Liverpool - Inter (19 Feb 08)

[minterke]

I didnt say we are calciopolizing SERIEA, stop trying to be a drama queen.

No but you were certainly implying it. If you had said "we received 1 or 2 lucky calls in our favor" then okay,

but "with all the refereeing decisions we are getting" you make me wanna puke

 

[snake]

azz you are sounding like an absolute fool and that is ANYBODY that agrees with you. ONE game a season does NOT justify you calling our midfielders shit or lacking compared to milan etc. we've smashed milan, what..3-4 times in a row now?

we have dominated italy and our midfieldrs have been superb. Cambiasso is in the form of his life. You dont get ****ing juded on one bad game. if that was the case, then nobody in this world would get a game.

 

[Azzkikr]

Its not one game you fool, its ever single away game in europe. And like i wrote, Serie A isnt europe, you need a different approach, but you and mancini apparently dont get that, hence the ridiculous result.

I think i explained it quite good, so i dont understand this silly attack.

I didnt say the midfielders are shit, i said they are all the same, they have the same strengh/weaknesses and they all suck under pressure, which is completely true.

Try reading the entire post before you speak boy, it helps, and you might actually learn something.

 

[snake]

ive read it all and even more. the bit about our game that you posted in materazzi's thread was probably your best. Your standpoint their of our 'approach' is totally correct, however sayign that these midfielders arent capable is just wrong.

Stick with the former, not the latter.

 

[Azzkikr]

They obviously arent, or else we wouldnt still a be complete joke in the CL despite mancini's 4 years of dominating serie a and in every single year doing horible away performances in europe due to a below average midfield.

You cant play 4 dm/cm's in the CL who all have average speed/passing and arent particuarly good with the ball and hence panics under pressure.

Its as simple as that, you need different types in a midfield, not 4 who basicly has the same attributes.

 

[Adam]

azz you are sounding like an absolute fool and that is ANYBODY that agrees with you. ONE game a season does NOT justify you calling our midfielders shit or lacking compared to milan etc. we've smashed milan, what..3-4 times in a row now?

we have dominated italy and our midfieldrs have been superb. Cambiasso is in the form of his life. You dont get ****ing juded on one bad game. if that was the case, then nobody in this world would get a game.

Actually, he has a very good point. Our midfielders are great when defending and closing down space but all have too similar qualites. Going forward they are nothing compared to Milans players.

Look at Fener, Valencia, Sporting, Liverpool, Bayern etc. Are you gonna tell me those matches were lost because our forwards somehow blew it? I doubt it. When Milan lose it's because their forwards can't convert the multiple chances that their mids have created. We lose when our midfielders can't create enough chances for our forwards. They don't have the technique to pass the ball quickly when under pressure, and therefore end up hoofing the ball forward. I know this very well because this is exactly what the Swedish NT does when faced with a superiour team.

Cambiasso is great in both aspects, but he's the exception. We need more players who can dribble the ball, hold it up and pass it forward.

 

[snake]

you named 5 games. compared to 2 seasons of dominance. I dont care if you say they're not the same thing/calibre cause i think thats BS.

Our approach was wrong, Yes. But to say our players just dont have it in them cause of this too similar or not good enough shit, i just wont buy it.so let it go.

 

[Vic]

I agree with Hal, I think our midfiled is great we just need a Diego, or someone to hold the ball. Capitano can not do it all by himself!

Gosh I hate the arrogange from the pool supporters!

 

[Adam]

you named 5 games. compared to 2 seasons of dominance. I dont care if you say they're not the same thing/calibre cause i think thats BS.

Our approach was wrong, Yes. But to say our players just dont have it in them cause of this too similar or not good enough shit, i just wont buy it.so let it go.

Compare Milan's midfielders goalstats, assiststats and most imortantly passes going to attack in good positions, to ours and it would be a shocking difference. Not to mention their midfielders step up when it really matters.

Anyway, I don't care if you agree or not but I think it's evident we need atleast one or two skillfull midfield players in the summer.

 

[minterke]

Or at least play Jimenez or Figo instead of Stankovic who has the on the ball skill of Steven Hawking.

 

[nzinter]

Actually, he has a very good point. Our midfielders are great when defending and closing down space but all have too similar qualites. Going forward they are nothing compared to Milans players.

Look at Fener, Valencia, Sporting, Liverpool, Bayern etc. Are you gonna tell me those matches were lost because our forwards somehow blew it? I doubt it. When Milan lose it's because their forwards can't convert the multiple chances that their mids have created. We lose when our midfielders can't create enough chances for our forwards. They don't have the technique to pass the ball quickly when under pressure, and therefore end up hoofing the ball forward. I know this very well because this is exactly what the Swedish NT does when faced with a superiour team.

