Mercato Team (Ausilio, Marotta, & Co.) and Strategies

[wera]

Nainggolan was an example of a player we got from the same league that exuded no passion to play for us at all. So no-passion-itis is also contractable in Serie A, not just the Saudis.

Passion, character, style - those are all fine words/concepts. But what I want most from a footballer is him understanding his role and being a hard worker - this is how you build teams. Also I love to see them trying to win every game even when it's 2-0 for the opponents in the 88th minute. It's always doable

 

[CafeCordoba]

But the claim was never that all the players in other than Saudi leagues do have passion. The claim was players going to Saudi league don't have passion.

 

[brakbrak]

No passion.

 

[wera]

But the claim was never that all the players in other than Saudi leagues do have passion. The claim was players going to Saudi league don't have passion.

And I'm saying that saying players in the Saudi league can still outplay players playing in Europe. Passion doesn't make you a good footballer, whoever wants to play for passion, he can go play in the second slovenian league for no wages.

 

[CafeCordoba]

And I'm saying that saying players in the Saudi league can still outplay players playing in Europe. Passion doesn't make you a good footballer, whoever wants to play for passion, he can go play in the second slovenian league for no wages.

No one has said that either.

The claim is players going to Saudis (for the money, obviously) has lost a bit of passion for the game. Mostly talking about players not at he last years of their careers (let's say age 33+), but players who could have got still a decent contract in European football.

 

[brehme1989]

No one has said that either.

The claim is players going to Saudis (for the money, obviously) has lost a bit of passion for the game. Mostly talking about players not at he last years of their careers (let's say age 33+), but players who could have got still a decent contract in European football.

There is no passion in the game, period.

You think people play for teams like, Manchester City, United, Chelsea or Arsenal for passion?
Those are soulless clubs and ironically City is the most vibrant of the lot...

Barcelona's Nou Camp has become a tourist hub and Real Madrid has kicked out all hardcore fans so what exactly do these players have to be passionate about?

You want passion, even PSG has that feeling and passionate vibes, yet you (plural) cry when a players moves there as if they're simply mercenaries.
Half of Ligue 1 has more passionate than all tiers of English and Spanish football combined..
You want passion, check out most of Italy (aside from shit, soulless clubs like Chievo or Sassuolo), check out Germany, or go to the Balkans, central Europe or the Netherlands. Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay, Colombia... even in Asia.

Why do you think the PL shows more passion than the Saudi league? I'm genuinely curious.
At x3 the salary it's no contest that someone will move there, let alone x10... its only for a couple of years anyway.

I don't get this conversation. How does a player display passion for the sport by moving to Arsenal for example? Such a zero adrenaline destination...

 

[wera]

A bit of passion =/= the passion has gone away

Like I'm saying, passion is not what makes the professional footballers wake up and stay in football, it's money. Money will be prioritized most times.

Also, this Brehme comment sounds too much "how the fans feel" and not how players actually act. If players from the Balkans played for passion, the better players wouldn't run to a better league like Serie A/La Liga/Bundesliga/EPL the first chance they can. Sure they have more character than other Europeans (just like South American players do), but I wouldn't call it passion. Or better yet, they have less passion than it seems.

Fans have passion. Players have contractual obligations and agents that want to get them better wages.

Money is king. If it wasn't, Modrić would stay in Croatia. Perišić too. Kovačić. Brozović.

Money is king. Oscar could've stayed at Brazil, or he could've stayed at Chelsea. He didn't.

 

[brehme1989]

Exactly @wera

The issue is that fans conflate their own passion for a club with how a player should feel or react.

When Icardi said that he doesn't care much about football and doesn't watch at home, people got aroused because it sounded alien. This guy was living my dream but doesn't care? Wasting it and so on.

This is because most people have an epidermic relationship to the sport via betting or video games or at best case scenario, highlights, and think that they can get the feeling of this environment.

I dealt with players (and agents and families) professionally for several years and I can tell you for a fact that most don't give a rat's ass about any passion the fans display. Especially those PL guys I work with/for. It's all about the money, the easy good life and having less pressure to succeed.

Which is why Italian football is lagging with the last couple of generations. They still have the bug of having the pressure to succeed.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Strawman arguments flying around left and right. NO ONE has said money doesn't dictate what players do. Passion is a factor, SPECIALLY in Italy where Inter happens to locate.

 

[Il Drago]

If we can't distinguish the difference between playing for Real Madrid at the highest level and playing at a low level league in Saudi Arabia, China, MLS or any other exotic league then it's pointless to discuss it even further.

 

[wera]

Ask a pro from Real Madrid if money is important to him and if he says no, tell him to play for 2k euros per week and see what happens

 

[El Matador]

Not sure if anyone brought this up but if we sold Hakan for a combined 105M

Used 60M of it on Bento and Buongiorno.
Used the remaining 45 on a midfielder and a striker

Would you do it?

If so who would we realistically get as a striker and midfielder?

 

[Dave54]

We can’t even sell him for 50-60.

 

[El Matador]

We can’t even sell him for 50-60.

I personally wouldn’t. It’s not worth it.

Why are we breaking up the most functional department in our team. We have a team that’s competitive and he is a player thats integral to it. You won’t find a player like him. The system works why are we changing it?

Barella, Hakan, Bastoni should be untouchable. They are essential to how we play. I can’t say the same for everyone else.

 

[Dave54]

It was an answer for 105 million sale.

 

[ADRossi]

Not sure if anyone brought this up but if we sold Hakan for a combined 105M

Used 60M of it on Bento and Buongiorno.
Used the remaining 45 on a midfielder and a striker

Would you do it?

If so who would we realistically get as a striker and midfielder?

There's no chance we reinvest 100% of the funds.

 

[IM21]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1805279951844766038

 

[El Matador]

There's no chance we reinvest 100% of the funds.

There’s that as well.
That’s why im completely opposed to selling him

 

[varmin]

Nicola Iliev is such an idiot. Typical young Bulgarian, who is thinking only for money. Last year he went in CSKA, only because they offered him a higher salary than everyone else. Now, Botev will match his earnings at Inter.
No desire or urge for development. Money, clubs and girls.

 

[Corrode]

Nicola Iliev is such an idiot. Typical young Bulgarian, who is thinking only for money. Last year he went in CSKA, only because they offered him a higher salary than everyone else. Now, Botev will match his earnings at Inter.
No desire or urge for development. Money, clubs and girls.

Atleast he get longer contract and higher starter XI chance at Botev rather than getting endless loan treatment from Inter.