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Those are made-up names.

I posted just above about hearing teens talking football. Just the other night I heard some Man Utd fan say he would rather have Greenwood than Mandzukic or Higuain :lol: Fuck me. Worst part is that the guy was about 30. Doesn't even have the excuse of being a kid.

In a way it's a good thing that I'm noticing a definite increase in footballing interest in this god-forsaken country. Compared to 5-10 years ago there are tons of people walking around wearing football jerseys of various teams. You can often overhear dudes talking about CL in bars etc. But Jesus Christ are some of these cunts stupid.

Its been my pet peeve at FIF for a while. Some guys here always want Inter to sign kids, and write off the value of experience. We won the treble because we signed a lot of quality experience - players like Milito, Eto'o, Lucio, etc. A squad needs both, a good mix of experienced players and young talent. At the mo, our squad is a bit light on this experience.
 

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Yeah, we won the treble and then ended up with a shitload of past-it overpaid stars that were basically impossible to sell. The start of this club's recent downfall. We aren't anywhere near the level in which we should invest in experience in order to win, we're midway through our cycle. That's optimistically speaking, cause until last summer we were faced with yet another year-zero for god knows how long now. Let's first continue building a decent and competitive core with more players like Skriniar, Sensi, Barella, Lukaku, De Vrij etc. 24-27 year olds and then and only then add the missing pieces and experience for that final push after a couple of years when we're nearing the end of this Inter's iteration.
 

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We are in this mess because of what happened in 2011 (January and summer), not due to the Treble. In fact, we are in this position because we did not capitalize on that humongous triumph.

If we had given Rafa the two players he wanted (Mascherano and I forgot the other guy, it was not Kuyt) we'd be in a much better position by 2012 when downhill was inevitable.
Also because they changed the rules at the final hour and our Hernanes transfer was blocked.
 

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Our downfall was inevitable because the economic fashion in which the club was being managed was misguided and unsustainable. Signing Mascherano would not have changed that.
 

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Report: Marotta meets with Raiola as Inter consider €50m Donnarumma bid


Rivals Inter are considering making an offer for AC Milan goalkeeper Gianluigi Donnarumma, according to a shock report.

Donnarumma’s future is far from straightforward. He is currently on a deal which expires in 2021, and widespread reports have claimed that Milan have no intention of letting that enter the final 12 months.


The 20-year-old currently earns the most out of any Milan player at €6m-a-year (as per La Gazzetta dello Sport), and it has been suggested that Elliott Management are not keen on raising that figure.

MilanNews.it recently reported that the 20-year-old’s situation has become an attractive prospect for possible suitors and worrying for Milan’, with Juventus mentioned as interested.

Now though, Calciomercato.it are reporting that Inter are closely watching the situation as they look for a long-term successor to Samir Handanovic.

The outlet even claims that Nerazzurri director Beppe Marotta met with Mino Raiola to discuss the situation of Donnarumma.

An assault will not be easy though, but Inter could apparently land Donnarumma with an offer of €50million while offering a pay rise to the player to convince him to make the controversial move.
 

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Our downfall was inevitable because the economic fashion in which the club was being managed was misguided and unsustainable. Signing Mascherano would not have changed that.

Actually Benitez wanted to refresh the team with younger players
 

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Well, you could argue that the economic hit of Italy was the catalyst more than anything, but our outlook would have looked better if we had class players in a good age. Maybe we could have sold him to Barcelona after a couple of seasons and get better talent.

Moratti had also sort of given up which made things even more difficult.
 

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We were just a backwards-run company play-toy thing that went through an inevitable restructuring phase that being competitive in the modern day requires. But yeah, going there again, willingly and so soon would be foolish to put it mildly. Juve are going there, hopefully, instead of getting the Ramsey's and Rabiot's of the world they could go after the Barella's and Sensi's, but nah. It's the "we need names for the sake of names" mantra that also hides underneath the "get epxerienced players so we can win" argument. There are also plenty of good to great players on low wages in their prime, 24-27 and we should go after those and not the likes of Rakitic. Bargains such as Sanchez are somewhat okay but then again if it was a given he'd do great he wouldn't be a bargain to begin with, so I'd rather not take that risk more often than necessary. I mean, there's no serious club in Europe left that is after the "experienced" players, virtually all clubs are splashing insane cash right now for the youngest and freshest possible players that could both serve them a couple of years and then be resold, even for profit or at a minimal loss most of the time. But yeah, that strategy generally takes skill, which we lacked until now. Hope Marotta's work thus far wasn't a fluke and he really is the type of Director that can turn a ship with the right moves, both technically and economically, unlike the people that brought Mario and Gabigol to this club for record breaking deals...

