Milan Škriniar

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Skriniar isn't going anywhere. Even if Kumbulla arrives.
 

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I want Dayot Upamecano if Skriniar leaves, that would be more than acceptable.
 

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He is one of the few players that give a damn about our shirt! I don't want him to leave. it's gonna send out a wrong message. it's like if Nicolo has an average season next year and we want him sold next summer! NO! period
 

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Unfortunately Skriniar have potential to play only on one position and that one is taken from De Vriij. In last year/year and a half he was not on his usual level.

It's a wrong message to sell him, I agree. It will be even worse if he spends another year on bench and his value decrease on 20 millions and he demands a transfer.

If Conte stays here another 2 years Skriniar will be gone anyway, he will demand a transfer because he won't play. Marotta knows that and that's why he'll offload him this summer.
 

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I am firm in my belief that he could play well in front of De Vrij as well. Would also allow for Bastoni and whomever is slotted on the right side to push forward while he holds that DM spot.

He can pass properly as long as you don't want him to get creative, he is composed with the ball, he can stop opposing attacking midfielders coming towards him and he can actually dribble with the ball when needed, especially if he has the confidence that there's De Vrij and others behind him.

What killed his confidence last season imo was playing against Lucas Moura in the Champions League as a right back. He felt vulnerable there and he generally cannot play out wide that well.
 

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His passion downgraded the most from first year
 

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I am firm in my belief that he could play well in front of De Vrij as well. Would also allow for Bastoni and whomever is slotted on the right side to push forward while he holds that DM spot.

He can pass properly as long as you don't want him to get creative, he is composed with the ball, he can stop opposing attacking midfielders coming towards him and he can actually dribble with the ball when needed, especially if he has the confidence that there's De Vrij and others behind him.

What killed his confidence last season imo was playing against Lucas Moura in the Champions League as a right back. He felt vulnerable there and he generally cannot play out wide that well.

This is true. He played that DM position in national team and I liked him a lot. I would really like to see a combination of Skriniar-Brozovic-Eriksen in midfield. He would basically be the same as NDombelé if we actually tried him play that way. I tought at the start of his career that he will move to that position in his career. But he established himself as CB. No one else beside a coach in NT tried it that way.
 

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Why are people bailing the club out of a terrible decision? We don't need plusavenza. FFP isn't real. Man City have proved that. PSG has proved that. Not to mention there are relaxed financial standards this year because of the pandemic.

We don't need to sell Skriniar for financial purposes, and anyone telling you otherwise is just peddling for the club. We could easily swap Vecino or Gagliardini for some deadwood (ala Danilo to Juve) to juice some capital gains if we needed to. But we don't NEED to, we're simply choosing to do so because our stubborn manager who will be gone by 2022 thinks Skriniar isn't good enough.

What are you on?

1. FFP is real. City can cheat it. Inter can't. We don't have enough money to bribe like them, and more importantly, I believe we have more ethics.

2. Financial reason is very strong here. We need plusvalenza, and Skriniar fits the bill in many ways. He generates more plusvalenza than most others. Secondly, he is among the few who would have enough suitors. More importantly, we have enough (and maybe better) replacements lined up in Bastoni, Kumbulla.

3. From a sporting perspective, give the benefit of doubt to Conte and Marotta if they think he isn't good enough. It isn't like they have not seen good players.

In my view, he has showed potential. But that was for 1 season out of his 3 here. At this point, that is not convincing enough to say he will be a great player.
 

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Bastoni and Kumbulla have much higher ceiling then Skriniar. And also much more versatile, can play different types of formations.
So, emotions aside, if you asked me, pick two out these three to build your defense, I’d definitely leave out Skriniar.
 

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Skriniar could be one of the best defenders in recent history tbh. Not on current form, dont get me wrong, and he's a limited CB, not an all-rounder, but that's hugely valuable

He needs to get back to form though tbh.

Bastoni could be a top class all rounder CB, and De Vrij IS a top class ball playing CB
 

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Whoever we buy or don't buy Skriniar should not be sold.
 

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Bastoni and Kumbulla have much higher ceiling then Skriniar. And also much more versatile, can play different types of formations.
So, emotions aside, if you asked me, pick two out these three to build your defense, I’d definitely leave out Skriniar.

How did you come to this conclusion?

And how is Kumbulla more versatile than Skriniar? The only thing he can do more than Skriniar is hang out with Sensi.
 

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It's just so tough to lose a player of Skriniar's level and attachment.
This, but also...

Unfortunately Skriniar have potential to play only on one position and that one is taken from De Vriij. In last year/year and a half he was not on his usual level.

It's a wrong message to sell him, I agree. It will be even worse if he spends another year on bench and his value decrease on 20 millions and he demands a transfer.

