Mercato Team (Ausilio, Marotta, & Co.) and Strategies

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Still, I wouldn't say Raiola is wrong. Inter is a bit in a disorganized state. We need to wait and see how the Chinese will do.

This first calciomercato is a first step for them.
 

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Still, I wouldn't say Raiola is wrong. Inter is a bit in a disorganized state. We need to wait and see how the Chinese will do.

This first calciomercato is a first step for them.

Gabriel Jesus feat. Joao Mario - Made In China

them pilot song ;)
 

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Done deals like a pro, boys
 

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"According to CalcioMercato.com there is a meeting between Erick Thohir and Roberto Mancio took place at Portland where Thohir reportedly told Mancini to focus on young players who can have a long term future at the Nerazzurri club rather than focusing on 30+ age players. Though the Club management believes Mancini is the right man for the Job but still there were no further contract talks between them. It is understood that Mancini will have another meeting with Suning group representatives in New York."

Mancini being told the obvious.
 

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"According to CalcioMercato.com there is a meeting between Erick Thohir and Roberto Mancio took place at Portland where Thohir reportedly told Mancini to focus on young players who can have a long term future at the Nerazzurri club rather than focusing on 30+ age players. Though the Club management believes Mancini is the right man for the Job but still there were no further contract talks between them. It is understood that Mancini will have another meeting with Suning group representatives in New York."

Mancini being told the obvious.

That would be the "obvious" if it comes with "we don't mind if it take 2-3 years to qualify for the CL"... you cannot say lets focus on kids and also compete with the likes of Napoli and Juventus. But this is Inter, we want a youth project but expect them to play like veterans from day 1. Fucking disaster waiting to happen.
 

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That would be the "obvious" if it comes with "we don't mind if it take 2-3 years to qualify for the CL"... you cannot say lets focus on kids and also compete with the likes of Napoli and Juventus. But this is Inter, we want a youth project but expect them to play like veterans from day 1. Fucking disaster waiting to happen.

We don't need young players though, someone between 25-28 should be looked at imo.

I always see these as the categories for players when buying them (note this is just me and these obviously vary in different scnenarios but a general rule of thumb):
18-20 age range - Wonderkid may or may not develop *Risky*
21-24 age range - developing players, although there can be some very experienced players in this category e.g. Pogba, Veratti etc. *Less Risky*
25-28 age range - developed players, either in their prime or about to be. *Safe*
29-32 age range - Still in their prime or just out of it, likely high salary, unlikely going to be able to sell this guy in a few years *Risk but instant reward*
32+ age range - I don't want a player of this age at Inter (when purchasing at least) *Err what?*
 

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That would be the "obvious" if it comes with "we don't mind if it take 2-3 years to qualify for the CL"... you cannot say lets focus on kids and also compete with the likes of Napoli and Juventus. But this is Inter, we want a youth project but expect them to play like veterans from day 1. Fucking disaster waiting to happen.

But mancini resist to play gnukouri even in the last meaningless match against Sassoulo....
That is being said, we failed to qualify for the CL and at the same time fail to develop our young players....
I assume a good coach like klopp can achieve both. or a good coach like mou can push one side to the extreme....
I mean, some coach spent 80M last season and achieved none of these, and still not happy with others.....
 

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'Inter aren't scared of Juve'
By Football Italia staff

Inter's Piero Ausilio says that 'he's not scared by Juventus' but admits the deal for Lazio's Antonio Candreva is difficult.

The sporting director was intercepted by the Press today as he boarded the plane that would take him to the United States, where his team is currently based.

“Juve were already strong and they reinforced themselves with some great players,” Ausilio admitted to FcInterNews.it. “But I'm looking within our own walls. I'm not scared by the fact that Juventus signed Higuain. We know we're lacking something, but also that we signed many good players.

“There's a negotiation ongoing for Candreva, and nobody ever denied it would be a pleasure to have him. The problem is our economic distance.

“[Lazio president Claudio] Lotito named a price, while we're starting from a different premise. But there's an open negotiation and if the economic conditions allow for it, then the deal will be done.

“[Manolo] Gabbiadini isn't part of our plans. [Domenico] Berardi has been a closed option for a month and a half, ever since Sassuolo closed their doors.

