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No,It was Conte's request. He wanted Vidal not Tonali,if he wanted Tonali,Tonali would come. No Vidal,no Conte. They wanted Conte to stay and they brought Vidal. Marotta and Ausilio basicaly finished job with Tonali.And then they backed off. And thats it. Next season Conte wanted more,but Suning was in total colapse,and could only sell our best players and bring second tiers,so Conte run like chicken.
We were already in total collapse. Do you think conte would refuse such a large investment? No way. He would have wanted both players. After this meeting the rumours started about Suning trying to sell us and being broke.
The project had changed. That was entirely obvious.
 
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We were already in total collapse. Do you think conte would refuse such a large investment? No way. He would have wanted both players. After this meeting the rumours started about Suning trying to sell us and being broke.
The project had changed. That was entirely obvious.
And thats why Cunte wanted Vidal,he thought Vidal would bring him immediate succes,which happened that season,but Vidal was not a big contributor to that succes. He didnt want Tonali cause he was risk at that time,Cunte wanted scudetto that year and didnt want to risk with Tonali,so they brought him Vidal. Cunte knew already that he'll leave this club after that season. And now we can watch Tonali becoming one of the best Italian midfielders playing for Bbeelan,being already crucial for their scudetto(high possible),meanwhile brainwashed tik toker Vidal is out this summer. Totaly wasted oportunity. Like with Ninja.
 

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And thats why Cunte wanted Vidal,he thought Vidal would bring him immediate succes,which happened that season,but Vidal was not a big contributor to that succes. He didnt want Tonali cause he was risk at that time,Cunte wanted scudetto that year and didnt want to risk with Tonali,so they brought him Vidal. Cunte knew already that he'll leave this club after that season. And now we can watch Tonali becoming one of the best Italian midfielders playing for Bbeelan,being already crucial for their scudetto(high possible),meanwhile brainwashed tik toker Vidal is out this summer. Totaly wasted oportunity. Like with Ninja.
If covid didn't hit Suning as hard as it did, or however Suning got in this financial mess, I'm sure conte, tonali etc would still be here.
Sure he wanted vidal. There's no doubt. But if you think he was going to resign in that August meeting because the management was signing kumbulla and tonali it's just wrong.
It's been said so many times, we had a project that totally changed, leading to that meeting in August 20 after europa league final. We had to cancel buying those players and end the season with a 60m+ net transfer balance.
 
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If covid didn't hit Suning as hard as it did, or however Suning got in this financial mess, I'm sure conte, tonali etc would still be here.
Sure he wanted vidal. There's no doubt. But if you think he was going to resign in that August meeting because the management was signing kumbulla and tonali it's just wrong.
It's been said so many times, we had a project that totally changed, leading to that meeting in August 20 after europa league final. We had to cancel buying those players and end the season with a 60m+ net transfer balance.
But if Conte wanted Tonali instead Vidal we would get Tonali. Thats the whole point.
 

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In our deal for kumbulla there were 4 players involved in the deal?? Who were they?

I've no doubt conte would have wanted vidal as well anyway. He already had. Kolarov had never been mentioned though. It's clear that again, the project had changed and the direction was from Suning. Do you think we'd have went ahead and basically sealed tonali without Contes approval in the first place?
No, I was talking about Roma's deal with Verona. It was to show you that both Brescia and Verona were happy to accommodate favourable terms.

As for the 2nd part, maybe management gave him the choice between Vidal and Tonali and he chose the veteran.
 

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That one goal against Juve was enough to make up his high salary?! That's an odd way to rate someone, specially when that someone is one of the highest earners in the squad and he's not even a starter for the club.

Radja also scored against Juve and that crucial goal against Empoli which sealed the CL spot for us. How does that not make up for what he cost us?
Relax bro 😂

There is a thing called ”humor” and thats why put 😉 emoji (a tongue in cheek).

I think your comment was little naive and cheeky so I reply 😁

All seriousnes we paid Roma what 45m and lost Zaniolo in the process + severance payment worth around 1.5 million euros… and Radja had drinking problem and affected the whole club morale/feeling that seems pretty bad for me!

