Italian Serie A 2022/2023

Who wins the Scudetto?


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dax21

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Skriniar won't leave because he would miss out on signing on fee. He is finishing the season here.

Why are you so sure about that? Both Inter and PSG have it in their respective best interest for the move to happen right now. Inter will get at least some money for him and PSG will pay less to Inter right now than to Skriniar for the signing bonus that is rumored. If Inter wants to play hard ball they can freeze him out of the squad if he refuses to move right now.

Don't get me wrong, I would prefer for him to hang around until the end of the season but our management will panic under the prospect of getting 0 euro for him.
 

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Skriniar is sold in the coming days.
Dzeko gets tired after 3 or 4 more matchdays, like last season.
Add a random injury because you can almost count on that.

Do you still think this squad is good enough to guarantee top 4? Need I remind you that Juventus now has freshly recovered Chiesa and Pogba which are essentially two completely new signings for them this season? Juve will make up the point difference, it's naive not to expect it. It's Milan and us who will keep dropping points every other match day.
LoL, our squad should be good enough to beat low table clubs. We have Barella, Hakan, Brozovic, Mkhitaryan, Bastoni, Dzeko, Lautaro, Dumbfries, Dimarco and Gosens. Our bench is shit, but let's not pretend that competition is so strong. Jube are in deep shits, and it's quite possible some of their players being banned to play for at least a month. Milan are in even worse crisis than us, and Lazio and Roma have worse squads on paper. If we cannot make it in top 4 with this competition, will be ridiculous and 99% on the coach.
Skrinar also will stay, as apparently PSG won't buy him now due to FFP, or because they want to do it.
 

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Skriniar is holding all the cards here. Its been already decided inside his head, with his wife, his agent that the money guarantees from signing as a free transfer to PSG is once in a lifetime. He can and 99% reject all transfers because he will lose out on his signing fee. And as a team we might be losing out CL spot without him which is way more valuable than begging for this 10M€ . So we should continue with him. Secure CL , try to win the Coppa, signing his replacement now will harm us more because January moves are always more expensive . Focus on his replacement for the summer, close Skriniar chapter in the summer. He's been a long servant and all the titles we've won is also thanks to him. At the end of the day football is also a business . Obviously he chooses an offer which is TWICE compared to us. Signing fee and contract might be 15-20M€ + 50M€ @PSG vs Inters 2M€ contract bonus + 30M€ total with a 5 year contract.
 

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Skriniar is sold in the coming days.
Dzeko gets tired after 3 or 4 more matchdays, like last season.
Add a random injury because you can almost count on that.

Do you still think this squad is good enough to guarantee top 4? Need I remind you that Juventus now has freshly recovered Chiesa and Pogba which are essentially two completely new signings for them this season? Juve will make up the point difference, it's naive not to expect it. It's Milan and us who will keep dropping points every other match day.
Our squad is more than enough to qualify for top 4. If anything, our squad should be capable enough to challenge Scudetto as this team is not so different with conte's winning team. Just look at Lazio, Roma, or Atalanta and check how many of their players could be our starters. The problem is our manager cannot manage consistently in the league.
 

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If anything, our squad should be capable enough to challenge Scudetto as this team is not so different with conte's winning team.
I respect your opinion on our potential but this is just wrong. Let's have a look at Conte's starting XI:

Handanovic - sudden decline, benched

Bastoni - still a starter
DeVrij - sudden decline, benched
Skriniar - still a starter, sold?

Perisic - sold
Eriksen - sold
Barella - still a starter
Brozovic - barely played this season
Hakimi - sold

Lautaro - still a starter
Lukaku - dog ass garbage shadow of the singular peak of his career when he was Conte's adopted baby

Bastoni, Skriniar, Barella and Lautaro are the only remnants of Conte's era in this season. Players who replaced the absentees are either barely on par (Hakan, Onana) or objective downgrades (Dumfries, Dimarco, Dzeko, Acerbi, Mkhitaryan). Some of the latter names are performing above what was expected of them and no one is taking that away, but fucking Dzeko and Acerbi are never going to drag us to a scudetto win, and all of them would eat bench if Conte's men were still around.

We should be above our current position on the table given the overall quality of the squad, absolutely, but not by much if we are being honest.
 

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Few days before those matches we beat Napoli and Milan.
we should be defeating these ''bad'' teams, but we somehow always fuck it up. At the beginning of the season we had trouble with good teams and now its the opposite... This team is so strange.
 