“Inter are only thinking about reinforcing the team. We want to buy rather than sell, especially not our best players to our direct rivals.

“And as we've been saying for months there's the Financial Fair Play regulations. We can only name 21 players for the Europa League and we've got 25-26. Some of them will be leaving, and the players know that.

“From here until August 21 we'll try bringing into the team this player we're working on, then we'll see.”
 

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Branca will handle this thing with smooth and elegance, ausilio lack of sweet talk like branca did.
 

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'Inter aren't scared of Juve'
By Football Italia staff

Inter's Piero Ausilio says that 'he's not scared by Juventus' but admits the deal for Lazio's Antonio Candreva is difficult.

The sporting director was intercepted by the Press today as he boarded the plane that would take him to the United States, where his team is currently based.

“Juve were already strong and they reinforced themselves with some great players,” Ausilio admitted to FcInterNews.it. “But I'm looking within our own walls. I'm not scared by the fact that Juventus signed Higuain. We know we're lacking something, but also that we signed many good players.

“There's a negotiation ongoing for Candreva, and nobody ever denied it would be a pleasure to have him. The problem is our economic distance.

“[Lazio president Claudio] Lotito named a price, while we're starting from a different premise. But there's an open negotiation and if the economic conditions allow for it, then the deal will be done.

“[Manolo] Gabbiadini isn't part of our plans. [Domenico] Berardi has been a closed option for a month and a half, ever since Sassuolo closed their doors.

“Inter are only thinking about reinforcing the team. We want to buy rather than sell, especially not our best players to our direct rivals.

“And as we've been saying for months there's the Financial Fair Play regulations. We can only name 21 players for the Europa League and we've got 25-26. Some of them will be leaving, and the players know that.

“From here until August 21 we'll try bringing into the team this player we're working on, then we'll see.”

then we'll panic like fuck and sign the first players available to us, inter style
 

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If you read the full interview with Ausilio, he basically said we're pursuing Candreva and selling a few players (but not Icardi) and shouldn't expect much more than that.
 

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If you read the full interview with Ausilio, he basically said we're pursuing Candreva and selling a few players (but not Icardi) and shouldn't expect much more than that.
So we can expect what

Handa
Ansaldi-Miranda-Muri-Erkin
Candreva-Medel-Kondo-Perisic
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Icardi

Still Medel our DLP?! :palm:

I'd rather play Brozo in RM in stead of buying Candreva and rather splash on Biglia in stead of watching Medelo torment us with his exquisite footwork!!!
 

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Still Medel our DLP?! :palm:

I'd rather play Brozo in RM in stead of buying Candreva and rather splash on Biglia in stead of watching Medelo torment us with his exquisite footwork!!!

I agree with you. A player like Biglia is more important for us than a RW (eg Candreva). But ideally, we need both if we want to mount a serious challenge for the Top 3.

But mancini resist to play gnukouri even in the last meaningless match against Sassoulo....
That is being said, we failed to qualify for the CL and at the same time fail to develop our young players....
I assume a good coach like klopp can achieve both. or a good coach like mou can push one side to the extreme....
I mean, some coach spent 80M last season and achieved none of these, and still not happy with others.....

Giving a coach 80-90m to spend is very different from telling him that he can only spend whatever he makes from sales of players. Inter made money from transfers last season, that is not investing. Moreover, I don't think Mancini had a completely free hand of who he could buy last summer - no manager does in Italy... Yaya Toure is one example. Whether Inter made the right call or not on an out of contract Yaya last summer, that is debatable. But for sure Yaya would have contributed more than what K-dog did - who knows whether that was the difference between 3rd and 4th spot? Marcotti (or was it Di Marzio?) had mentioned a story of what is wrong at Inter - apparently the first name on Mancini's wishlist last summer was Dybala, and Inter were the first to make an offer... but there was a few million gap between Inter's offer and Palermo's demand. The time it took Mancini to convince Inter management to increase their offer, Juve had already swooped in and paid the asking price. I don't know whether this is true or not, but it does sound like Inter unfortunately.

But you are right, I don't think Mancini is here to develop young talents. He is the wrong manager for that. He is here to achieve results, and for that he needs his type of players. A few Inter managers have been frustrated with this confused strategy - how many times we have heard "either you ask me to develop players, or ask me for results"... sadly, with our limited budgets thats an either/or choice - its unrealistic to expect both... but Inter management seems to lack the conviction to commit to one strategy. I think thats the crux of the impasse between Inter and Mancini today.
 

