José "The Special One" Mourinho

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I guess if you support Conte but dislike Mourinho, you're an asslicker. Don't ubderstand that, but okay.

Some don't want Conte and Marotta to win because they are "only Jube cheaters and nothing else". It would destroy the narrative when it's ex-Juve personel the ones that make Inter great again. I think it's quite poetic, it shuts up a portion of fans from both clubs.
 

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Yep if this guy is still gonna be posting on the forums after this post than this place has lost any integrity it had left. Also one last message to you before you’re banned from here: Why would I support Rube? I’ve backed my team the whole way through, you never made a post without insulting our coach or our players before we got to a good run so if anyone should support Rube it’s you. You’d fit right in there. Anyways goodbye kid....maybe you’ll learn something about football one day

Yea,you'll teach me about football.Suporting Cunte who benched Eriksen whole year and playing Gags instead.12m per year coach,and after one fkn year he realized that and started to field best players and look,we play now well and we are winning. 90% of this forum knew this but Cunte who is Inter menager needed 12 months for realize that Gags and Young are shit. And experiments with Kolarov and Dambro as CBS,that travesty in CL,and so on..We would be 12 points ahead with top coach.So yes,that is your football knowledge,you were suporting him whole time.He is doing good now and I will first admit when things are going great and when he is doing good job,but not you.You just lick and lick,no matter what this guy does for this club. And now you talk about football knowledge to other members,what do you think who you are,some football expert or what,lol..Ignore from now on.I'm finished with you.
 

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Yea,you'll teach me about football.Suporting Cunte who benched Eriksen whole year and playing Gags instead.12m per year coach,and after one fkn year he realized that and started to field best players and look,we play now well and we are winning. 90% of this forum knew this but Cunte who is Inter menager needed 12 months for realize that Gags and Young are shit. And experiments with Kolarov and Dambro as CBS,that travesty in CL,and so on..We would be 12 points ahead with top coach.So yes,that is your football knowledge,you were suporting him whole time.He is doing good now and I will first admit when things are going great and when he is doing good job,but not you.You just lick and lick,no matter what this guy does for this club. And now you talk about football knowledge to other members,what do you think who you are,some football expert or what,lol..Ignore from now on.I'm finished with you.

You do know mourinho earns 15million pound a year and benched eriksen as well?
 

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He even sold Eriksen! Imagine that.
 

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Conte and Eriksen problem is not solely on Conte to be fair. Eriksen did have issues when he arrived. I think credit is for both Conte and Eriksen to work together for the greater good.
 

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You do know mourinho earns 15million pound a year and benched eriksen as well?

And Gagliardini played instead him? There is no excuse to field 5Gag instead Eriksen.Worst Tottenham midfielder is 2 times better player than Gags.Even fkn Winks.No excuses. Look,I agree that Mou is his past prime,but Cunte will never be his prime level,no way.
 

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Mou's best chance to save his job there is if he wins the Europa League, since qualifying to CL through the league will be very hard. Not that EL will be easy, but I assume he still got it in cup competitions. He is also in a League Cup final in April against Man City, it won't hurt if he wins that too, anything can happen in a cup final.

His team looks like they don't know what to do with the ball most of the time. The only midfielder who can pull something creative out of his arse is Ndombele. If it wasn't for Ndombele, the situation could've been even worse. They are a Ndombele absence away from no distribution to Kane and Son upfront. And Kane also helps by dropping deeper and passing.

His CB's are the worst. Eric Dier is a disaster. I can see why he wanted Skriniar, Skriniar walks into their defense any day.

However, it doesn't help if those defenders, or any defenders, are put under the pressure to defend for majority of a 90 minutes game. Sooner or later their concentration will collapse, and also they are afraid of committing errors for a whole game! Relying on opposition's mistake during their attacks the whole time is unsustainable. Even if you create a few chances that way, it doesn't mean you will take them all.

The attackers must be 100% accurate in their finishing, and the defenders must be 100% successful in not committing errors for a whole game in this Mourinho system. That is simply impossible.
 

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Apparently, after the loss against Manchester United, Mourinho is having his worst league season as a manager.

I can not help but wonder what is going on with him at Spurs. I think he will be gone at the end of the season.
 

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He needs to decide if he'll take his career seriously or just milk money off of idiots just to be close to his family.
 

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He needs to decide if he'll take his career seriously or just milk money off of idiots just to be close to his family.

Regarding future coach positions, his problem will be that no club is going to want him because he has seemingly forgotten how to manage his players.
 

