José "The Special One" Mourinho

[M.Adnan]

sheik spits money and doesn't give a fuck.

Isn't that the same case is Chelsea too?

 

[_Ivan_]

Isn't that the same case is Chelsea too?

No.
Abramovic is not sheik

 

[M.Adnan]

No.
Abramovic is not sheik

But they have good financial resources, don't they? which is my point in the first place. They can buy and attract top players just like any other top club, unlike us or Milan.

 

[_Ivan_]

But they have good financial resources, don't they? which is my point in the first place. They can buy and attract top players just like any other top club, unlike us or Milan.

I got your point but I was comparing leagues if you read my full post. The point is Man Utd, City, Arsenal, L-Pool in the first place can spend enormous amounts of cash and bring top players and compete for the top places/title (which they're doing, specially 2 manchesters) and in Ligue 1 nobody except PSG can't (Monaco could be exception but Ribolovljev seems to have lost his interest in club) so that's why their league is so shitty and easy so therefore you can't compare it with EPL,La Liga or Serie A.

Second thing, I see you mentioned us too. We have brought some good players (not top yet) and we're doing great job so far, if this keeps up alongside Serie A keeps getting stronger surely we will attract more and more top players.

 

[M.Adnan]

I got your point but I was comparing leagues if you read my full post. The point is Man Utd, City, Arsenal, L-Pool in the first place can spend enormous amounts of cash and bring top players and compete for the top places/title (which they're doing, specially 2 manchesters) and in Ligue 1 nobody except PSG can't (Monaco could be exception but Ribolovljev seems to have lost his interest in club) so that's why their league is so shitty and easy so therefore you can't compare it with EPL,La Liga or Serie A.

Second thing, I see you mentioned us too. We have brought some good players (not top yet) and we're doing great job so far, if this keeps up alongside Serie A keeps getting stronger surely we will attract more and more top players.

Your point about having almost no competitor in Ligue 1 is valid. I think it would be a coward move by Mourinho if he joins them. I think that he should join a club similar to Inter (and Chelsea) if he wants to be called the special one again. His spell at Real Madrid was stupid too.

 

[Javier'sSon]

I think if he does indeed get sacked, which is highly likely if he doesn't win the next 2 games (Porto in the CL and Leicester in the PL!), he should take a sabbatical like other managers have been doing as of late. Get himself outside of the limelight, regroup and assess his - better - options later on, his CV is still one of the best and I imagine owners will still bet on him.

 

[TGDella]

No way would they sack him if he doesn't win those really difficult game. If they were gonna sack him they'd have done it already. He'll get at least to Christmas now, quite probably the whole season unless they're actually in relegation danger.

 

[Armes]

Leicester in the PL!

Already sacked.
Fucking hilarious though. Would love to see Tinkerman's smiley face deciding his fate.

 

[Zlatan4life]

Mourinho isn't exactly a coach, it would be an insult to true coaches like Pep, Simeone, Klopp and so on.

He's more or less a over glorified sporting director.

And Mou has never developed a decent young talent to world class.

 

[Pimpin]

Mourinho isn't exactly a coach, it would be an insult to true coaches like Pep, Simeone, Klopp and so on.

He's more or less a over glorified sporting director.

And Mou has never developed a decent young talent to world class.

dude go fuck yourself

 

[Zlatan4life]

dude go fuck yourself

Hahaha, talk about being sensitive

I bet you can't even come up with argument(s) why I'm wrong about Mourinho...

 

[bandiera]

how can you even consider it, that's outrageous. we fired mancini to get him, guy left us and after madrid, went back to fucking chelsea while we were in desperate need of revival. mancini has gotten us back on our feet again, and 'inter' fans want mourinho. tsk tsk.
and i don't even like mancini.

sure, but you don't like mourinho either.

zero discussion when it comes to mourinho vs mancini. we can be talking about them as managers or their suitability to the club but it doesnt make any difference whatsoever. remember when roby got fired and mourinho built something after 1 year mancini couldnt build in 4? in that 1 year, mourinho built a well balanced attack? built the strongest defense in europe? found the right midfield partner for cambiasso? found the right defensive partner for samuel?

anyways, the fact mancini preceded mou and there were players that played under both managers is irrelevant to whether or not he built the base for the treble or that his work was building towards that because it wasnt. tactically it was all mou, the group was also a lot stronger under mou (and it was cuper not mancini who brought a winning mentality here). in terms of players, 5 key starters (our entire attack) were mou signings so it wasnt anything of a base in those terms either, and mancini's "work" shouldnt be completely judged as if he was our sporting director, not our manager.

we succeeded in the aftermath of our rivals getting relegated/penalized and the signing of some of their best players. we were in a league with no competition and yet even then we nearly fucked up against roma (they were strong but they shouldnt have even been close). one of the highest wage budgets in europe and we failed/underperformed every year in europe because we didnt face a massive quality gap and mancini couldnt rely on ibra to do it all by himself. failure of the mancini project within the context of winning trophies isnt a question of if but when. im not convinced we'll qualify for CL this season. it will only happen if napoli or roma badly fuck up, roma's loss to barcelona has clearly fucked things up for them but its not big enough of a fuckup so far to convince me of anything.

if mourinho is sacked by chelsea and he wants to come back here, its a no brainer even if we magically win the title or qualify for CL under mancini. of course, that will never be in consideration because jose is too conceited to consider tainting his godly status in milano and he was publicly unhappy in italy and italian football.

