Lautaro Martinez

[Besnik]

14 goals only is shockingly bad for Inter. Milan's top goalscorer has 29 goals while Juve's has 42 goals. Hopefully Lautaro corrects that.

I agree. These numbers are quite poor, but Lautaro is very likely to overtake both Cruz and Adriano, I'd say already in the group stages though.

 

[brehme1989]

14 goals only is shockingly bad for Inter. Milan's top goalscorer has 29 goals while Juve's has 42 goals. Hopefully Lautaro corrects that.

We haven't featured as much in the CL in the early years and we were only regulars for like 8 seasons in a row and we hardly had a striker appear for more than 2 seasons for us*. Then another 8 without CL and playing against tougher groups.

The inflated scoring numbers mainly come from Bayern, Real and Barcelona in the late 2000s to late 2010s and the lack of the mid-tier teams in the last 15 years due to Platini's disaster plan, completely ruining the sport and widening the gap between top and middle and top to bottom.


Most CL goals for one club:


All these guys have featured in more than 10 CL editions and guys like Salah have played in a watered down era where his team can casually pounce 5-0 a team that 15-20 years ago would probably get a point from their time's Liverpoool.

Messi and Cristiano just don't make sense


*Ronaldo half a season really in 1998-99
Milito 2.5 seasons?
Eto'o 2 seasons
Adriano 2.5 seasons?
Vieri 3 seasons but not consecutive iirc and the 3rd was past his prime
Cruz maybe 4 seasons, but as a rotation player mostly
Crespo 3 seasons, but with a break. And his first season he wasn't always there.

Lautaro probably has 5 seasons with this one but he wasn't the main striker apart from the last couple of seasons.

 

[Nero Indigo]

We haven't featured as much in the CL in the early years and we were only regulars for like 8 seasons in a row and we hardly had a striker appear for more than 2 seasons for us*. Then another 8 without CL and playing against tougher groups.

The inflated scoring numbers mainly come from Bayern, Real and Barcelona in the late 2000s to late 2010s and the lack of the mid-tier teams in the last 15 years due to Platini's disaster plan, completely ruining the sport and widening the gap between top and middle and top to bottom.


Most CL goals for one club:
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All these guys have featured in more than 10 CL editions and guys like Salah have played in a watered down era where his team can casually pounce 5-0 a team that 15-20 years ago would probably get a point from their time's Liverpoool.

Messi and Cristiano just don't make sense


*Ronaldo half a season really in 1998-99
Milito 2.5 seasons?
Eto'o 2 seasons
Adriano 2.5 seasons?
Vieri 3 seasons but not consecutive iirc and the 3rd was past his prime
Cruz maybe 4 seasons, but as a rotation player mostly
Crespo 3 seasons, but with a break. And his first season he wasn't always there.

Lautaro probably has 5 seasons with this one but he wasn't the main striker apart from the last couple of seasons.

I remember this especially because I wanted Vieri to do well in the CL. But he wasn’t able to replicate his league and national team form in the CL, mostly due to injury and like you said going past his prime. We were just not consistently appearing in the CL enough in the past to get some of these scoring numbers IMO

 

[brehme1989]

Yeah just consider that Vieri's prime at Inter was 1999 to 2003.

We played in CL in 1998-99 with Ronaldo (before Vieri)

Then we had Lippi who failed to get us through the groups and lost to Helsinborg...
Our next appearance was in 2002-03 and that's when we started being CL regulars (more CL spots became available and it also was the start of the fall of Fiorentina, Parma, Lazio and other CL spot rivals)

So Vieri played in 2002-3, but missed the semis vs Milan, although Crespo was our main threat.
He played in 2003-4 in a disastrous campaign. And he participated a bit when Adriano was here in 2004-5.

So our best scorer of the 21st century barely played in 3 CL campaigns.
Our second best scorer in Icardi, played in just 1 and had 4 goals in 6 games.

10 years of CL football in a row was shared between an on-off Vieri, an Adriano that had 2 good seasons, a Zlatan that played in just 3 seasons, Milito for 3 seasons, Eto'o for 2 seasons.


Shevchenko played CL football for Milan for 6 years in CL, all of which in his prime. They missed CL only once where we could have played them in the Uefa Cup final but we both lost our semi

There were also more games for a 3-4 year period with the 2nd group stage. So a max of 17 games were available, now we're at 13 games max. We missed out on that era apart from one season in 2002-3.

