Italian Serie A 2024/2025

[bubba zanetti]

I dont wanna even imagine if we lose Hakan, Thuram, Barella or Bastoni for seven months. They should cancel Nations league or atleast reduce the number of matches, this is madness.

 

[Il Drago]

It looks like Roma are going for Ranieri in the end. According to Sky, Friedkin is going to meet with Ranieri in London to finalize the agreement.

They also report Antonello is a strong candidate to become Roma's CEO.

 

[pupivn]

Man, leave old man alone, he’s retired, it’s elder abuse

 

[HernanesLeftFoot88]

This. The only way things turn to normal is if players have a hard look on themselves and accept to have normal salaries. While they ask for higher and higher salaries clubs will push for more and more games.

Interesting point. I would have thought it was the other way round tho? Clubs like Barcelona/Man Utd/PSG totally skewing player wages in desperation to persuade players to join them instead of rivals. e.g Frenkie De Jong joined Barcelona in 2019 aged 22 and they gave him a wage of 350,000 p/w! For a 22 year old! Absolute madness!

Plus i think managers have some blame in this by rarely using their squad players but being happy to take the tv cash to buy the big players, then run these players into the ground. It just goes round in circles. The only thing that will stop it will be people losing interest and not paying for streaming/sky tv etc.

 

[vex]

This. The only way things turn to normal is if players have a hard look on themselves and accept to have normal salaries. While they ask for higher and higher salaries clubs will push for more and more games.

Valid point for the new cl format and world cup for clubs, but national football is a different story and in my book the biggest problem by far. Few more games in cl and world cup at the end of the season is far less of a problem than having national break every couple of weeks in the middle of the season. Players don't receive salaries playing for their national team, it's the national fa and fifa/uefa that are profiting there and are main agents pushing for it.

 

[pupivn]

the nations league thing. it used to be tournament/break/tournament/break over 4 years, but now that's reduced

and then we'll also get the same now with club world cup - 3 summer tournaments every 4 years? and most of our players do copa america too? its just fucking crowded, tbh, and players dont get a proper summer off.

Not really, yes, it’s too much games but it’s for top players from top teams. If you look at players at team like Torino, Cagliari … nothing changes for them.

And it comes from all sides, clubs want more money, organisations want more money, players want more money, agents want more money …

For Bayern Munich's long-time CEO Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, the increasing burdens on footballers are also partly their own fault.

"The players and their advisors have maneuvered themselves into this trap. By demanding ever higher and higher salaries, they are forcing the clubs to generate ever higher revenues. And what generates this income? Through more games," the 69-year-old told the specialist magazine "Kicker".

Rummenigge puts the blame on the players

The rising costs for professional footballers have sparked debate. Ex-Bayern boss Karl-Heinz Rummenigge doesn't just blame the clubs and associations, but also holds the players accountable.

www.bluewin.ch

 

[Kramerica Industries]

what "needs" to happen is ACL tear for Mbappe, Haaland and whoever else is very popular, let's say Yamal

when that happens, maybe things will change

I get your point but, man, the current Ballon d'Or winner literally accepted the award one month after tearing his ACL. Rodri isn't in that class popularity-wise but he's not that far off either if he's managing to win hipster BdO's.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Valid point for the new cl format and world cup for clubs, but national football is a different story and in my book the biggest problem by far. Few more games in cl and world cup at the end of the season is far less of a problem than having national break every couple of weeks in the middle of the season. Players don't receive salaries playing for their national team, it's the national fa and fifa/uefa that are profiting there and are main agents pushing for it.

There's always been NT breaks, several during the season.

They need to figure out to stop those constant breaks during the season and find a different way to have those games. Associations want their games and they are a player in UEFA/FIFA decision-making so we can't expect that NT games are just removed or anything like that. Players want to play for their national teams (that applies specially for South-Americans IMO).

 

[delaurentis]

So Ranieri is the new Roma manager - wishing him all the best (except against Inter).

 

[Il Drago]

Rube confirmed ACL injury for Cabal. They will certainly sign a cb in January but till then there are many matches left. Their only available cbs are Danilo (who isn't rated by Motta), Kalulu and Gatti.

 

[Kramerica Industries]

I dont wanna even imagine if we lose Hakan, Thuram, Barella or Bastoni for seven months. They should cancel Nations league or atleast reduce the number of matches, this is madness.

We've been overwhelmingly lucky with injuries in these past 15 months or so. What's the worst we've had, Pavard missing a couple months last year? Our best players haven't tended to get hurt for too long, and they haven't tended to get injured at the same time. We've been more than able to absorb some of these blows in short-term periods. Our luck is due to eventually run out.

 

[ElDuccio]

the end with john cena and fredkin

 

[NimAraya]

Rube confirmed ACL injury for Cabal. They will certainly sign a cb in January but till then there are many matches left. Their only available cbs are Danilo (who isn't rated by Motta), Kalulu and Gatti.

They can have de Vrij for a few millions.

