Inter's Financial Situation

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Wasn't there an agreement that Suning will take over Thohir's part over few years?

Thohir can go fuck himself. Didn't like him since the beginning and now he is showing his true colour. We should be suspicious when someone says his favourite Inter player includes Ventola.

Most of players he brought do not become an integral part of the team: Hernanes, Vidic, Podolski, Shaqiri, Osvaldo, M'vila, Montoya, Schelotto, Jovetic, Ljajic, Kondogbia, etc.

Forced out the fantastic four (JZ, Cambiasso, Samuel and Milito) at the same time.

Extended Mazzarri's contract just to fire him later.

He is the most responsible man who sold Kovacic to Real Madrid.
 

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Wasn't there an agreement that Suning will take over Thohir's part over few years?

Thohir can go fuck himself. Didn't like him since the beginning and now he is showing his true colour. We should be suspicious when someone says his favourite Inter player includes Ventola.

Most of players he brought do not become an integral part of the team: Hernanes, Vidic, Podolski, Shaqiri, Osvaldo, M'vila, Montoya, Schelotto, Jovetic, Ljajic, Kondogbia, etc.

Forced out the fantastic four (JZ, Cambiasso, Samuel and Milito) at the same time.

Extended Mazzarri's contract just to fire him later.

He is the most responsible man who sold Kovacic to Real Madrid.

Bro, forced out the fantastic four? People were giving Cambiasso so much shit. The only one I think should have continued was Zanetti, until this season where something fantastic have happend to Ambrosio we could have used Zanetti and save money for all the losers we've had on that position.
 

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Bro, forced out the fantastic four? People were giving Cambiasso so much shit. The only one I think should have continued was Zanetti, until this season where something fantastic have happend to Ambrosio we could have used Zanetti and save money for all the losers we've had on that position.

I said forced them out at the same time. I didn't mean to keep all four, but losing all 4 at the same time really hurt our team. We suddenly lost that leadership which we still can't recover until today. I would have kept Cambiasso for one or two more seasons, he wouldn't do as bad if he played as a cover more than a starter.

I still feel something wasn't right about Zanetti retirement. He wasn't emotional about it.
 

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I said forced them out at the same time. I didn't mean to keep all four, but losing all 4 at the same time really hurt our team. We suddenly lost that leadership which we still can't recover until today. I would have kept Cambiasso for one or two more seasons, he wouldn't do as bad if he played as a cover more than a starter.

I still feel something wasn't right about Zanetti retirement. He wasn't emotional about it.

My bad. I think getting rid of Milito was good though and I can remember people giving Cambiasso shit. But of course now later on its easy to predict who we should have kept. Personally getting rid of Sneijder and Zanetti made me mad at that moment and even now later on.
 

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My bad. I think getting rid of Milito was good though and I can remember people giving Cambiasso shit. But of course now later on its easy to predict who we should have kept. Personally getting rid of Sneijder and Zanetti made me mad at that moment and even now later on.

Sneijder. I've been thinking of him since Juve's game.

He is the exact type of player we need to complete the puzzle. Brozovic is nothing compared to Sneijder.
 

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Sneijder. I've been thinking of him since Juve's game.

He is the exact type of player we need to complete the puzzle. Brozovic is nothing compared to Sneijder.

or Banega?
 

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I think he was sold when Valero came, and then the bet was on Mario who cost us more, but he should have definitely stayed, a quality attacking player who came for free.
 

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I think he was sold when Valero came, and then the bet was on Mario who cost us more, but he should have definitely stayed, a quality attacking player who came for free.

Banega was sold even before our mercato. He was the first man sold to balance our books or some shitty reasons like that. it was something to do with ffp.
 

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we got like 9 mil for banega - it was an obvious move. He came on a free and we got 9 mil for him - that's pure capital gains baby
 

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Banega was sold even before our mercato. He was the first man sold to balance our books or some shitty reasons like that. it was something to do with ffp.

That is True, maybe there were plans to get Valero? or just Rely on Brozo and Mario. But yah maybe it had to do with ffp.
 

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Inter also issued bonds to refinance debts earlier this month, but the FT notes the band was “in demand, pricing at 4.875 per cent yield and trading up in the secondary market”.

The club itself noted it had received “around double the required subscriptions” on the bonds, which will yield 4.875 per cent in 2022.

Investors were reassured by the structuring of the bonds, which specifies debts must be serviced before any money can be spent on the club.

Nonetheless, the Nerazzurri’s bond will provide the club with an €82m cash injection.
 

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need a subscription to read and i dont have one, share?
 

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It is not simply on the pitch that Inter Milan has the upper hand over its longstanding rival AC Milan. The shifting fortunes of two of Italy’s best-known football clubs extends into the debt markets.

While Inter enjoyed strong demand last week for a debut bond, AC Milan is struggling to find investors willing to refinance more than €300m in high-interest loans it has from US hedge fund Elliott Management, best known for its 15-year battle with Argentina over its default.

The stakes are high for the Northern Italian city’s oldest football club. If it is not able to refinance its debt by October, the US hedge fund will seize control of AC Milan. A person close to the efforts to refinance AC Milan’s debt said he thought it was “50-50” whether the deal would succeed. Uefa, European football’s governing body, last week voiced its concerns over the club’s financial situation.

