Lautaro Martinez

PHM1605

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
Feb 25, 2013
Messages
4,257
Likes
1,311
There's no player that does zero pressing. But Lukaku for example did very little of it and when he did he did it poorly.
I said it previously. Lukaku spent all his gas on bulldozing the defenders when we were on counter; Lautaro didn't (not that he has the speed to begin with).

Just a matter of difference in tactical roles; say nothing about a player's characteristic.
 

Gaindé

Prima Squadra
Prima Squadra
Joined
Jul 12, 2019
Messages
776
Likes
661
I mean you're technically right. But this was never an argument against Vlahovic, he plays lone striker for Fio, of course he must not press like Lautaro otherwise their attack will be dead after 60 mins.

What I'm trying to say is Lautaro is maintaining a very good scoring rate (91mins per goal) in Serie A, despite his intense work in other areas. The trade off is clear, if he spends less energy on chasing defenders, he will be sharper in front of the goal. But do we really want to have 2 strikers who play with low intensity? Lautaro is nowhere as bad as you guys think.
Agree, this is exactly what makes him precious and important in Inter's team but people are always going to downplay what he does. 1 goal per 90 is great regardless, and it's even more impressive if you add in the fact that he provides that much activity.
 

Candreva Crosses

Allenatore
Allenatore
Joined
Feb 5, 2016
Messages
9,634
Likes
2,530
Favorite Player
Sheik Salman
Old username
EEeyOO
Please read again my "unless...". Jesus.
I used Zlatan as an example so you could get my point. Btw, zlatan's way of pressure has not changed the latest 10-15 years.

If every "modern" striker was doing the hard work as Lautaro then Simeone in Atletico would be offloading his liquid inside his balls on the market every single day.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MVD

SiamoNoi

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
Jul 21, 2012
Messages
2,188
Likes
1,484
Favorite Player
Cambiasso
He needs to take a card against Torino.

He also has 11 goals in Serie A. Feeling he's gonna break his Serie A goal scoring recoes (17)
11 in 1006 minutes while Vlahović is having 16 in 1609 minutes.Almost 7 full games more.


And since you are discussing Lautaro-Vlahović I found some interesting stats:

Goals/shots total
L 11/48
V 16/59

Goals/shots on target
L 11/20
V 16/24

Shots on target %
L 41.7%
V 40.7%

Goals per shot
L 0.17
V 0.19

Goals per shot on target
L 0.40
V 0.46


Not that much of a difference.


Also "expected goals" stat is interesting:
L 10.5
V 10.9

Goals minus expected goals:
L +0.5
V +5.1


Shot-creating (2.97 vs 2.80) and goal-creating actions (0.54 vs 0.50) per 90 minutes are also similar.

1st, this is not to say Lautaro is the better scorer. Only means he’s not holding anyone back with his scoring. While doing dirty works means you lose sharpness in front of the goal. Replacing Lautaro with a goalscorer means we gain something and lose some other thing, hence go nowhere.
What I'm trying to say is Lautaro is maintaining a very good scoring rate (91mins per goal) in Serie A, despite his intense work in other areas. The trade off is clear, if he spends less energy on chasing defenders, he will be sharper in front of the goal. But do we really want to have 2 strikers who play with low intensity? Lautaro is nowhere as bad as you guys think.
I can definitely agree with this.

It is similar discussion like few seasons earlier about replacing Brozović with some other player in midfield (can't remember who was).It's like I'm punching you in the face,you are punching me in the face.We are going nowhere that way.We need someone alongside Lautaro and not new player instead of Lautaro unless he is Mbappe or something which of course is not realistic.
 

CafeCordoba

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Mar 7, 2004
Messages
30,560
Likes
5,430
Favorite Player
Bar, Skr, Bas
10 years of FIF
Interesting stats. Doesn't look so bad after all given they are almost the same with the current Serie A golden boy.

It's definitely true that we need someone to play with Lautaro. Dzeko is old, he's not gonna be a default starter next season, we need someone to be that guy. Lautaro is our starter now and in the future. Issue is obviously we lack funds but maybe Marotta can find a way with Carnevali.
 

wera

might be Deadpool
La Grande Inter
Joined
Mar 28, 2011
Messages
25,781
Likes
2,770
Favorite Player
Bea Arthur
10 years of FIF
Most Diverse Poster
I'd rather have a Joao Felix type next to a striker, since I believe both Lautaro and Vlahović playing together wouldn't be as strong.
 

wera

might be Deadpool
La Grande Inter
Joined
Mar 28, 2011
Messages
25,781
Likes
2,770
Favorite Player
Bea Arthur
10 years of FIF
Most Diverse Poster

sdvroot

Prima Squadra
Prima Squadra
Joined
Oct 2, 2017
Messages
984
Likes
1,454
Favorite Player
Gianluca
FHTypReX0AUMZsD
 

qb4ever_2k

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
Sep 6, 2011
Messages
4,796
Likes
1,104
10 years of FIF
Honestly that photo with Alexis is beautiful. I love seeing our players become such close friends while they continue winning trophies for our club.

Well, south americans, good pals every other time, but can't wait to kill each other during international breaks.
 

IM21

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
Jan 9, 2015
Messages
3,862
Likes
6,197
Favorite Player
LN Ronaldo dL
More better finishing and less losing the ball in a dangerous situation.
 

YoramG

Allenatore
Allenatore
Joined
May 19, 2013
Messages
5,666
Likes
3,353
Favorite Player
Skriniar
He was looking on fire the first half, turning his marker constantly.

Still can't finish for shit, what is going on with that.
 
Top