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Mourinho needs to take a break and find new things to his football and methods if he wants to continue his career.
 

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Regarding future coach positions, his problem will be that no club is going to want him because he has seemingly forgotten how to manage his players.

He never could pamper spoiled brats, he's always been excellent at coaching a group of men.

If Portugal job opens up after the Euro, he should take it and relax. Then get back to club football where his ideology fits, not just where his zip code accepts parcel deliveries...

If we cannot bring him back, I'd love to see him at Lyon or Marseille, Atletico Madrid (if Cholo leaves) and even in Italy for a team that decides to become serious, such as Fiorentina or Roma, though I couldn't bear that. Cannot see him joining Juventus, but Milan on the other hand is a scary possibility.

English football is not cut for him, it's for guys like Klopp and Guardiola who are more like brother figures than father figures. His Chelsea squad was a good match because they were perennial underachievers and then got the backing of Abramovich and that was the push they just needed. And it was in a tougher era, where seeing Keane and Vieira clash in a derby was expected, rather than a surprise. Nowadays most of the PL players are friends with each other, there's no heat and there's no real pressure anyway, something that was always a thing there, but not to this extent. You cannot instill pressure and channel it through football to a group of people who do not understand it.
 

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Yeah and times change. These days footballers are indeed the spoiled brats for most part. Specially the really talented ones because they've been praised and flattered for years yet they are 20 something. Mourinho is really old school in this regard. It just doesn't work with all the groups and clearly Spurs group is a one where it didn't end up working.

His football method obviously might be also outdated.
 

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I don't think we have a roster filled with spoiled brats honestly. Juventus didn't either until recently. Roma as well.

On the other hand, Milan seemed to be like this until Zlatan appeared in the locker room, similar to how it was with Manchester United. When he left, Mourinho lost the locker room.

Conte did not have this issue at Juventus, had this issue at Chelsea (as did Hiddink, Mourinho and to an extent Sarri but he didn't care that much as long as he could smoke). He does not have this issue at Inter now. It's one thing to have fights in a locker room, those exist everywhere, but it's another to have them overrun by irresponsible people who only care about their image. When those are non-existent or just the minority, a coach can do his job.

Neither Liverpool nor Manchester City have a lot of primadonnas, even if they spent a lot of money, but there's still an element of mental fragility between these kids as they're part of a culture and generation that's drawn to this mentality.

There are environments where players are not immature morons. Mourinho just needs to get there. Chelsea, Manchester United and Tottenham were terrible options for him, there's no other way to put it. The same applies with anyone, you can be really good at your job, but you cannot really thrive or even perform if the environment is toxic or if your subordinates don't care about what you're saying.

Hugo Lloris went off to talk about how the players didn't even follow the coach's instructions in the Dinamo Zagreb game, come on :lol: If he had 10 players with Lloris' mentality, he'd be going for the title in England for sure. These kids broke easily after a good run of form.
 

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He’s done, it’s painful to admit but he’s done. He needs to move into managing national teams, I think he can still do well in a cup format. But in a league format his methods are outdated, it’s as simple as that. You need to take more risks
 

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Tottenham always was a terrible choice for Mourinho. A high risk high reward job that didn't work out. The squad isn't suited to his football and the competition in the league is immense. Even prime Mourinho would struggle with this Tottenham. Tottenham probably was his last chance at a top club for the foreseeable future.

I can still see him doing well in Atletico and in Italy but i don't think he will get trusted at a top club again after his failure at Tottenham. I also have my doubts if he's willing to drop his demands massively and accept a job at a semi-top club like Sevilla, Lyon, Roma etc. in order to restore his name. His best chance probably is a NT where the coaching level is really low but i don't know if he's ready to take that step. He never sounded excited about the prospect.
 

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It's not as if he's some victim here, he is paid 15m pounds per year and spent some decent money on the transfer market.
 

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Nobody cares if today's kids are spoiled or pampered, coaches are hired to bring trophy with them period. It is either adapt or perish and Mourinho seems very outdated both in man management and tactic.

And we cannot blame spoiled brats everytime Mourinho fails. Chelsea were mature club until Mourinho stirred his team into the shit with various needless fallouts. MU improved after Mourinho left although the players and the boards are mostly similar. And Tottenham comprise many mature professional players such as Lloris, Alderweireld, Son, and Kane. Shame that Mourinho leads them to nowhere.
 

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Chelsea was what now? You're talking about 2014 Chelsea? Mature?

Lloris I give you, but Alderweireld didn't even know if he's staying or not, Son is a crybaby and Kane collapses under pressure. Come on...
 
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