Vidal cost us 1m + wages and he will leave without severance payment, if I’m not wrong? He has been useful when he has come in the field and have been professional. He was also Conte reguest and if we had missed Vidal it might have affected Conte mood and whole team and scudetto? Of course we all hoped Vidal to have bigger influense at field and he was good at Barca… but now we know he has not been his best and age got him!

But he is one peace off scudetto winning team, supercoppa winner and coppa italia winner and I have respect to all those players who participated in that! Conte also had used Vidal in his system and thats why its was easy choise for him to pick him instead of Tonali…

Radja trophys/honours

”Zero tituli”

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Vidal trophys/honours

Colo-Colo[136]

Juventus[136]

Bayern Munich[136]

Barcelona[136]

Inter Milan

Chile[136]

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I put those stats to point out couple of things. Usually if you have that many honours you have done something right and usually you can ask bigger salary? And can you imagine young players like Barella, Bastoni, Skriniar, Lautaro, Esposito… see player like Vidal ”world class star” who has won almost everything and is/was one of the best players in their position and now you can play/train with him… he give you encouragement and tips and you want to impres him with your skills… who you have seen in the tv to play those biggest games at our time… and then you see drunk Radja sleeping with Spalletti in the training ground? What a role model we have here…

So Radja was a cluster fuck if you compared him to Vidal! Vidal also played at Juventus and thats why it was special when he scored against them and we also ended Juventus scudetto run and they did not get that 10 scudettos in a row… that is huge thing! Its called ”rubbing salt to the wound”… Radja did not play at Juve and he played at Roma.

Its also easy to hindsight and forget what the climate was back then… we also had lot of young players like Bastoni, Barella, Skriniar, Sensi, Lautaro, Esposito or players who had not won anything…

With many young players you need to spend 10 times more time with them and nurture them when shit goes real and hope they don’t mess up and mess up their confidence, how you need to train or what to do to get to become a better player and how to follow coach tactics and not to try some naive solo effort… Thats why almost all managers prefers older, more mature and ready players if your goal is to win trophys!

With experinced players like Vidal who has played at biggest teams and games from world cup to CL final to winning almost fucking all… I bet to have these kind of guys in your locker room, they are gold for youngsters and whole team, eaven if they don’t start or perform at their highest level. Especially when your last trophy was a decade ago!

You cant just have bunch of kids who need time and guidance and easily lose focus. So with Tonali and Kumbulla would have added more work to Conte and shit loads of giudance and experience would have been missed. Those older players are like fathers to young boys and extra coaches to managers. Can you imagine to Tonali, Vecino or Gags to give pointers to Barella how to win and how to be a better player or what to focus when you play a bad game :LOL:

Now our young players have matured and have absorb winning mentality from Vidal, Sanchez, Kolarov, Conte and are ready to continue without them and carry the torch and help new youngsters improve and become champions and cycle goes on…

You can’t just single out one or two things (wage/performance) and shit all over, but you have to look for the whole picture! Players, what coach want, what team need, finance, inviduals performance, mentality, training culture, age distribition/experience… So I think Vidal has been solid for us, but now its time to him to go, but I will thank him for his efforts at Inter shirt and I hope he can help us to win another scudetto ;)
 

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Asllani sounds too much like Asnaldi. Needless to say, we are fucked.
 
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We should have gone for Ricci as vice Brozo who went to Torino on 2m loan with 8m option but as usual we were too late and we're going now for the guy who couldn't get minutes at Empoli till Ricci left the club.
 

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We should have gone for Ricci as vice Brozo who went to Torino on 2m loan with 8m option but as usual we were too late and we're going now for the guy who couldn't get minutes at Empoli till Ricci left the club.
Ricci looks talented but still seems a bit raw to me.

Asllani on the other hand only made his professional debut in 2021 so who knows :lol:
 

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"Milan has faster players, inter can never score a goal starting from a quick goalkeeper throw and ending in counterattack, they always need to arrive with their game right in front of opponents box to score a goal."