If Conte stays here another 2 years Skriniar will be gone anyway, he will demand a transfer because he won't play. Marotta knows that and that's why he'll offload him this summer.
This.

Like I've mentioned already, I don't think anybody would be joyless to sell him. Nobody. No fan would be happy about it. But we as fans should have the good of the club first on our minds, and then the players. We want our coach to succeed cause if he does, then we do as well.

If Conte stays for few more years and our management and Zhangs are commited to him, what's the point of just forcing him to have players he knows will hinder the teams performance? Either get rid of Conte and get players for the new coach (and there will be problems like that too but on other positons like wing backs vs side backs) or stick with Conte and TRY to give players that he wants and also keep checking him and not letting him go off the rails (that's where Marotta comes in and should protect teams long term interest).

People who are against this transfer just thinks Conte is stupid coach and we should or he will be fired in a year, and so they don't want to wake up in a year with a new coach who plays back 4, with Skriniar already out of this team. But that's a guess. Pure guess. For now, Conte is our coach and if Zhangs commit to him (clear up Contes outburst and get on the same page) our biggest interest is to maximize what coach wants (keeping him in check as well) and that will give us the biggest percentage of winning.

Gasp never had a chance at Inter, so did Benitez and many other coaches. If you as a club hire a coach and then just screw him and don't back him up (within a reason), then you will end up firing the coach soon enough and you will be in bigger shit than when you started.

If Conte and Marotta will decide to sell Skriniar for someone who will make our team be more competetive and give us bigger chance of winning I will not like it, but I will understand. I hope that point is clear and from what I read here more people than I expected understand it as well.
 

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If Skriniar is not able to adapt to back 3, maybe he is not as good as the hype. A good CB should be able to play both 2 CBs or 3 CBs.

I believe Skriniar is just having an off season, like Lukaku did last season in United. It's a new system and a new role for him. He never had to go up and down the field before.
 

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1. FFP is real. City can cheat it. Inter can't. We don't have enough money to bribe like them, and more importantly, I believe we have more ethics.

To specifically address the FFP issue, selling Skriniar "for FFP" is just the easy way out and we'd be hacks to take it.

Conte simply isn't convinced by Skriniar. And to be fair, Skriniar has indeed been very poor. Maybe with time and hard work, Skriniar can improve to fit in Conte's tactical system like Godin has done. But Conte doesn't want to hang around and wait to see if that gamble pays off or not. What if Skriniar never adapts? Conte wants a CB he can trust right now. Our scouts/technical department have apparently identified that player as Kumbulla. The fact that Skriniar can generate a healthy plusvalenza is convenient, but not the deciding factor by any means.

In the past we've bent over backwards (credit to Ausilio where it's due) to meet FFP and still buy good players. It was only 2 years ago we had to meet some €50m capital gains bullshit. The media was going on non-stop about us sacrificing one of Icardi, Brozovic, Skriniar or Perisic (our most valuable players at the time). Of course, in the end we didn't lose any of them. Instead, we managed to meet our various FFP & settlement agreement obligations it through all manner of youth sales, loans and other plusvalenza generating moves etc.

My point is, we can easily do that again if we try. Selling Skriniar "for FFP purposes" is like getting liposuction instead of dieting and working out. It's bullshit and it's just a quick fix - like I said, the easy way out. IF the intention to keep Skriniar is there, we can do it. 100% we can do it. For us to put Skriniar on the market is only partially for financial reasons.

But we all knew this was a likelihood when hiring Marotta. He is ruthlessly pragmatic in sales and isn't afraid to sacrifice any fan favorites. For Marotta, every player has their price. As brehme accurately said, that's just who Marotta is. I disagree with brehme's assessment that Marotta's overrated but that's a separate issue.

My hope is that Skriniar rejects a move elsewhere, let alone a swap move for that fucking trashcan Ndombele. I hope that he'll stay, follow Godin's example, quietly work his ass off and successfully adapt to the system. (Now I just sound like a hopeless romantic)
 

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rather sell de vrij and play skriniar in the middle of the back3
 

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De Vrij is a better fit for the central position in the 3 CBs due to his ability to play long passes. He has been very good at them this season.

Bastoni has done that well from LCB too. Even Godin has made some decent ones from RCB. It's only Skriniar that can't do this.

Which brings us back to the point, FFP isn't the biggest reason IMO. There is enough from a technical perspective here to make this call.
 

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with 2 good ball playing CBs, I dont really think we need a third. Remember, it isnt about symmetry, its about balance. With Hakimi as a very attacking wing back, a more traditional CB might be a really good foil for him.
 

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I will maintain my position that Skriniar will be sold because he fetches a lot of money or "money" back. If he fetched like 30m€, there'd be no point selling him. Might as well keep and get him to work on that side CB role to master it.
 

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Hopefully Skriniar doesn't get the Sneijder treatment
 
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