 

[pier]

I think we've seen some great performances by Serie A players so far this season. I've put together a list of young players, players in form and players who have rediscovered their form up to matchday 12 (in my opinion).

- GK
Devies Vasquez - Empoli
Mile Svilar - Roma
David De Gea - Fiorentina
Zion Suzuki - Parma
Stefano Turati - Monza
Carnesecchi - Atalanta

- Defenders
Nuno Tavares - Lazio
Pietro Comuzzo - Fiorentina
Alessandro Buongiorno - Napoli
Dodo - Fiorentina
Botond Balogh - Parma
Di Lorenzo - Napoli
Enrico Delprato - Parma
Saul Coco - Torino
Patrick Dorgu - Lecce
Ardian Ismajli - Empoli

- Midfielders
Christian Pulisic - AC Milan
Lookman - Atalanta
Kenan Yildiz - Juventus
Dennis Man - Parma
Andrea Colpani - Fiorentina
Edoardo Bove - Fiorentina
Nico Paz - Como
Reda Belahyane - Verona
Adrian Bernabe - Parma
Samuele Ricci - Torino
Scott McTominay - Napoli
Manu Kone - AS Roma
Jacopo Fazzini - Empoli
Daniel Maldini - Monza

-Forwards
Mateo Retegui - Atalanta
Moise Kean - Fiorentina
Valentin Castellanos - Lazio
Marcus Thuram - Inter
Boulaye Dia - Lazio
Sebastiano Esposito - Empoli
Lorenzo Lucca - Udinese
Santiago Castro - Bologna
Ange-Yoan Bonny - Parma
Jeff Ekhator - Genoa
Casper Tengstedt - Verona

 

[CafeCordoba]

We've been overwhelmingly lucky with injuries in these past 15 months or so. What's the worst we've had, Pavard missing a couple months last year? Our best players haven't tended to get hurt for too long, and they haven't tended to get injured at the same time. We've been more than able to absorb some of these blows in short-term periods. Our luck is due to eventually run out.

Is it just luck?

 

[PHM1605]

We've been overwhelmingly lucky with injuries in these past 15 months or so. What's the worst we've had, Pavard missing a couple months last year? Our best players haven't tended to get hurt for too long, and they haven't tended to get injured at the same time. We've been more than able to absorb some of these blows in short-term periods. Our luck is due to eventually run out.

If something happens for 1.5 years (and more) that isn't luck. We haven't overused our exhausted players due to good squad depth.

Plus don't buy glass players in the first place.

 

[wera]

It's easy to say don't buy glass players. Sometimes glass players become players that don't get injured that often (Robben), sometimes a player that never gets injured.....gets injured badly. It's lottery. That is why you try to have at least two players for every position.

 

[Kramerica Industries]

If something happens for 1.5 years (and more) that isn't luck. We haven't overused our exhausted players due to good squad depth.

Plus don't buy glass players in the first place.

Bremer - Injury history

This is the injury history of Bremer from Juventus Turin. On this page injuries as well as suspensions.

www.transfermarkt.us

Bremer only a handful of minor injuries, none of them directly related to his knees, then boom the guy pops his ACL. It really doesn't take much.

 

[vex]

Nice little article and research about the stuff we talked about here recently regarding injuries, how much it affects quality of football and ridiculous amount of games.

The Italian Footballers' Association has published a study called "Injury time" to highlight how injuries are sharply increasing, due to an increasingly busy schedule. According to the data, a footballer from a top-tier club plays around 55 games today and is out for an average of 71 days. This is what the last two seasons say. The games will become 11 more on average per year, re-parameterizing the data, there is a risk of having every single player from top-tier clubs out due to injury 107 days a year.

"Increasing the offer of football on TV seems to be the only response from the international institutions of our system to the decline in fans' interest in football and the decrease in the value of TV rights - these are the words of AIC president Umberto Calcagno reported by La Gazzetta dello Sport -. Increasing the offer means adding matches, trips, commitments to athletes who are already close to a very high injury risk threshold. It is no longer just a question of health protection. Our commitment is to protect the quality of the show we offer our fans".

"The data from the last two seasons clearly shows this: if a player plays more than 55 games with his club (in addition to the national team), statistically he risks being unavailable for at least 70 days in a season. This is equivalent to saying that for 70 or more days the public will not be able to see some of the best protagonists of the game for which they paid the ticket, at the stadium or on TV. Top-level football depends on media logic. This is why we must work to ensure that the top players are put in the best conditions to express themselves at their highest level".

"Our research - says Calcagno - analyzed two 'historic' seasons for our world. For the first time a World Cup and a European Championship were played 16 months apart, instead of 24. A super-season in which the athletes never had the opportunity to recover their strength and perform to the best of their ability. Further increasing the television offering of matches is equivalent to decreasing the level of the product sold, devaluing it and putting the physical integrity of the protagonists at risk".

 

[Il Drago]

Genoa fired Gilardino according to Moretto and Romano. His replacement is gonna be Patrick Vieira.