Maybe I butchered bergomi analysis from last night, but we can all get the point. This shit should be plastered all over marotta and co. offices when they start to look up for potential signings this summer. It can't be stressed enough how much of the counterattacking ability we lost compared to last season, and we need to fix this.
 

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"Milan has faster players, inter can never score a goal starting from a quick goalkeeper throw and ending in counterattack, they always need to arrive with their game right in front of opponents box to score a goal."

Maybe I butchered bergomi analysis from last night, but we can all get the point. This shit should be plastered all over marotta and co. offices when they start to look up for potential signings this summer. It can't be stressed enough how much of the counterattacking ability we lost compared to last season, and we need to fix this.
It's obvious to anyone who has watched this team. There's no athletic ability in the squad, outside of Perisic and Correa. Our defenders are slow. Our starting striker belongs in a nursing home.

We continue sitting deep once we take leads; a player like Leao would finish matches off for us. He can take advantage of the open space and counter teams.

Insert GIF from yesterday of Dzeko wasting a counter attack by mis-hitting a pass to Barella.
 

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We still have that sit deep mentality from Conte.
 

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It always is interesting and a little nervy watching Inter play out from the back especially when opponents put on a full press. Inter are not quick and very average on dribbling through defenders. Fortunately, if we lose possession in our final third the players are very good at getting the ball back and then break out. It's kinda like a " rope a dope" approach in many cases. Thus, the deep ball option is used which invariably leads to giving up possession, since Dzeko and Lautaro are not particularly good at holdup play. Last year Lukaku wasn't that great at it, but occasionally got it right, so opponents had to at least keep an eye out for it.
It is only once Inter get to the midfield area that many of the players really start to shine. Getting new players with some speed and a ounce of technical ability in this regard would be very beneficial.
 
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Empoli president, Corsi, confirmed there's an interest from Inter for Parisi. As for Asllani, he said he would like to keep him for one more season. Pedulla reports this has always been Milan's plan for the midfielder (book him and leave him on loan at Empoli) while Inter and Napoli are also interested.
 

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I like Parisi. He is nice player, better than Cambiaso.
Assllani impresses me as well. He provided beautiful assist in last game against Salernitana. It would be sad to see Milan getting him.
But generally Empoli is nice team with similar philosophy to Sassuolo, but with much more affordable prices. It would be great to collaborate with them and buy the players from them and loan out our young players there, because they like to play with young players and they have offensive mindset. Andreazzoli is a good coach in terms of improving players.
 

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Cambiaso and Parisi are different type of players.

Cambiaso looks to me like a younger version of Darmian. Balanced wingback who keeps his place and has decent attacking play but nothing special.

On the other hand, Parisi is good going forward but he needs to work a lot on his defense. It depends on the kind of player you're looking for. I also consider Cambiaso more ready to take the next step while Parisi seems a bit raw to me but with bigger upside.

If we decide to go for Parisi, better book him and leave him at Empoli for one more season.

As for Asllani, he has some interesting traits but the sample is really small. He was still at primavera till last season and he started getting consistent playing time in February. Too early to judge him.
 

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Cambiaso and Parisi are different type of players.

Cambiaso looks to me like a younger version of Darmian. Balanced wingback who keeps his place and has decent attacking play but nothing special.

On the other hand, Parisi is good going forward but he needs to work a lot on his defense. It depends on the kind of player you're looking for. I also consider Cambiaso more ready to take the next step while Parisi seems a bit raw to me but with bigger upside.

If we decide to go for Parisi, better book him and leave him at Empoli for one more season.

As for Asllani, he has some interesting traits but the sample is really small. He was still at primavera till last season and he started getting consistent playing time in February. Too early to judge him.
Asllani has a great first touch! still dont understand what position he is but frattesi looks like the real deal
 

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If we get Dybala, Bremer and one good vice Brozo, keep Perisic and get rid of Vidal,DeVrij, Vecino, Gags, Sanchez(Bring back Aguomo as 5th mid option and get Acerbi also instead Rana) we will be stronger next season. Too good to happen but not impossible👍
 

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We need to have a stronger squad than this season otherwise we ain't getting out of the CL group stage.
 
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