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You've watched a lot of Bento (and Martinez) to make this assessment?
I have all Genoa games this season and enough Bento games to know who is the better one. Also seen all Monza games the last 2 seasons. So I am confident in my opinion regarding Martinez, Bento & Di Gregorio.

Its of course always possible for him to surprise me.
 

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Not understanding all the hate and negative comments about this guy. Sommer was also a ''bad'' signing at the time. If any team knows keeper talents, it's us.
This is revisionist history. If you check the Sommer transfer thread hardly anyone complained about him. Everyone was just sad to see Onana go.
 

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You never know. Martinez may become very good goalie. When you guys say average, what do you mean by that? What are his weaknesses and strengths?
Being a la masia product he is very good with the ball at his feet. He is average to poor on crosses and decent but not great on shot stopping.
 

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At this point, I'll just blindly believe in the fact that Inter never go wrong with goalkeepers.
Almost never, there was the miss with Frey. But I prefer not to remember that.
 

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I recall the days where was a weird rumor that Arsenal may pay 20mln for Satriano, and how many people didn't want to sell him, as he "could" develop into a decent starter.
 

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Thinking about it, Josep Martinez makes sense. Given his price and probably willingness to be second goalkeeper the upcoming season.

Di Gregorio was more expensive, not good with his feet and is going to be the first goalkeeper of Jube.

Bento was most probably our first choice. But given the fact his price will be much higher than 20 mln, and the fact we still have Sommer, such an investment didn’t make sense.

Than there is Martinez. His style fits in and he had a respectable (not impressive in any way) debut season at Serie A level. His price is quite low, he’s willing to sit on the bench coming season and he can showcase his abilities on the trainingground an possibly the Copa. If he doesn’t impress much we can either sell him or use him as a back-up. And look for a first goalkeeper next summer. Quite a low-risk investment (if the price is indeed as low as reported).
 

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J. Martinez is not as bad as people make of him, but Bento just shows signs of a generational talent, still there is not guarantee at the end of the day.

I watched Genoa's games but never paid attention to their keeper, mainly scouting Retegui.

Still there are things to appreciate J. Martinez

The way I see all the rumors GK:

Maduka Okoye - gives off Dida vibe, has the potential to be a top GK if he gets his basics right, but right now, you will see him saving some impossible and fucked up some basics.

J. Martinez - reminds me a bit of Handa, but obviously not to his prime level, has the reflexes, but keen on doing some anticipation, also I like how he moves, dives, very textbook like.

Bento - reminds me of Allison's talent.

Di Gregorio - a very solid GK that knows how to maximize the use of his defending players and very good basics, but exceptional plays are rarer compare to the others.

Even I do feel sad missing out on Bento, but buying players from Brazil is like a lottery ticket.
 

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Martinez spent 2 years in La Masia so he should be pretty decent with his feet you would think.
 

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Can we stop this "not good with his feet" bullshit? I'd rather have a proper goalie who can stop shots. We have fucking Pavard and Bastoni who can make those passes. Same shit was said about Sommer and we were just fine with him.
 

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Can we stop this "not good with his feet" bullshit? I'd rather have a proper goalie who can stop shots. We have fucking Pavard and Bastoni who can make those passes. Same shit was said about Sommer and we were just fine with him.
It matters in modern football. You don’t have to be the best passer on the field but you don’t want a lead-footed 80’s style goalkeeper out there either. Especially if your a team who wants to be capable of building out from the back. It also helps mitigate a press if you have a goalkeeper who’s comfortable on the ball and distributing. Not the most important thing but it shouldn’t be overlooked either.
 

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Not the most important thing but it shouldn’t be overlooked either.
Right, but how many times do you see keepers dismissed here due to the fact that he is not "good with his feet"? We have Pavard and Bastoni in the back, we are fine with building from the back. Keeper should be first and foremost a great shot stopper, being good with his feet is just a cherry on top.
 

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Can we stop this "not good with his feet" bullshit? I'd rather have a proper goalie who can stop shots. We have fucking Pavard and Bastoni who can make those passes. Same shit was said about Sommer and we were just fine with him.

