Italian Serie A 2021/2022

[Opie]

Ah poor Juventus lost again...

 

[Opie]

Good to see Venezia get the 3 points. American owned and some Americans on the team. Might be a bit of a struggle to stay up but you never know.

 

[kurt0411]

Annoying to think that if we kept the same squad as last season we’d have won the league by 25 points this year but oh well what’s done is done. Obligatory Fuck you Suning

This will be a 7 horse race I’m sure with teams gradually dropping towards the end, a lot of teams are going to drop points this season, I think 80 points may end up being enough to win it. Let’s hope we drop as little as possible starting from tmrw

 

[.h.]

If we can win the league and make like 150mil on thr market id call it a win. Winning the league by 1 point or 25 points is irrelevant, you get the same at the end for it.

 

[Jnr]

Next week they play against Milan. I hope they drop points again. We cannot write them off as long as aleggri still there. If they keep losing points, hope allegri is sacked

I can give you ONE name , who's feet Agnello will start to lick , to get out of this mess. The guy plays 352.

 

[Il Drago]

I can give you ONE name , who's feet Agnello will start to lick , to get out of this mess. The guy plays 352.

This guy?

Seriously doubt it. Agnelli is too arrogant to bring him back. If Juve fire Allegri, which i doubt, they will probably try to bring Zidane.

 

[.h.]

Fortunately conte took a pay out...!

 

[PHM1605]

If we can win the league and make like 150mil on thr market id call it a win. Winning the league by 1 point or 25 points is irrelevant, you get the same at the end for it.

No, they aren't the same. The more convincingly we could win the league, the better players and sponsorship we could attract. We send a bigger message in the latter case.

Moreover, a more comfortable league run allows us to save gas by rotating a bit, to spend elsewhere. Resulting in better outcomes in Europe.

 

[Kev9Inter]

Chiellini to DAZN: "It's clear that with Cuadrado, Chiesa, and Dybala it's different than playing with De Sciglio, who with all due respect has different characteristics. We could have been more proactive but it was difficult to ask more from Kulusevski and Morata."

 

[TheNetworkZ]

Chiellini to DAZN: "It's clear that with Cuadrado, Chiesa, and Dybala it's different than playing with De Sciglio, who with all due respect has different characteristics. We could have been more proactive but it was difficult to ask more from Kulusevski and Morata."

What makes this quote so believable without hearing the source is the fact that it came from a lifelong cunt. How the hell can you make a quote like that about your teammates

 

[nelsonrivas2011]

Dont underestimate Ronaldo, Chiesa, Dybala front three under allegri. Its something else

heh

 

[uzhang]

The best jinx i have made

 

[Choppin Onions]

Chiellini is a cunt but he ain’t wrong.

Also what was that header from Kean? What was he even doing with that? Was it a pass to his GK? He was a Interista growing up so maybe he’s just trying to help out

Juve will probably be fine over time but right now they’re a mess. And they have Milan next week. The season is long but anymore dropped points and it’s looking very grim for any scudetto aspirations

 

[Jnr]

This guy?

Seriously doubt it. Agnelli is too arrogant to bring him back. If Juve fire Allegri, which i doubt, they will probably try to bring Zidane.

With a 7M payout / gent's agreement, Conte cannot take another Serie A club this year ( Beppes deal Im reading). There wasnt any good options anyway for Conte's taste ( squad strengths)

After seeing stats screenshot vs Napoli, Rube will have a hard time even in Malmö, then Milan. They were so bad. Honeymoon period is over for 9M€ a year Allegri. Scenes when they will lose vs Milan too.

Sampdoria is a must win today.

 

[.h.]

No, they aren't the same. The more convincingly we could win the league, the better players and sponsorship we could attract. We send a bigger message in the latter case.

Moreover, a more comfortable league run allows us to save gas by rotating a bit, to spend elsewhere. Resulting in better outcomes in Europe.

if we go down that road then we need to start arguing about the incremental coosts. Lukaku+Hakimi was like another 20 mil a season in salary, 24m a year in amortisation... the additional sponsorship etc is NOT worth 44 mil a year, just to cover costs.

I'd rather we still had them, dont get me wrong, but if we can do what we did this summer and still wini the league, that's a masasively impressive window and one we should all be very happy with.

 

[.h.]

With a 7M payout / gent's agreement, Conte cannot take another Serie A club this year ( Beppes deal Im reading). There wasnt any good options anyway for Conte's taste ( squad strengths)

After seeing stats screenshot vs Napoli, Rube will have a hard time even in Malmö, then Milan. They were so bad. Honeymoon period is over for 9M€ a year Allegri. Scenes when they will lose vs Milan too.

Sampdoria is a must win today.