By the way the last experienced player to work out for us was J. Miranda, even Godin and Sanchez are disappointing thus far, so we'll see.
 

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Football these days is all about building your brand and then we have investors from USA, China and Middle-east who want to find different ways to earn income.
 

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The problem with "experienced" players lies in something Wobblz said. Indirectly though since the reason is clearly financial and not a sporting one.

Teams NEED to be able to sell their players. This is the absurdity that the FFP has brought. If you cannot sell a player, his transfer becomes almost completely redundant.

Before FFP teams would look to maximize their chances of winning. Now it is bad advice to go for a player who will help you over 2 seasons.
Juventus would currently be suffering from this if laws applied to them. That Cristiano signing killed their books and FFP should destroy them if they don't make at least 3 big sales in the January window or at most before the end of season in late June. And on a sporting level, that's as good a transfer as it gets.

If we signed Rakitic, Lewandowski and Modric for example last summer we'd be one of the best teams in Europe. But at the same time, due to FFP, we'd have to sell important players to "balance the books". I mean, I'm not entirely against that, but the way it is structured defeats the purpose most times.

There are better ways to sort club finances and even more ways to ensure fairer competition. Now it has just enabled a closed system where those who were already in remain in unless they shoot off their heads.
 

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Yeah, but they cheat with these Jeep deals and all those capital injections in the middle of the season.
 

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Donnarumma is the move we need to do to finally destroy Milan, if we don't get him, Juve will.
We know Handanovic will not last forever.
Best scenario, sign Donnaruma this summer and loan him 1 season to Parma. Then in 2021-2022 we have both keepers to fight for the spot, a very old Handanovic and a prime Donnaruma.

Also Milan is so useless doing transfers they will waste the 50 millions buying trash like Kessie.
 

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Yeah, but they cheat with these Jeep deals and all those capital injections in the middle of the season.

If it falls within that UEFA threshold of ownership injection, then it's not that different from Suning doing it. But I doubt Juventus plays it within the rules.

Agnelli bends his will against UEFA with his ECA position. He feels invincible there and also in a position to threaten them that he will dissolve the Champions League to form his own competition. UEFA is fearful of that.
 

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Damn. Getting Donnarumma and having a Toldo/Julione situation with him and Handanovic would be great.

Is there any other of Raiola’s clients we could be interested in though?
 

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Donnarumma is the move we need to do to finally destroy Milan, if we don't get him, Juve will.
We know Handanovic will not last forever.
Best scenario, sign Donnaruma this summer and loan him 1 season to Parma. Then in 2021-2022 we have both keepers to fight for the spot, a very old Handanovic and a prime Donnaruma.

Also Milan is so useless doing transfers they will waste the 50 millions buying trash like Kessie.

Donnarumma? Why we sign him? With his high wage and transfer fee? We already got a young promising keeper on loan at Parma I believe.

Who was that Brazilian GK who we signed last year and sent on loan?
 

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Donnarumma? Why we sign him? With his high wage and transfer fee? We already got a young promising keeper on loan at Parma I believe.

Who was that Brazilian GK who we signed last year and sent on loan?

If you're referring to Brazao, we have sent him to Albacete on loan this season and he doesn't play at all. Typical move for an Inter youngster. :troll:
 

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I think we cannot compare Donnarumma and Brazao. :D

We can compare Donnarumma and Radu. The first one wins there also, but at least they both are young and play in Serie A as starters.

Handa has still maybe 1-2 years after this one. Donnarumma COULD be an option next summer as his contract runs out in 2021. But that would a bit of a slap in the face for Handanovic as we wouldn't buy 40-50m€ goalkeeper to be in a rotation.
 
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