Juventus on the other hand played in CL in every season from 1995-96 until 2005-6, with the exception of 1999-2000. That's a lot of games for Del Piero and Inzaghi to rack up the goals.

If you also look at Barcelona, you'll also see how it pales. You have Messi with an alien 100+ goals but the next in line is Luis Suarez with 25. In an era where they never missed CL.
Then it's Rivaldo with 22, Neymar with 21, Kluivert with 20, Luis Enrique with 19 and Eto'o has just 16 CL goals with them. And Pique has as many CL goals as Ronaldinho with Barcelona at 14!
Rivaldo 6 seasons in a row in CL.
Kluivert 4 seasons in a row in CL, all with a 2nd group stage.



CL historical numbers are not really comparable, you have to do a comparison according to era and type of tournament we had.
Early 1990s to late 90s, different game.
Late 90s to early 2000s, different game.
Mid 2000s to late 2000s, different game.
Early 2010s to late 2010s, different game.
Now, once again, a different game. The monetary gap is just too vast. It was growing in the previous "phase", but it's just so much easier now for "superteams" to form and just beat everyone with ease, so Haaland and Mbappe can probably surpass the two previous freaks.

 

[Nero Indigo]

Yo I didn’t even know about that Eto’o and Ronaldinho stat. That’s crazy but I can also kind of understand it because everyone from the midfield upwards used to score consistently on that team. Still, with their level of talent I honestly thought they scored way more than that.

 

[wera]

What are our Europa League/UEFA cup best goalscorers?

 

[IM21]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1705503805075542484

 

[brehme1989]

What are our Europa League/UEFA cup best goalscorers?

Should be Altobelli

 

[forzainter257]

14 goals only is shockingly bad for Inter. Milan's top goalscorer has 29 goals while Juve's has 42 goals. Hopefully Lautaro corrects that.

yeah that's embarrassing. To improve this, we need to keep Lautaro for 10 years, i.e. until he retires, and it goes without saying, we should never miss CL anymore. If he scores 5 goals on average he may end up having over 60 goals which would get us close to the biggest clubs.

 

[M.Adnan]

Yeah just consider that Vieri's prime at Inter was 1999 to 2003.

We played in CL in 1998-99 with Ronaldo (before Vieri)

Then we had Lippi who failed to get us through the groups and lost to Helsinborg...
Our next appearance was in 2002-03 and that's when we started being CL regulars (more CL spots became available and it also was the start of the fall of Fiorentina, Parma, Lazio and other CL spot rivals)

So Vieri played in 2002-3, but missed the semis vs Milan, although Crespo was our main threat.
He played in 2003-4 in a disastrous campaign. And he participated a bit when Adriano was here in 2004-5.

So our best scorer of the 21st century barely played in 3 CL campaigns.
Our second best scorer in Icardi, played in just 1 and had 4 goals in 6 games.

10 years of CL football in a row was shared between an on-off Vieri, an Adriano that had 2 good seasons, a Zlatan that played in just 3 seasons, Milito for 3 seasons, Eto'o for 2 seasons.


Shevchenko played CL football for Milan for 6 years in CL, all of which in his prime. They missed CL only once where we could have played them in the Uefa Cup final but we both lost our semi

There were also more games for a 3-4 year period with the 2nd group stage. So a max of 17 games were available, now we're at 13 games max. We missed out on that era apart from one season in 2002-3.

Juventus on the other hand played in CL in every season from 1995-96 until 2005-6, with the exception of 1999-2000. That's a lot of games for Del Piero and Inzaghi to rack up the goals.

If you also look at Barcelona, you'll also see how it pales. You have Messi with an alien 100+ goals but the next in line is Luis Suarez with 25. In an era where they never missed CL.
Then it's Rivaldo with 22, Neymar with 21, Kluivert with 20, Luis Enrique with 19 and Eto'o has just 16 CL goals with them. And Pique has as many CL goals as Ronaldinho with Barcelona at 14!
Rivaldo 6 seasons in a row in CL.
Kluivert 4 seasons in a row in CL, all with a 2nd group stage.