 

[Fapuccino]

I don't see anywhere else he can coach other than here tbh. Maybe PSG, but I don't see him moving to Paris (league is the main issue but that aside I don't think a public figure with a family would go there willingly in these times)

 

[VLE]

zero discussion when it comes to mourinho vs mancini. we can be talking about them as managers or their suitability to the club but it doesnt make any difference whatsoever. remember when roby got fired and mourinho built something after 1 year mancini couldnt build in 4? in that 1 year, mourinho built a well balanced attack? built the strongest defense in europe? found the right midfield partner for cambiasso? found the right defensive partner for samuel?

Eh... In the first year, Mou brought Muntari, A.Mancini and Quaresma, which btw was more $$ than what Mancini could spend in 2 years.

 

[bandiera]

Eh... In the first year, Mou brought Muntari, A.Mancini and Quaresma, which btw was more $$ than what Mancini could spend in 2 years.

nothing you said changes what i said. in 4 years mancini couldnt achieve what mou built in 1. the fact mou spent more money in his first year than mancini spent in his first two changes jackshit. mancini was here for 4 years, and honestly, you cannot talk about money when it comes to roberto mancini. when you look at what we acheived under mou and what we achieved under mancini and the amount of money both spent, its no contest.

under roby we had one of the highest wage budgets in europe FOR YEARS and were the most underperforming team in CL. any time we didnt face a massive quality gap, we could not win. he spent a lot more money than mou over that entire period, had more time, had a lot of great players for a long time (julio, zanetti, maic, materazzi, cambiasso, ibra, crespo, cruz, adriano, vieira, deki etc) and even then we struggled to win the scudetto against fucking roma. 4 years in and cambiasso didnt have the right mf partner, samuel didnt have the right df partner, he was still mindlessly clogging the midfield with defensive midfielders, gameplan was still long balls to ibrahimovic. eliminated in the round of 16 for two years straight, team didnt even have the mental focus to beat villareal. lost the coppa italia and supercoppa in his last year to roma, the 7-2 coppa italia loss to roma also rings in my mind. its ridiculous really. mancini was very lucky for moratti to give him the job on the back of cuper's work and 2 years before calciopoli. this job handed him a lot of undeserved prestige as a manager.

its beyond farcical to compare mancini vs mourinho in any context. for inter, as managers, for any club. there is no comparison between an average manager and one of the best of all time.

 

[Javier'sSon]

Mourinho is obviously better than Mancini (and most managers) but it's ignorant to hold Mancini's 1st tenure with us against him to this day, he's done a good job with City. Whether you liked the football they played under him is irrelevant. Yes, he had the riches the Abu Dhabi billionaires had to offer but Chelsea and Man U are elite RICH clubs and they were his competition. Relying on Silva, Toure and Aguero for the goals with the solid defensive work he deployed could be argued against him. However, letting players flourish and play their game to the best of their abilities is surely a trait of a good manager, even Nasri and Balotelli contributed to the season they won the PL. I realize that his European record is fuckin abysmal and there's no point in even trying to deny that.

Mourinho have always had a great budget to work with, in that regard they are no different. Of course the self proclaimed special one is one of the best if not the best in his man management skills of his players, he creates this 'us against the world' mentality and has worked wonders for him. Usually when his teams were considered underdogs against the best of the best at the time. He does, on the other hand, have some glaring flaws. He never establishes young players and that is scandalous in my opinion when you look at the players he got rid of, especially with his time at Chelsea. De Bruyne? Lukaku? Mata? Perhaps that is why he prefers to coach older players, so they can take in his approach with no complaining. This leads to Inter.

The average age of his squad with Inter was pretty old. He is not one to build for the future and his infamous style that got him so many trophies can backfire like his time with Madrid and his time with the Blues now, and that is also another reason why he is only a short term solution - albeit a very very good one -.

If Mancini does well this season and (knock on wood) wins the Serie A then that surely adds to his already impressive CV. Just as much as I criticize him (and I do quite often) I'll give him credit when he deserves it and I believe he does warrant it for his time in England, not really sure or care how did he do in Turkey but I think he only won the cup there? But as I said if he does win Serie A then that is another impressive achievement he has done. If he gets us back in the CL I won't be as convinced (but of course very satisfied) really because with the players he requested and got and how results are required immediately in today's game, with the salary he's on. Then that is what he is supposed to accomplish.

 

[delaurentis]

I Always felt he lost it when he moved to Real Madrid,

(Quote this) If I were Guardiola, I would ask Chelsea to keep Mourinho in charge, so when Guardiola joins Chelsea this summer, he could make Chelsea better. I can hardly imagine Chelsea playing worse then they do now. It would be great for his legacy, to humiliate Mourinho like that. And nobody could every accuse him again for taking on easy jobs.

 

[Zoro]

It would still be an easy job no? Just cause they are playing bad now wouldn't mean that much next year, most of the same players would be there I'd imagine which lets not forget won the league last year. I dunno I won't respect Pep as a top top manager until he wins the league he is in (not even champions league tbh) with a team like Liverpool/Roma/Leverkusen/Valencia.

 

[Armes]

if mourinho is sacked by chelsea and he wants to come back here, its a no brainer even if we magically win the title or qualify for CL under mancini. of course, that will never be in consideration because jose is too conceited to consider tainting his godly status in milano and he was publicly unhappy in italy and italian football.

look, if moratti was here, then it'd be a 'no brainer' (and you despise moratti), but if we have any pride at all, him getting sacked and wanting to come here, considering the all around situation, the no brainer is thohir giving him the middle finger.
obviously no comaprison as to who's the better coach. my dislike for Mourinho is mainly for how he chose to part ways with us and how he went back to chelsea after madrid.

 

[Glass box]

His Madrid adventure was stupid, it's like he signed voluntairly to be second after Barca. He might even succeeded there personally winning Primera in 2012 and some Cups, but he didn't took down Barca which was the main reason he left, not standing the underdog position.