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I respect your opinion on our potential but this is just wrong. Let's have a look at Conte's starting XI:

Handanovic - sudden decline, benched

Bastoni - still a starter
DeVrij - sudden decline, benched
Skriniar - still a starter, sold?

Perisic - sold
Eriksen - sold
Barella - still a starter
Brozovic - barely played this season
Hakimi - sold

Lautaro - still a starter
Lukaku - dog ass garbage shadow of the singular peak of his career when he was Conte's adopted baby

Bastoni, Skriniar, Barella and Lautaro are the only remnants of Conte's era in this season. Players who replaced the absentees are either barely on par (Hakan, Onana) or objective downgrades (Dumfries, Dimarco, Dzeko, Acerbi, Mkhitaryan). Some of the latter names are performing above what was expected of them and no one is taking that away, but fucking Dzeko and Acerbi are never going to drag us to a scudetto win, and all of them would eat bench if Conte's men were still around.

We should be above our current position on the table given the overall quality of the squad, absolutely, but not by much if we are being honest.
Exactly. And if we put Calhanoglu in the same bracket as Eriksen (Eriksen is overall a better player, but Calha for Inter provides the same) we have actually half of Conte`s team performing at the same paramaters. The squad overall is weaker. This is the reason I am not so harsh with Limone. This is not the same squad Conte won the scudetto.
 

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I don't know... look at Arsenal, MU, Newcastle, Barca they all use young players or some nobodies as their reserves. Even Bayern play 17-20-year-old kids, they don't have another 11 players as strong as their first team waiting for their hour.
 

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Exactly. And if we put Calhanoglu in the same bracket as Eriksen (Eriksen is overall a better player, but Calha for Inter provides the same) we have actually half of Conte`s team performing at the same paramaters. The squad overall is weaker. This is the reason I am not so harsh with Limone. This is not the same squad Conte won the scudetto.
Hakan is way better than what eriksen was for us in his time here.
 

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Comparing this team to team that Conte had is hillarious. Imagine having Hakimi instead Darmian right now,just imagine.. That one,just one player, in shitty league like this, propels us into serious scudetto race. And than there is post Bayern Perisic instead friggin DiMarco lol :D Also DeVrij was best defender of league that season,he was at his peak then,and now we have Acerbi there..
 

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Comparing this team to team that Conte had is hillarious. Imagine having Hakimi instead Darmian right now,just imagine.. That one,just one player, in shitty league like this, propels us into serious scudetto race. And than there is post Bayern Perisic instead friggin DiMarco lol :D Also DeVrij was best defender of league that season,he was at his peak then,and now we have Acerbi there..
I don't know why we are back comparing these squads. The conte squad should walk this league but with Limone you never know. I'd put 50% of de vrij being so shit down to limones blame as well. The amount of goals we have conceded is relegation stuff and de vrij hasn't been on the pitch for half of them
 

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Comparing this team to team that Conte had is hillarious. Imagine having Hakimi instead Darmian right now,just imagine.. That one,just one player, in shitty league like this, propels us into serious scudetto race. And than there is post Bayern Perisic instead friggin DiMarco lol :D Also DeVrij was best defender of league that season,he was at his peak then,and now we have Acerbi there..
I am almost sure, if we had Hakimi now, we would still be where we are. All the players we had both under Conte and Inzaghi significantly regressed with the latter's helm: Barella, Bastoni, Lautaro, SDV. He can't do anything with Lukaku - the striker who kept the whole league in awe for 2 seasons. But yeah, go on blaming players.
 

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I am almost sure, if we had Hakimi now, we would still be where we are. All the players we had both under Conte and Inzaghi significantly regressed with the latter's helm: Barella, Bastoni, Lautaro, SDV. He can't do anything with Lukaku - the striker who kept the whole league in awe for 2 seasons. But yeah, go on blaming players.
But the coach has an influence on the players performance. For example, Candreva was utter trash before Conte to come, but after that he was decent even for one season. Skriniar was a beast under Spaletti, but he struggled under Conte in the new system. Despite the formation is the same, the playing style of Inzaghi and Conte are different. I'm pretty sure that Hakimi would have struggled too in this system as he is great mainly on counter attacking. The whole defense regressed significantly under Inzaghi. Let's not blame the players only.
 
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