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RCB/LCBs beside defending need to offer something going forward. While Bastoni does that as LCB, Skriniar offer almost nothing in that regard. Tbh it's quite awkward seeing him marching forward. So from that point of view we're not using him, or better to say that position, in the correct way either.
You divert the duties of defending which my post was about to make it about attacking. This is centerback positions we're talking about. Skriniar will be wasted at de Vrij's position no matter how bad you make him up to be at attacking. There's a reason Hakimi had such adventures on the right flank and Skriniar is one of the biggest reasons.

With someone as good as Bastoni on the left and Skriniar on the right we even afford to have the likes of Ranocchia between them which is why I find it much easier to find a replacement for de Vrij's position instead of Skriniar's/Bastoni's
 

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You divert the duties of defending which my post was about to make it about attacking. This is centerback positions we're talking about. Skriniar will be wasted at de Vrij's position no matter how bad you make him up to be at attacking. There's a reason Hakimi had such adventures on the right flank and Skriniar is one of the biggest reasons.

With someone as good as Bastoni on the left and Skriniar on the right we even afford to have the likes of Ranocchia between them which is why I find it much easier to find a replacement for de Vrij's position instead of Skriniar's/Bastoni's
When we talk about the duties of a RCB/LCB we can't ignore one part of their duty and focus solely on the other part. Whether we like it or not these positions move forward to help the attack and Skriniar is very much limited in that regard, no matter how defensively solid he is. Inzaghi won't ask Skriniar/Bastoni to just defend because they're CBs, nor they march forward by themselves because they're bored!

How Skriniar gets wasted in De Vrij position? That's his natural position; something which RCB is not.
 

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Yeah you right but I'm curious to see how we made that judgement as Fiorentina doesn't play in a back 3 right? I like him as a defender but haven't see him play to much.
Milenkovic made a name, playing exactly as RCB in the three man defense. Since Fiorentina have switched to 2 CB, the quality of his game has dropped, therefore his value did. I still believe that he can recover his form, if plays as RCB again.
 

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Ginter on a free would be great as long as it doesn't mean one of our starting cbs is sold. Else, we would be back to square one in terms of squad depth.

I prefer Frattesi over Nandez and i don't see the point of signing both of them. Our signings in midfield should be Frattesi/Nandez and a creative CM to challenge Hakan.

I am ok with Digne only if Inzaghi is desperate for a lwb in January and it's a loan move without obligation. Else, i would rather wait till summer to sign Kostic.
We have vecino + vidal expiring in June. Sensi probably leaving + gags expiring 2023.

Makes sense to get cm depth.
 

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Perisic + Dimarco is more than good enough for the left side, but I guess if Dimarco gets injured Kolarov becomes first choice for either LWB or LCB. Probs a good idea to cover ourseves.
Dimarco apparently is Bastoni's sub now and Kolarov is mainly a PR guy, trying to convince a replacement (ie Kostic) to join Inter.

I'm not sure if we can get Kostic without having to sell Perisic, we're probably going to get a quick fix loanee that won't feature as much as he or his team would hope.

I'm guessing we'll end up with Alex Telles or some PSG left back on loan.
 

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Yeah, it def looks like that if the rumors are true about LWB hunt for us. Digne seems likely to go to Chelsea now that Chillwell goes to a surgery and his season is over.

About the De Vrij discussion, we need to remember the renewal. Raiola is probably looking at least 6m€ net (there were rumors of 4.5m€ net demand which sounds almost absurd to me) and I think we aren't willing to give De Vrij that. This is not about improving the team, this is about finances. Without limitless resources, squad building is always about finances too.

So we "swap" De Vrij for Bremer but halve the salary cost (and we also generate nice plusvalenza for the fiscal year in the process). These are simply things we probably need to be doing in the foreseeable future.
 

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Yeah, it def looks like that if the rumors are true about LWB hunt for us. Digne seems likely to go to Chelsea now that Chillwell goes to a surgery and his season is over.

About the De Vrij discussion, we need to remember the renewal. Raiola is probably looking at least 6m€ net (there were rumors of 4.5m€ net demand which sounds almost absurd to me) and I think we aren't willing to give De Vrij that. This is not about improving the team, this is about finances. Without limitless resources, squad building is always about finances too.

So we "swap" De Vrij for Bremer but halve the salary cost (and we also generate nice plusvalenza for the fiscal year in the process). These are simply things we probably need to be doing in the foreseeable future.
Regarding the last part, and that’s probably the most integral part, Bremer at the moment doesn’t at all look like a downgrade to De Vrij’s current level.