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But you are right, I don't think Mancini is here to develop young talents. He is the wrong manager for that. He is here to achieve results, and for that he needs his type of players. A few Inter managers have been frustrated with this confused strategy - how many times we have heard "either you ask me to develop players, or ask me for results"... sadly, with our limited budgets thats an either/or choice - its unrealistic to expect both... but Inter management seems to lack the conviction to commit to one strategy. I think thats the crux of the impasse between Inter and Mancini today.

I think this is the problem at our hands at the moment. It's indeed either/or. We are STILL paying the price for the hastiness of Moratti. He just couldn't start a new project, ever. It was the same thing with Thohir all along. He was here just to streamline (and made some cash for himself in the process). So here we are now with the Chinese, who want to only invest in young players and build a good organization for the long term. Problem is that Thohir as a president expects CL football as soon as possible. At least with Mancini, it clearly is not possible with this team so he demands reinforcements. But reinforcements are not young players (because young reinforcement players cost 50m a piece) which are what the owners want.

So there is the contradiction.
 

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Also comes from official channel, @Inter_Channel the news that in New York (coming Zhang Jindong) important decisions will be taken!

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I think this is the problem at our hands at the moment. It's indeed either/or. We are STILL paying the price for the hastiness of Moratti. He just couldn't start a new project, ever. It was the same thing with Thohir all along. He was here just to streamline (and made some cash for himself in the process). So here we are now with the Chinese, who want to only invest in young players and build a good organization for the long term. Problem is that Thohir as a president expects CL football as soon as possible. At least with Mancini, it clearly is not possible with this team so he demands reinforcements. But reinforcements are not young players (because young reinforcement players cost 50m a piece) which are what the owners want.

So there is the contradiction.

The issue is that our long term project starts by balancing our books and the most efficient way is getting back to Champions League (and those 30-40m per year).

Every year we fail to qualify for CL is another shitty sell-before-buy mercato.
 

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Number 1 reason behind Juve's growth in the last 5 years is CL money+the mercato year they had Pirlo, Vidal, Vucinic and Lich.
 

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I think this is the problem at our hands at the moment. It's indeed either/or. We are STILL paying the price for the hastiness of Moratti. He just couldn't start a new project, ever. It was the same thing with Thohir all along. He was here just to streamline (and made some cash for himself in the process). So here we are now with the Chinese, who want to only invest in young players and build a good organization for the long term. Problem is that Thohir as a president expects CL football as soon as possible. At least with Mancini, it clearly is not possible with this team so he demands reinforcements. But reinforcements are not young players (because young reinforcement players cost 50m a piece) which are what the owners want.

So there is the contradiction.
Its not like Suning don't want CL and only Thohir wants it. CL is a must, a goal stated by everyone in our hierarchy.
 

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Number 1 reason behind Juve's growth in the last 5 years is CL money+the mercato year they had Pirlo, Vidal, Vucinic and Lich.

Remember the players they had before the 11/12 season when they brought in your four mentioned players. Their philosophy back then was similar to what some users in here want us to do as they thought the way to get the club up and running most efficiently was by investing in already proven players.

Tiago (27), Luca Toni (33), Quagliarella (27), Mellberg (31), Amauri (28), Poulsen (28), Grosso (31), Salihamidzic (30), Iaquinta (28), Grygera (27) and Andrade (29) were some of their high-profile signings. The result was zero scudettos in this period (07 to 11) which seemed to make them transform their scouting into players like these;.

Bonucci (23), Vidal (24), Lichtsteiner (27), Asamoah (24), Pogba (19), Isla (24), Coman (20), Morata (21), Dybala (21), Zaza (24) and Alex Sandro (24). They did as well sign a number of older players like Pirlo and Evra on free transfers, but my point is that the players we regard the most in their team are the ones they brought in and developed a bit by them self. It concludes that it is possible to qualify for CL and win the league at the same time as you have a focus on the development of your players.
 

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Nah, it's they Hire Cunte as The biggest factor they got back to Scudetto. When they coached by Ranieri, del Neri, Ferrara, Zaccheroni, they were complete joke :awwyeah:
 
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