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the latest rumour is that we will swap bonazzoli (half) in this deal too

i need that suicide thread please. that would be a fucking disaster.

Even Allievi guys now :lol:

Moratti sell the club please if you don't have the money (or the management skills to make the club produce enough cash to self sustain) to run the club anymore.
 

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itll be fine, we'll have a shit first team and a bunch of u-14s.
 

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Who is Bonazzolli? Why his half is so precious?
 

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He's our best young player. Myself and a few other primavera fans have identified him a few times.

he's the one who is like :godmode: and 2 years advanced, trained with the first team at the end of last season too, he's still only 15 i think?

he's a complete beast, and as i said, even out of all the good young players we have, a few of us think he's the best one. Italy U-17 regular and I think he'll debut before he hits 17/18.
 

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itll be fine, we'll have a shit first team and a bunch of u-14s.

I wouldn't be too sure. Next you'll hear they sold Merola.

The fact that they need to sell these guys says a lot about where they are financially.
 

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Well, it's still only 50%. If they promise to play him, then why not? We will get him back once he is 19-20 or something.
 

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Well, it's still only 50%. If they promise to play him, then why not? We will get him back once he is 19-20 or something.

Because its a sure-fire loss. We'll end up spending 10mil, 15 mil to get him back when he's 20. I dont mind loaning/co-owning youth players who need to develop and might/might not make it as a top player, but if theres anyone in our primavera I would bet 100% on, it is bonazzoli
 

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They seem to have embraced the 'youth are there to be sold' mantra this summer.

What will most likely happen to Bonazzoli if this true is that he'll be lost in the co-own shuttle. Good for him, he'll now make it.
 

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Because its a sure-fire loss. We'll end up spending 10mil, 15 mil to get him back when he's 20. I dont mind loaning/co-owning youth players who need to develop and might/might not make it as a top player, but if theres anyone in our primavera I would bet 100% on, it is bonazzoli

I haven't watched primavera last year much, but fuck, is he THAT good? I mean, you seem certain we will need to pay 15 mils for HALF of him when he will be 19. :D Isn't that pushing too far?
 

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Someone tell Moratti youth project doesn't mean selling youth.
 

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I haven't watched primavera last year much, but fuck, is he THAT good? I mean, you seem certain we will need to pay 15 mils for HALF of him when he will be 19. :D Isn't that pushing too far?

Well he hasn't played for our primavera yet so u haven't miss him :P .

Anyway the hype on this guy and actually the steps he has made are huge . Although he failed miserably with italy in the european a month ago. Probably it's the way italy organizes teamplay that made him look so bad. Anyway he and opoku are our 2 best talents in the entire youth system and it's fucking foolish to sell his half before he has made his primavera debut.
 

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They must be addicted to these co-owning deals. They just can't seem to make a deal without giving up half of someone and its fucking maddening. You just know these deals will bite them in the ass a few years down the road when the player starts developing nicely and they finally realize that they have fucked up hardcore. Why is it so hard to spend an extra couple millions to close out a deal instead of giving up half of a player and having to pay 4-5x that amount in the future to get back the other half? This isn't fucking negotiating, this is pure stupidity.
 

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honestly
it is of course a legitimate concern that some young player who hasnt even played for the primavera is worth that much

but at the same time, the stars of next year have to be born somewhere, and the fact that bonazzoli is a STAR player in the U-17 league and Italy U-17, AND only 15, says a lot.
 

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But come on. He hasn't even played in Primavera level, which is a boys' game. He has a fucking LONG ROAD ahead before he can be considered even a Serie A player, let alone some star player who we would have to pay ten million euros to get his half back. I mean, that's some serious exaggeration to predict a player's development at that age (what he is, under 16?).
 

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I dont disagree. But what is true is that yesteryear's beretti are this year's primavera.

Its not like he WONT make 18... its just a question of how good he will be when he does. And I think he will be among the best. He's doing things Balotelli didnt do in our youth level.. And if I had to bet on anyone on the primavera doing the next balotelli, it would be him. I think that feeling is true for a few of us too.
 

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A co ownership in this case is much better than an outright sale. I think the only negative would be that we get to keep that fuck face Silvestre and probably the initial rumored price. Apart from Palacio I wish we had one more experienced striker to carry these kids along, but Milito is injured and our priority signings haven't been made so I guess we're betting on them. Now that it's come to this, I wish both he and Icardi the best of luck.
 

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I don't know, I don't see that big a player in Bonnazoli's future. He's good and would be a solid pro tho. I'm still in the opinion our best talent is Taufer followed by Opoku, by the bits I've got to see of those 3 players (although granted not enough and as much as I'd like to due to the lack of availability to their games)

Although that doesn't change the fact giving up 50% of him right now would be silly regardless. He's still one of our most talented prospects in the academy, still very young and could develop. What kind of message is that to give 50% of one of your most talented academy prospects in such an early age, as minor makeweight in a deal?
 

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I would forbid by law selling/trading/biding in any sense for all kids under 17-18 yrs. This is sick, realy.

And what is the message? Selling half of 15 yrs old child. That sounds more racist than Hitler.
 

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I would forbid by law selling/trading/biding in any sense for all kids under 17-18 yrs. This is sick, realy.

And what is the message? Selling half of 15 yrs old child. That sounds more racist than Hitler.

wat

that escalated quickly

not sure if you know what racist means
 
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