There's a difference between shit people here said and what the management actually saw.

Inzaghi specifically said that we needed GK that's good on the ball during our GK search last year (implying Sommer was good at it).
 

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Right, but how many times do you see keepers dismissed here due to the fact that he is not "good with his feet"? We have Pavard and Bastoni in the back, we are fine with building from the back. Keeper should be first and foremost a great shot stopper, being good with his feet is just a cherry on top.
The way we play it’s nothing less than crucial for a goalkeeper to be good passing the ball and be comfortable with the ball at his feet. It’s not only about the build up, as you state we also have our centrebacks for that.

It’s more about luring the opponents to our side, lett them press us. Creating great amounts of space for ourself. Our GK must be resistent to those pressure and be able to deliver semi long balls to our wingbacks and midfielders. If we have a gk whose not capable with the ball we will lose possession a lot of times, or even worse.
 

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Thinking about it, Josep Martinez makes sense. Given his price and probably willingness to be second goalkeeper the upcoming season.

Di Gregorio was more expensive, not good with his feet and is going to be the first goalkeeper of Jube.

Bento was most probably our first choice. But given the fact his price will be much higher than 20 mln, and the fact we still have Sommer, such an investment didn’t make sense.

Than there is Martinez. His style fits in and he had a respectable (not impressive in any way) debut season at Serie A level. His price is quite low, he’s willing to sit on the bench coming season and he can showcase his abilities on the trainingground an possibly the Copa. If he doesn’t impress much we can either sell him or use him as a back-up. And look for a first goalkeeper next summer. Quite a low-risk investment (if the price is indeed as low as reported).
Agree with this.

Anyway, we may also be aiming for a capital gain from the transfer transaction.
However, the investment figure may not be as low as it appears.

Romano stated that the price is 10m plus one player. It would most likely be Satriano, the most expensive option on the list.
According to transfermrkt, his market value is at 7m.

So Josep Martinez's total transfer fee would be 17m.
We would receive approximately 6.2m in capital gains from the Satriano deal went the other way.
The contract would be in the range of 2m per year for 4 years, which is quite high for a backup role, but let us assume the maximum.

Thus, Josep Martinez would cost us 8m annually. Compared to this season's backup GK role, Audero only costs us 1.5m annually.
So a substantial increase considering we are trying to reduce it.
 

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Note: Does not include own goals
xG totals include penalty kicks, but do not include penalty shootouts (unless otherwise noted).
Provided by Opta.
An underline indicates there is a match that is missing data, but will be updated when available.

Goals Against -- Goals Against

Save Percentage -- Save Percentage
(Shots on Target Against - Goals Against)/Shots on Target Against
Note that not all shots on target are stopped by the keeper, many will be stopped by defenders
Does not include penalty kicks

PSxG/SoT -- Post-Shot Expected Goals per Shot on Target
Not including penalty kicks
PSxG is expected goals based on how likely the goalkeeper is to save the shot
Higher numbers indicate that shots on target faced are more difficult to stop and more likely to score
An underline indicates there is a match that is missing data, but will be updated when available.

Save% (Penalty Kicks) -- Penalty Save Percentage
Penalty Kick Goals Against/Penalty Kick Attempts
Penalty shots that miss the target are not included

Clean Sheet Percentage -- Clean Sheet Percentage
Percentage of matches that result in clean sheets.

Touches -- Number of times a player touched the ball. Note: Receiving a pass, then dribbling, then sending a pass counts as one touch

Launch % -- Percentage of Passes that were Launched
Not including goal kicks
Passes longer than 40 yards

Goal Kicks -- Goal Kicks Attempted

Avg. Length of Goal Kicks -- Average length of goal kicks, in yards

Crosses Stopped % -- Percentage of crosses into penalty area which were successfully stopped by the goalkeeper

Def. Actions Outside Pen. Area -- # of defensive actions outside of penalty area

Avg. Distance of Def. Actions -- Average distance from goal (in yards) of all defensive actions
 
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