Marcelo Brozović

[Candreva Crosses]

I've started playing football again the last couple of months. I haven't had a game in probably about ten years, guess some members here were like me and man, you have no idea how dumb you become on the pitch when you're tired. Decision making and precision go out the window real fast. So yeah, this helps me understand the brain farts Brozo has from time to time - as everyone knows he is playing literally every minute for half a season now and even pros probably wear down. If not physically then at least psychologically. He's the last person who I'd blame for subpar performances, considering the amount of heavy lifting he's doing in midfield for us.

You didn't know this before you started playing football again?

 

[brehme1989]

You didn't know this before you started playing football again?

The power of the couch is too strong.

 

[Candreva Crosses]

The power of the couch is too strong.

Just shows the knowledge of this forum tbh

 

[Wobblz]

You didn't know this before you started playing football again?

I haven't experienced it first hand to know exactly how much it affects you, yes. One thing is speculating about something another is knowing it for a fact. I'm a fan of the latter.

Not to mention that even professional football players are absolutely clueless when it comes to having any idea about football in general. Great players like Stoichkov and Maradona are laughable coaches, just to name a few.

The power of the couch is too strong.

I've been lean, without any sports, my whole life. I do wonder tho, do you yourself play any football, cause you sure sound like an armchair general.

Just shows the knowledge of this forum tbh

Like Sunday league football is applicable to professional football... Have you ever even played on a proper football field? Are you some kind of a pro or something? Fucking wanker.

 

[JJM]

SHOULD HAVE ACQUIRED more midfielders in the summer...poor planning of the season and squad from the mgmt and Conte,I don't fucking care about FFP,should have made a profit from Icardi,Perisic,N9,this loans are fucking stupid...we gained little to nothing with them...show of force?! yeah that we have to play same players over and over and then they make mistakes...and 10 fucking injuries...this isn' bad luck at such a number anymore.

it's INCOMPETENCE ALL AROUND!
but yeah we are a miracle for fighting with Rube at this point...some great work Conte did...I can't deny...from a coaching position,fucked up a bit in CL...but in Serie A we are doing great

Brozo needs an alternative...Borja and Sensi can play there...shame that they are now injured ,but then we need wide midifelders...Gags and Vecino are mediocre...Barella please comeee back! That Agoume is green af still...
We need Kulusevski,the kid is awesome! I'd get two midfielders tbh, one like Torreira or Allan still...we shall see what the mgmt can do

oh and Wooblz...yes when you are tired in football you make mistakes,but Brozo is pro and you well aren't...on that level every tiny mistake can be a crucial one...fine margins there...yeah he is overplayed but also...he is a robot for running...but then again he isn't some smart regista like Pirlo either.He starts to crumble...in most decisive moments,him fucking up a simple pass isn't Vecino or some other guys fault...he takes too many touches and then loses the ball...he isn't an average player but not a really top top one either...maybe he can get there but,i doubt it.Well if we get better players around him,we don't even need him to be Pirlo.

 

[Candreva Crosses]

I haven't experienced it first hand to know exactly how much it affects you, yes. One thing is speculating about something another is knowing it for a fact. I'm a fan of the latter.

Like Sunday league football is applicable to professional football... Have you ever even played on a proper football field? Are you some kind of a pro or something? Fucking wanker.

Why get so mad? You state something so dumb and you don't expect responses?

 

[brehme1989]

I've been lean, without any sports, my whole life. I do wonder tho, do you yourself play any football, cause you sure sound like an armchair general.

Not just football. Basketball, tennis and other random stuff. Not as much as in the past, but still quite active. Fitness levels not as great as I'd hope though my personal trainer says I'm far better off than what my complaints about my physical condition suggest.

I find it odd that people who engage in football fandom and even random conversation aren't active in the sport or weren't as kids. I've come across several people who have started following the sport after they turned 15 or whatever and had zero experience even in their backyards. We used to be out playing football (or other sports, but mostly football) for at least 4 hours a day back in the day. Then with the 5x5 pitches that were sprouting in every corner it became more 'official' so you'd have to play for an hour each time with no break in a rather demanding environment.

Also, you don't need to be part of a football club at some young age to know the game. But definitely at least kicking it about from a young age gives you a better perspective. You can combine that with any sort of group activity [be it a work environment or some random boyscout trip] to understand more about the game and the group dynamics.

Personally I hate sitting down and I'm almost always up even if I need a couple of days a week to just sit the fuck down. I rather work using my phone whilst on the elliptical machine [have a couple of these in various places, including work place and bedroom] than sitting down in an office waiting for shit to happen. And yes, I'm a pain in the ass when I see people wasting time by fixing their hair or trying clothes on therefore in order to avoid confrontation, I literally walk it off... My average is like 25k steps a day but that's with the ellptical machine cheating its way there So I can relate with Brozovic to an extent

You don't need to run to get tired and feel off though. Stress is another factor. Anyone I guess can relate with that (maybe not me that much as I'm always zen mode with zero expression of emotions as everyone around me says, with my 68bpm during work according to my Fitbit confirming that). Many things can make your mind not be present. Running like crazy for 1.5 hours is just another one of them, especially when you have other people running towards you which adds more stress.

 

[Wobblz]

Why get so mad? You state something so dumb and you don't expect responses?

What is dumb about my statement? Please, elaborate.

I'm sharing a fact - that it is much easier to sit on your ass and comment, without really knowing how a player might feel than putting yourself in his shoes and cutting him some slack. Those are humans after all, just like me and you. Then I'm adding a personal story to make it easy even for a dumb fuck like yourself to fully comprehend what I'm trying to say. And then here you are, condescendingly commenting on what I posted... "didn't you know that before".

