impressive against Verona and imposed himself on the game. With every move and action, I felt that he was making a deliberate attempt to assert himself on the game and erase the memory of the mid-week loss against Dortmund. Skriniar dictated from the back. His game was anticipatory and commanding, characteristics that were much needed after our game midweek. I felt Bastoni was really good. For such a young player, he shows maturity and composure beyond his years. Under pressure, he is very cool headed and for a defender, he knows how to thread a pass. It is quite special to see. Defensively, he still needs some work but the potential and promise are there for Bastoni to become a regular starter in the years to come.

Credit should be given where credit is due: Vecino is not one of my favourite players. In games where he is absent, does not feature prominently and fails to score, it almost feels like we play with a man down. Having said that, I feel that it is unrealistic for supporters to expect him to score whenever he plays. I have metioned Vecino because I appreciate his efforts and am thankful for his goal. Without his contribution, we may not have won yesterday's game and i think it is important to note his sacrifice in that he most likely played the last 10 or so minutes with a concussion.

In the last few posts that I have made relating to our games, I have specifically referred to Barella and him being worth every euro. The guy is truly remarkable. His effort and hustle, his passing and ability to always be be involved in the game are great attributes. Most of what he does (with the exception of his ill-timed tackles) on the field yields results, whether he is hustling and chasing opponents, or making passes, he adds depth and meaning to our game. His goal was marvellous and there was an opportunity earlier in the game when he was advancing on goal but elected to pass rather than take a crack. That move came to nothing and at the time I thought that he was more than entitled to have taken a shot on goal. If Barella can add goals to his game, we are going to have one hell of a midfield player. I absolutely love watching him play.

I thought Lazaro positively impacted the game. I get the feeling that he takes to the field with the intent of deliberately proving his doubters wrong and he has a burst of speed that is otherwise unmatched in our squad. I feel his crossing is pretty good and the vision he had to pass across the box and pick out Lukaku (I think it was) was impressive, despite our failure to take advantage of the opportunity. I think it is important to say that both Martinez and Lukaku were a bit flat in this game. In relation to the former, he did not have the spark or confidence with which he played midweek and as much as it bothers me to say this, when I watch Lukaku and the the way he plays I find myself acknowledging many of the points that brehme1989 makes about his play. A few of our attacks broke down because of poor control and misplaced passing from Lukaku. There are also times when he simply fails to read and anticipate the game. The ball that went through his legs, the slightly over hit pass that was put through by Lazaro for him to run onto into the box and a pass that was sprayed out wide to the right are all examples of his poor anticipation and reading of the game. With Lukaku, it is almost like the the play actually has to be made before he follows rather than him anticipating the game, moving accordingly and then receiving the ball. It is frustrating because in games when an opponent parks the bus (often against smaller teams) or in the event of tight European fixtures against quality opponents, these shortcomings could really hurt us. I guess what I am trying to say is that not every game in which we are trailing is going to end with us fighting back to win. I have no intention of comparing Lukaku and Icardi and I understand that Conte demanded Lukuka at all costs but what fans, Conte and the club have to accept is that chances will inevitably be lost in games because of Lukaku's shortcomings which could have a bearing on final results. Having made that point, it is also important to note his contribution and the way he adds to our game but the question I have had since yesterday morning is: "How would we reacted and felt about Lukaku's performance if the result had gone against us and Verona had managed to draw or win?".

I do not have much else to add about the game against Verona. The only other thought I have is that Conte evidently learned from the game against Dortmund because when we took the lead against Verona, the team appeared to make a very deliberate and concerted effort to manage the remaining 12 minutes rather than trying to still play at full speed. It goes without saying that the result was important, especially given the way we lost midweek. However, the way in which the match was won was more important as the team worked together to grind out a result despite not being at their best. Lastly, it was good to see that Conte was complimentary and supportive of his players and their efforts following the result against Verona.
 
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