Cambiasso is great in both aspects, but he's the exception. We need more players who can dribble the ball, hold it up and pass it forward.

you are absolutly correct i agree 100%

 

[nzinter]

I think moratti is going to have to make big name signings and if we do than we will succeed in europe but 4 now maybe if we beat liverpool and another team and get into the semis i would be satisfied

 

[Alex de Large]

obviously inter need a attacking midfielder, i don't care if it's diego, quaresma, or someone else, but somebody who is young, and have the talent, azz is right about our midfielders, they are hard-workers, consistent players but no one can create, cambiasso is a great dm, vieira should go from this team, figo is old and jimenez should go, we only need a good attacking midfielder, dm position is ok with chivu, zanetti, cambiasso, stankovic and pele.

 

[Hammoudi]

you named 5 games. compared to 2 seasons of dominance. I dont care if you say they're not the same thing/calibre cause i think thats BS.

Dominating whom? Siena and Parma? Oh, actually we didn't even domiante them, we just win by individual brilliance. Go back and check most of our last games and most of the comments would be 'boring' 'worse game so far this season' and 'we were dominated.'

Don't take an average Serie A with an incosistent Roma, clean Juve and weak old AC as a yardstick.

 

[snake]

alex. Tell me, what good would one of those players be yesterday? You could of had the worlds best creative player, but if he doesnt touch the ball what good is he!?!? we didnt have posession, we couldnt do 2-3 passes, so how is this 'diego' or whatever going to do anythign if he doesnt touch the ball (look at ibra).

The way we played the game yesterady was wrong. it wasnt the players.

Don't take an average Serie A with an incosistent Roma, clean Juve and weak old AC as a yardstick.

FYI, AC milan are world champions and just recently won the CL if i remember correctly. Also, many people here compare our midfield negatively to them. So using them as an example was good i believe, and our midfield (yes our very own!!) smashed them the past 3-4 times. problem wasnt the players yesterday, it was the way they played.

 

[Alex de Large]

alex. Tell me, what good would one of those players be yesterday? You could of had the worlds best creative player, but if he doesnt touch the ball what good is he!?!? we didnt have posession, we couldnt do 2-3 passes, so how is this 'diego' or whatever going to do anythign if he doesnt touch the ball (look at ibra).

The way we played the game yesterady was wrong. it wasnt the players.



FYI, AC milan are world champions and just recently won the CL if i remember correctly. Also, many people here compare our midfield negatively to them. So using them as an example was good i believe, and our midfield (yes our very own!!) smashed them the past 3-4 times. it wasnt the players, it was the way they played.

then you should blame mancini like azz is doing, is he who tells the team how to play and what tactics use in every moment, and liverpool is not the best team in the world, they are not even a top5 right now, it's not fair to say they dominated cause they are much better than inter.


about win serie a without competition i don't agree, at this point roma have almost the same points barcelona have in spain, they close to real madrid cause we have more points than madrid and thats all, everybody knows juventus can't win without they're best player, who is moggi, milan is too old and don't have a squad to do something serious in serie a, and roma is a decent rival to me, they will not win the league but they will finish with 72/78 points wich is a good record.

 

[Edlaut]

Another great diver is growing up. The successor of Nedved and Inzaghi

 

[Ajesh]

Wow.The last thing we needed was discussion of the so called "Calciopoli -II" now.
To show you the perspective Inter would have been more than competitive against Pool if Mancini treated it just another match match in Serie A.
We are beating BBilan for two years now,had routed Roma in Rome this year now,our literally Primavera side beat Juve,we have regularly and ruthlessly beaten the rest of the Serie A for two years now.Now if people can raise doubts about credibilty of this Inter side i dont know what to say then.

 

[Vic]

.... so how is this 'diego' or whatever going to do anythign if he doesnt touch the ball (look at ibra).

Mate players like him can hold the ball look for a foul and take the pressure off, I know Jimenes can do that, aswell as Figo but they seem to be followed by injuries. Diego was just a name thrown out of the hat.

I do agree we did not have the appropiate attituide to the game and it costs us as we could not stop the pressure on our defence which helped the ref be fooled in the end.

I am a dreamer even if it hurts! *Wearing the INTER shirt*

 

[Azzkikr]

you named 5 games. compared to 2 seasons of dominance. I dont care if you say they're not the same thing/calibre cause i think thats BS.

Our approach was wrong, Yes. But to say our players just dont have it in them cause of this too similar or not good enough shit, i just wont buy it.so let it go.

You seem to have a hard time understand that there is a big difference between CL games and serie a games. Yes we dominated serie a, but we have been a complete failure in the CL in all of mancini's years. I refuse to believe that you are that stupid that you actually think its mere coincidence that we always get hammered and dont create a single chance in the european away games.

Because its not, its because our midfield isnt skillfull enough to handle the constant pressure there is in away games in the CL. The players are too similar in strengh/weaknesses like ive said 10 times now.