I understand the people worrying about selling our best players because of finances, but this isn’t solely what this is about to me.
Yeah sure, if we sell De Vrij and bring in Izzo as his replacement, the optics would be close to ubearable and solely because of economic constraints.
But selling a thirty year old De Vrij for a hefty sum and bringing in someone who’s already as good as Bremer is at twentyfour for a lower sum is what shrewd management does - whether or not you have deep pockets.
As has been greatly lamented throughout the years, we chose not to cashout on at least one of Sneijder/Milito/Maicon (my personal choice) after the Triplete, and promptly saw their financial and sporting value plummet.

Now, if we sell De Vrij and bring in someone that’s clearly inferior (I’d say Ginter or Luiz Felipe, even if he’s totally free, are in that category), I’d panic greatly as well, because then this maneuver is exclusively because of (a lack of) funds.

But Bremer is the real deal, and even great players have to be replaced at some point.
 

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It's clear that Inzaghi views Dimarco as more of a LCB than a LWB.
I think this is obvious based on the rumours and even Inzaghi's quotes about the areas we need reinforments. The strange thing for me is the level of players we're linked with. If Inter are just looking for a Perisic backup you would expect to read names like Biraghi, Kurzawa (God forbid :yao: ), Hickey, Parisi etc. Not names like Kostic and Digne. It seems like to me we're looking for post Perisic from now or perhaps we want to put pressure on him for the extension.
 

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When we talk about the duties of a RCB/LCB we can't ignore one part of their duty and focus solely on the other part. Whether we like it or not these positions move forward to help the attack and Skriniar is very much limited in that regard, no matter how defensively solid he is. Inzaghi won't ask Skriniar/Bastoni to just defend because they're CBs, nor they march forward by themselves because they're bored!

How Skriniar gets wasted in De Vrij position? That's his natural position; something which RCB is not.
That's really not his natural positions. Not any position of the 3 back line formation is his natural position, what the hell are you talking about?

We can't ignore them you are correct but we could talk about which duty is the most important. We could also talk about his talent getting wasted in de Vrij's position but I won't repeat myself on the comments I had. I've already explained and also why it would be easier to replace someone on de Vrij's position which also should be in the equation.

Myself I like Skriniar going forward on that RCB position, he is really dangerous on the long shots whenever he gets the chance.
 
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i am afraid inter will become average club after being linked to so many average players and players that nobody wants even if they are bosman contract. and other thing that concerned me is always looking in top 7 leagues for recycled players. ginter is good good physical athletic player that is needed in modern football but other targets are just meh, scramacca good but inter needs to go to untaped markets to get some players
 

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the problem is everyone thinks unproven players = lautaro, skriniar, whatever

in reality, the vast majority of unproved players will be Botta, Jonathan, etc.

Untapped markets arent untapped because they're a wealth of footballing expertise that no one knows about, they're untapped because most of their players are shit.

I dont trust any situation where we are relying on our scouts to do a good job
 

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That's really not his natural positions. Not any position of the 3 back line formation is his natural position, what the hell are you talking about?
Yeah, central defence is not a central defender's natural position. What the hell was I thinking?! 🤌
 

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the problem is everyone thinks unproven players = lautaro, skriniar, whatever

in reality, the vast majority of unproved players will be Botta, Jonathan, etc.

Untapped markets arent untapped because they're a wealth of footballing expertise that no one knows about, they're untapped because most of their players are shit.

I dont trust any situation where we are relying on our scouts to do a good job
modric came from bosnia/croatia league others from serbia league eastern europe has talent. s america and n america has tlent it is not just brazil/argentina
 

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I'm sure we have scouts who spend most of their time looking at Eastern Europe, but so does every other club.

You have to assume football is 'efficient' - the bigger clubs with bigger budgets are far more capable of finding raw talent than we are - the only ones we've pulled out of the bag imho in recent years are Lautaro and Bastoni, but for pretty much everything else they were known players on the up already.

We arent going to build a top class team just fishing in those ponds, not to mention non-EU etc issues.
 

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Scouting might be "efficient", but after that, most of the time it's not efficient. And more about luck and million other variables, if a talented player "makes it" or not.
 

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I mean efficient in the idea of the stock market - e.g. any player on our radar has probably been extensively scouted by other teams already
 
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