Luka Topalović

[.h.]

I can't remember if we were planning to have a B team for next season already. Probably a year on loan will be good & the season after, squad rotation between B/A teams

 

[.h.]

Sorry there is today an FCIN article suggesting we are hoping for next season. That'd be exciting.

 

[JJM]

This boy is something else...he was already good af at 17 in our first division .He needs a step up from primavera as soon as possible

 

[wera]

Why soon as possible? It's not like he is Kovačić level. He is good, but I don't believe he is currently better than Asllani and that guy doesn't even start for us most of the time. Let alone Frattesi and Zielinski.

He needs to be loaned out for a year and that will show if he is really ready for us. In the meantime he can toughen up. I do really like how good his passes are.

Playing games for NT would also help.

 

[JJM]

U-23 squad Sherlock Wera

 

[wera]

Well obviously we don't have a U23 yet, it was too dubious how you wrote it.

 

[CafeCordoba]

These kids won't see the first team anyway in few years. They can still be very potential and promising.

 

[Gaindé]

Hard to get excited about any young player to be honest, we don't really have a plan for Topalovic, Berenbruch or any of them.

 

[.h.]

Hard to get excited about any young player to be honest, we don't really have a plan for Topalovic, Berenbruch or any of them.

The plan is to see how they perform this year for the rest of the season and then make an appropriate judgement call based on that. What's wrong with that?

We have six midfielders in the squad already, space is limited at best

 

[Gaindé]

The plan is to see how they perform this year for the rest of the season and then make an appropriate judgement call based on that. What's wrong with that?

We have six midfielders in the squad already, space is limited at best

Yes, exactly. And I'm sure, whaetever happens, Topalovic could litterally tear every team in the primavera league a new one, at the end of the season if Frattesi or Asllani or another midfielder leaves we're going to sign a new one from another team before thinking about Topalovic.
It will be a Ricci in the best of cases, probably more a Frendrup or a Pobega.

 

[.h.]

Because there's a big gap between primavera and first team?

We used to have players like Bessa, Crisetig who looked amazing at primavera level but couldn't even clean the boots in Serie B first team

Unless he is wonderkid level, then he should go on loan or B team to develop

 

[JJM]

We will have a u-23 team next season so put him in that and then see if he can grow good enough for the first team. It exactly what was missing for us till now. Cuz all those damn loans can be an annoying process...

 

[satubito]

Plusvalenza or inclusion in a future deal. Nothing more.

 

[Il Drago]

Because there's a big gap between primavera and first team?

I have read this argument so many times on this forum. It still doesn't explain how while our kids are competitive against kids of other top footballing nations, they see their colleagues getting chances instantly at the top tiers while they have to start from Serie C.

Something doesn't add up.

 

[.h.]

I have read this argument so many times on this forum. It still doesn't explain how while our kids are competitive against kids of other top footballing nations, they see their colleagues getting chances instantly at the top tiers while they have to start from Serie C.

Something doesn't add up.

okay, lets turn that around, what do you think the story is then? When our kids go out on loan, until recently, most of them dont even break into Serie B teams. Its not unheard of for Inter players to go out on loan, bench a couple of times, then never be seen again for the season. It's only recent few seasons where we've been a bit more diverse with our loans that our players are getting more game time.

If thats not a comment on the quality of the kids, then I dont know.

Maybe we over-index on building a team that plays well, rather than individual talents that are capable of adapting in different scenarios and standing on their own two feet? Pure speculation.


I'd say... Aleksandr Stankovic is probably the only kid in recent years who has left the Primavera and gone straight into a top league team and actually impressed the coach enough to play regularly? Even Fabbian had a season of Serie B before going up to A?

Even Valentin Carboni, wonderkid extraordinaire rated at 40m, didnt play regularly at Monza last year.

 

[Il Drago]

okay, lets turn that around, what do you think the story is then?

It's simply a matter of mentality in this country. Coaches are afraid to use youngsters or unwilling to "waste time" to develop them. A youngster needs to be far superior than any experienced player to get a chance. And if they make mistakes they're very likely to be dropped over an experienced player.

Stankovic got his chance in Switzerland. Different case.

So it's just Carboni, the most hyped kid in recent years and one that the club values at 40m.

It's quite telling that top clubs have to create U-23 teams for their youngsters to get consistent playing time.

It isn't an Inter problem. Heck it isn't even exclusively a Serie A problem. It's an Italy problem.

Sadly for Italian football, rest of the footballing world has evolved into trusting youngsters. Only Italian coaches are stuck into the old ways of experience over youth. You would think the constant failures of Italy NT in international competitions would have hit alarming bells that there's time for a change. But no. They stubbornly stick to "the Italian way".

 

[RotterdamNerazzurri]

I'd say... Aleksandr Stankovic is probably the only kid in recent years who has left the Primavera and gone straight into a top league team and actually impressed the coach enough to play regularly? Even Fabbian had a season of Serie B before going up to A?

Zanotti did. Stankovic, Oristiano and Mulatierri did also (altough not in a top League). Satriano did well from the beginning at Brest. Agoumé almost never played for Spezia but did play 30 leauge games for Brest the next one. Gnonto also did play from the start at Luzern (?). Also Facundo Colidio and Zinho Vanheusden played from the start in Belgium.

Sadly it has to do a lot with the mentallity in Italy. Although it’s explainable, Italy is the worst place to develop for youngsters. I think we can better loan our players abroad than in Italy.

 

[.h.]

Zanotti did. Stankovic, Oristiano and Mulatierri did also (altough not in a top League). Satriano did well from the beginning at Brest. Agoumé almost never played for Spezia but did play 30 leauge games for Brest the next one. Gnonto also did play from the start at Luzern (?). Also Facundo Colidio and Zinho Vanheusden played from the start in Belgium.

Sadly it has to do a lot with the mentallity in Italy. Although it’s explainable, Italy is the worst place to develop for youngsters. I think we can better loan our players abroad than in Italy.

Satriano has never done well

My point is those are all B/C level teams, realistically.

But I do agree re loaning then out, I think it's a lower pressure environment.

 

[RotterdamNerazzurri]

Satriano has never done well

My point is those are all B/C level teams, realistically.

But I do agree re loaning then out, I think it's a lower pressure environment.

He played a lot at Brest tho. Didn’t they even want to redeem him? But Satriano refused?

Not only the pressure. The whole environment is better (honestly everywhere if you compare it to Italy).

 

[.h.]

He played a lot at Brest tho. Didn’t they even want to redeem him? But Satriano refused?

Not only the pressure. The whole environment is better (honestly everywhere if you compare it to Italy).

No idea, but the barrier for me is "are they potentially or actually able of getting to a level that may interest Inter" to which the answer is No. As is true for almost everyone in your post mentioned.