Football may be the most popular sport in the world but asset managers have typically been reluctant to lend to clubs due to the unpredictability of cash flows that can swing wildly based on their team’s performance. As such, Inter’s €300m deal was the first public bond sale from a European football club since Manchester United tapped the debt markets in 2010. The contrasting financial fortunes of the clubs also underline both the perils and opportunities of selling to overseas owners.

AC Milan took out the loan from Elliott this year, when little-known Chinese investor Li Yonghong bought the club for €740m from Silvio Berlusconi, the media mogul and former Italian prime minister. The limited information around Mr Li’s wealth is proving a barrier to AC Milan’s efforts to refinance its debt, according to people close to the deal. The New York Times reported last month that corporate records show that, on paper, someone else owns his mining empire — though the club said his control of the mining interests had been verified by lawyers and banks.

Elliott declined to comment.

Inter Milan is also now majority-owned by a Chinese investor, but in contrast its owner Suning is large publicly listed retail conglomerate.

The club was top of the table when it sold the bond last week, although it has since slipped to third place. One investor who bought the bond said that it was hard to see Inter defaulting on its debt if it remained in Italy’s top league. “The big doomsday scenario of relegation is just not credible,” he said, noting that the club had never been demoted to Italy’s second-tier Serie B.

The bond was issued out of a “MediaCo”, a separate entity that holds Inter’s media and sponsorship rights. The debt uses a “waterfall” payment structure that ensures money is used to service debt before it can be spent at the club.

As a result, Inter’s bond was in demand, pricing at 4.875 per cent yield and trading up in the secondary market.

“We’ve developed a structure that provides a very sound financial base for making sure debtholders are paid, while instilling discipline on the clubs,” said Greg Carey, head of sports finance at Goldman Sachs, which led the bond deal.

As well as repaying existing debts, Inter’s bond is providing the club with an €82m cash infusion.

“This transaction provides significant additional cash to Inter Milan’s balance sheet, allowing Inter to run a stable business without relying on owner support,” Mr Carey said.

AC Milan meanwhile is languishing at eighth place in Serie A, 16 points behind Inter, putting the club’s qualification for next year’s lucrative Champions League tournament in doubt.

That prospect is unlikely to help the club in its quest to refinance the loan. Mr Li’s Rossoneri Sport Lux investment vehicle carries €180m of the loan, which carries an interest rate north of 11 per cent, according to a person close to the deal. A further €128m sits at the club itself and has a 7.7 per cent interest rate, according to AC Milan’s most recent public accounts.

Mr Li has never missed an interest payment, however, and the loan is not in breach of any covenants, the person added. Marco Fassone, AC Milan’s managing director, last month said “I’m very optimistic about any potential refinancing of the club’s debt. We have a lot of time ahead ourselves.”

Whether AC Milan can claw back the gap to Inter in Serie A will absorb the club’s fans for the rest of the season. Narrowing the financial gap to its bitter rival is ultimately the bigger challenge.

Additional reporting by Rachel Sanderson
 

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Obviously that mentioned 82m€ cash injection is for running the club, not wholly for the transfer market.
 

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I just read UEFA banned us from having transfers in January... trying to find a reliable source.
 

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they forbade us to sign ramires from jiangsu suning afaik, cause they deemed it a workaround to ffp.
 

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The Inter 300 million bond, with a maturity of 2022, is booming on the market. As told by Il Sole 24 Ore, which certainly gives the next exit from the Nerazzurri company of Erick Thohir, ready to greet and to sell its 30%. "The issue of Inter is sold out, followed by the American Goldman Sachs as a bookrunner and the Italian Ubi Banca as co-manager as well as by the Latham Watkins studio. Now the next financial step for Suning will be to liquidate minority shareholder Erick Thohir, who still owns 30% of the Nerazzurri club.


On the bond side, this is the first case of selling a European football club's bond to the market after the one that allowed Manchester United to solve the debtor problems in 2010. The bid raised interest rates double compared to the request , despite the risk on the tightening of foreign investment from China. Among the underwriters there would be about thirty foreign and Italian funds: giants such as Norges Bank, but also Blackrock up to small institutions such as Ver Capital ", underlines the newspaper.


But why on the market is there so great trust in Inter society? Perhaps on the road to the reorganization undertaken by Suning, which seems to have given rise to investor confidence, convinced that investment in Inter is solid.
"Inter - explains fund manager Fabrizio Vettosi - has become well aware of cost control, perhaps also the result of a sensitivity and more international culture of the control group (Suning). In fact, Inter has given strategic priority to the cost cutting and from the point of view of the Capex has been extremely rational, not buying almost any football player and regenerating the current resources through a good change at the head of the Technical Area. The only thing that was done on the revenue side was greater involvement (which I hope will not be sterilized by UEFA for the Financial Fair Play) of the Suning Group through some naming and sponsorship initiatives ".

the bond deal seems good but it seems like a fucking gamble to me...if we don't invest in the right new players in the next mercato we might risk going to CL...and we can say bye bye to CL money again...Spallo isn't fucking Merlin...he is a competent coach but not a magician ffs
Santon,Nagatomo,Frog,Brozo...common...
 
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