CL historical numbers are not really comparable, you have to do a comparison according to era and type of tournament we had.
Early 1990s to late 90s, different game.
Late 90s to early 2000s, different game.
Mid 2000s to late 2000s, different game.
Early 2010s to late 2010s, different game.
Now, once again, a different game. The monetary gap is just too vast. It was growing in the previous "phase", but it's just so much easier now for "superteams" to form and just beat everyone with ease, so Haaland and Mbappe can probably surpass the two previous freaks.

Good points, and I also wonder if Inter's inconsistency to qualify for the CL because it was tougher to compete in Serie A (atleast before its downfall) than places like La Liga and Bundesliga where it was almost guaranteed for Real, Barca and Bayern to qualify. Probably favored those clubs' goalscorers.

 

[Nothing]

Good points, and I also wonder if Inter's inconsistency to qualify for the CL because it was tougher to compete in Serie A (atleast before its downfall) than places like La Liga and Bundesliga where it was almost guaranteed for Real, Barca and Bayern to qualify. Probably favored those clubs' goalscorers.

Also because of referees and Calciopoli. Watching inter that time was very frustrating.

 

[brehme1989]

What are our Europa League/UEFA cup best goalscorers?

So I managed to make up the Top 10 list:
1) Alessandro Altobelli 21 goals
2) Aldo Serena 11 goals
2) Rodrigo Palacio 11 goals
4) Roberto Bonninsegna 10 goals
4) Maurizio Ganz 10 goals
6) Karl-Heinz Rummenigge 9 goals
6) Dennis Bergkamp 9 goals
8) Nicola Berti 8 goals
9) Alvaro Recoba 7 goals
9) Romelu Lukaku 7 goals

Vieri, Ronaldo, Matthaus, Liam Brady and Momo Kallon have 6 goals.

From modern players, ironically Livaja is the next in line with 4 goals, as many as Guarin has

Uefa Cup also saw a lot of evolution and its final form had a mini group stage where you played 4 teams once. Then Europa League became a CL imitation.

We played 11 games to win the 1998 edition and it took 12 games for the first two because the final was over two legs.

We played only 6 games in 2020 because of covid. Would have been 9 games under normal circumstances. Add 6 group games, and you'd need 15 games to win the Europa League now instead of the 11-12 it took for Uefa Cup originally.


Altobelli also has the most Cup Winners Cup goals, with 10. Next has 3 (Carlo Muraro)

And Sandro Mazzola has 17 goals in the European Cup, followed by Jair with 11.

 

[IL Fenomeno]

14 goals only is shockingly bad for Inter. Milan's top goalscorer has 29 goals while Juve's has 42 goals. Hopefully Lautaro corrects that

who cares about this stat tbh? what matters most is silverware

 

[Adriano@10]

14 goals only is shockingly bad for Inter. Milan's top goalscorer has 29 goals while Juve's has 42 goals. Hopefully Lautaro corrects that.

shows how poor we have been in europe tbh.....
Like the fact that adriano and cruz are top tells you everything.. No disrespect to them but Vieri should really be in the top there bu we missed or sucked most of the years in UCL when he was here...

 

[M.Adnan]

who cares about this stat tbh? what matters most is silverware

It a stat that indicates a combination of our inconsistencies to regularly play in the CL, advance in the competition and being able to keep our prolific goalscorers.

Forget about goals scored. Inter players with top appearances in the CL are as follows in order:

Zanetti
Cambiasso
Cordoba
Stankovic
Julio Cesar
Materazzi
Maicon
Samuel
Toldo
Lautaro Martinez

Yes, Lautaro is Inter's striker with most appearances in its CL history. Second is Julio Cruz which says alot.

 

[IM21]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1706958717864866009

 

[pupivn]

As much as we need to sell big names every summers, I like that we have some core players staying for long time, not just for stability on field but it gives connection to team for younger fans, they more attach to players than older fans.
He’s our main star now and been here longest, you might not like his consistency but he is growing like true leader.

 

[IM21]

needs to be rested.

 

[CoolMan44]

Yup, he looked off the pace most of the match.

 

[Ethor]

Teams may finally realize that he's Inter's only "star" in attack , control him and then let Thuram and company try to beat you. It also helps if your players are young and fast because you can probably beat Inter's defense probably 6 times a match with very decent chances.