I'd love if Conte had to repay the bonus (which is the alleged fact) because Allegri doesnt work ouit

 

[PHM1605]

if we go down that road then we need to start arguing about the incremental coosts. Lukaku+Hakimi was like another 20 mil a season in salary, 24m a year in amortisation... the additional sponsorship etc is NOT worth 44 mil a year, just to cover costs.

I'd rather we still had them, dont get me wrong, but if we can do what we did this summer and still wini the league, that's a masasively impressive window and one we should all be very happy with.

Most of us agree on the Lukaku sale. But you can't excuse for the shitty Hakimi deal. Don't need to add up the two just to make the number bigger.

Had Hakimi stayed, we don't need to buy Dumfries. The incremental cost is like 9m per year, and yes, that's EASILY covered by additional sponsorship.

Your last sentence...no, we went from a "massively impressive window" to a "good enough" window. Because that loss is still painful for at least another decade. We can't find a better player than him any time soon, period.

 

[.h.]

Most of us agree on the Lukaku sale. But you can't excuse for the shitty Hakimi deal. Don't need to add up the two just to make the number bigger.

Had Hakimi stayed, we don't need to buy Dumfries. The incremental cost is like 9m per year, and yes, that's EASILY covered by additional sponsorship.

Your last sentence...no, we went from a "massively impressive window" to a "good enough" window. Because that loss is still painful for at least another decade. We can't find a better player than him any time soon, period.

wut? I was literally replying to Kurt's comment about having the same squad as we had last year.

Hakimi salary = 10m/yr (gross), amortisation = 8m/yr. Dumfries = 2.5m/yr amortisation and 5m/yr gross. So that's 7.5m vs 18m. Pretty substantial. Bear in mind, we've reduced salaries, massively reduced amortisation, AND taken new sponsorship. We needed all 3 of these things to get to where we are now. There's no world where the increased sponsorship would cover amortisation/etc - its covering existing losses. This is evidenced by the fact that we didnt spend more money this window IMHO.

Lukaku also fucked us on his exit, we might have been able to keep Hakimi if he/Chelsea agreed earlier.


Time will tell - but to be honest, Hakimi needs to broaden his skills beyond being fast. Conte did some great work on him last season, and there's a lot more to come I'm sure. Anyway, whats done is done, and given the constraints of our financials atm, if we can go from Hakimi+Lukaku & Bankrupt in 2 years to Dumfries+Dzeko+Correa & a club that is still alive in 2024, while winning the league this year, that's a damn good result.

You know what loss would hurt more than losing Hakimi? Losing Inter.

 

[Il Drago]

wut? I was literally replying to Kurt's comment about having the same squad as we had last year.

Hakimi salary = 10m/yr (gross), amortisation = 8m/yr. Dumfries = 2.5m/yr amortisation and 5m/yr gross. So that's 7.5m vs 18m. Pretty substantial. Bear in mind, we've reduced salaries, massively reduced amortisation, AND taken new sponsorship. We needed all 3 of these things to get to where we are now. There's no world where the increased sponsorship would cover amortisation/etc - its covering existing losses. This is evidenced by the fact that we didnt spend more money this window IMHO.

Lukaku also fucked us on his exit, we might have been able to keep Hakimi if he/Chelsea agreed earlier.


Time will tell - but to be honest, Hakimi needs to broaden his skills beyond being fast. Conte did some great work on him last season, and there's a lot more to come I'm sure. Anyway, whats done is done, and given the constraints of our financials atm, if we can go from Hakimi+Lukaku & Bankrupt in 2 years to Dumfries+Dzeko+Correa & a club that is still alive in 2024, while winning the league this year, that's a damn good result.

You know what loss would hurt more than losing Hakimi? Losing Inter.

This summer would be easier to swallow if it ends up being a one time thing. A summer of sacrifices in order to save Inter and also remain a Scudetto contender. It's just i fear this could be the new norm and this summer will end up being the beginning of the club's downsizing. If we need to make big profits every summer then it's impossible to remain competitive. Anyway, this isn't the right thread for this discussion so let's leave it for another time and place.

With a 7M payout / gent's agreement, Conte cannot take another Serie A club this year ( Beppes deal Im reading). There wasnt any good options anyway for Conte's taste ( squad strengths)

After seeing stats screenshot vs Napoli, Rube will have a hard time even in Malmö, then Milan. They were so bad. Honeymoon period is over for 9M€ a year Allegri. Scenes when they will lose vs Milan too.

Sampdoria is a must win today.

Speaking of Allegri salary, i remembered he signed a 4-year contract earning him 9m net/season. It would be great if he fails in his second stint but they're forced to keep him because they can't afford to fire him. The cost would be astronomical.

 

[Sawyer]

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