No, I didn't "know" it before... You have to do stuff yourself to fully understand that nothing is as easy as you think - it is way easier to just sit on your ass and complain how other people can't do things the way you imagine they should be done. It's the same mindset that produces the famous "I could've scored that" and it is deplorable.

@Brehme, agreed dude, but note that I said that I haven't kicked a ball in nearly ten years. I'm 31... it's not like I wasn't playing when I was a kid. But I never played football on a proper football pitch, I doubt many of us did and I'm pretty sure, somehow, that's it is an entirely different game. So yeah, it's not like we played the same sport even. Basketball is the same, tennis is the same, volleyball is the same, professional football isn't.

 

[brehme1989]

@Brehme, agreed dude, but note that I said that I haven't kicked a ball in nearly ten years. I'm 31... it's not like I wasn't playing when I was a kid. But I never played football on a proper pitch, I doubt many of us did and I'm pretty sure, somehow, that's it is an entirely different game. So yeah, it's not like we played the same sport even. Basketball is the same, tennis is the same, volleyball is the same, professional football isn't.

I know. The comment was general, not directed to you.

I did play in a proper football pitch at a young age at a u15 level and an amateur level (too extreme) and I can tell you that the 5x5 is probably a more tiring activity. Maybe it's due to the age factor that I'm saying this as I have more recent recollections of 5x5 than back in the day where I'd play during the same time as the other two categories. You get to run more distance as the pitch gets bigger, but the shorter the pitch, the more sudden your moves are. That's highly demanding on your upper body (core mostly, which is also how your abs get destroyed and you get to relate with Sensi's injury) as well as your knees and ankles. It's similar to playing a full court basketball game where you have to run up and down all the time, whereas on the contrary a 3x3 basketball game in half court is a piece of cake in comparison.

As for your comparisons, assuming you mean that there's a bigger difference between pro football and 'casual' football in relation with pro basketball and 'casual' basketball. I think I'll disagree, which we can elaborate in another thread. But I'll concede the fact that a pro player that looks like shit most times (ie Gagliardini) would make a fool out of a game with 9 people you rate highly in 'casual' 5x5 football of your choice. Heck, that could apply with a Lega Pro player as well. For fitness in general though, each player has his own limits. Brozovic perhaps exceeds his own which explain why he has some stupid mistakes frequently. He runs relentlessly and maybe he has to. Maybe he doesn't have to. He definitely has to find the right balance.

 

[Candreva Crosses]

What is dumb about my statement? Please, elaborate.

I'm sharing a fact - that it is much easier to sit on your ass and comment, without really knowing how a player might feel than putting yourself in his shoes and cutting him some slack. Those are humans after all, just like me and you. Then I'm adding a personal story to make it easy even for a dumb fuck like yourself to fully comprehend what I'm trying to say. And then here you are, condescendingly commenting on what I posted... "didn't you know that before".

No, I didn't "know" it before... You have to do stuff yourself to fully understand that nothing is as easy as you think - it is way easier to just sit on your ass and complain how other people can't do things the way you imagine they should be done. It's the same mindset that produces the famous "I could've scored that" and it is deplorable.

@Brehme, agreed dude, but note that I said that I haven't kicked a ball in nearly ten years. I'm 31... it's not like I wasn't playing when I was a kid. But I never played football on a proper football pitch, I doubt many of us did and I'm pretty sure, somehow, that's it is an entirely different game. So yeah, it's not like we played the same sport even. Basketball is the same, tennis is the same, volleyball is the same, professional football isn't.

For me that has been involved in different sports growing up it's clear that being tired will affect you. And this is not sportwise but mentally too in different areas in life. I thought every human being older than 6 new this. Maybe its just in my country.

 

[Wobblz]

I'm mostly referring to the size of the pitch. Most sports are being played by amateurs and pros on virtually the same pitches, you just need the same amount of players and you're playing the same game, more or less. Whereas in football a five-a-side pitch is like a fourth of a full-sized pitch at best and this makes everything quite different. As you pointed out - movement, positioning, passing, the space you have to work with, etc. Hell, even the goal is smaller. It's a different game.

 

[Lui]

If not for this unexpected injury crisis, our squad had solid depth. Cant really say the planning in the summer was poor when there were players we could not sell. Every team not named barcelona would struggle if they lost their sensi, barella, alexis. And what better players wouldve agreed to terms as back-ups for back-ups

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[Demenza Senile]

For me that has been involved in different sports growing up it's clear that being tired will affect you. And this is not sportwise but mentally too in different areas in life. I thought every human being older than 6 new this. Maybe its just in my country.

KNEW.

Human beings older than 6 need to know that too IN ALL COUNTRIES. Grammar Police on the prowl yo!

 

[wera]

It was just a mistypo probably, most of us are typing on small phones with elephant fingers.

 

[Howl]

If his injury is serious we are fucked. I just hope to god it doesn't mean that we now have to keep Vecino instead of selling him because I'd rather just play literally anyone else instead of that brainless fuck.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Yeah, interesting to see what what we are going to do if Brozovic's injury is worse than few games. He is still the heart of that midfield. I've criticized him relatively lot (though always respecting at the same time), but at the moment we also cannot play without him.

 

[IM21]

He is walkimg with crutches.... we are fucked... Finish the fucking Eriksen deal now!!

 

[YoramG]

Lmao and now we need 2 midfielders if he’s injured. Christ, when it’s bad it’s fucking awful.

 

[ElDuccio]

that is incredibile, unbelivable.... i swear this is ridicolous if were not closing the Eriksen deal next week. Fuck man, fuck.

 

[Jnr]

What the hell happened with Brozo? Missed it completely