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I don`t hold Skrniar in so high regard as the vast majority of the forum. He is a great player but not as great as many portray him to be. From my perspective, Bremer is better than Skrniar.
I said it when we hoped to sign him, I would have say that ih he came and Skrniar would have been transfer. And I said it now when Bremer is a Rube player. Bremer is better than Skrniar.

But even for me who don`t rate him as high as you, it is still astonishing how Skrniar is in such low demand. And Skrniar was officialy on the table. There were many teams with spending power who need a CB and still only PSG came and made a meh offer. Lounde, Koulibaly, de Ligt all are gone. If Skrniar is so good, why don't we see many suitors? Are we overrated this guy? Maybe the big teams were not impressed from what they saw?
 

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I don`t hold Skrniar in so high regard as the vast majority of the forum. He is a great player but not as great as many portray him to be. From my perspective, Bremer is better than Skrniar.
I said it when we hoped to sign him, I would have say that ih he came and Skrniar would have been transfer. And I said it now when Bremer is a Rube player. Bremer is better than Skrniar.

But even for me who don`t rate him as high as you, it is still astonishing how Skrniar is in such low demand. And Skrniar was officialy on the table. There were many teams with spending power who need a CB and still only PSG came and made a meh offer. Lounde, Koulibaly, de Ligt all are gone. If Skrniar is so good, why don't we see many suitors? Are we overrated this guy? Maybe the big teams were not impressed from what they saw?
LOL now i ve read it all.....
If breme is better than skriniar why did he go for only 50 while skriniar had offers for 60? This game works both ways....(same goes for Kounde)
Koulibaly went for 35.. all f europe would be over skriniar if he was available for 35...
Only argument is de ligt....

Anyways i m still shocked that people could think bremer is better than skriniar atm....
 

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I don`t hold Skrniar in so high regard as the vast majority of the forum. He is a great player but not as great as many portray him to be. From my perspective, Bremer is better than Skrniar.
I said it when we hoped to sign him, I would have say that ih he came and Skrniar would have been transfer. And I said it now when Bremer is a Rube player. Bremer is better than Skrniar.

But even for me who don`t rate him as high as you, it is still astonishing how Skrniar is in such low demand. And Skrniar was officialy on the table. There were many teams with spending power who need a CB and still only PSG came and made a meh offer. Lounde, Koulibaly, de Ligt all are gone. If Skrniar is so good, why don't we see many suitors? Are we overrated this guy? Maybe the big teams were not impressed from what they saw?
Skriniar is good at being a bully in defence, but with the ball, he's a lot worse than many defenders out there (but not enough for that to be big problem for us, since De Vrij and Bastoni are pretty good at that)

Other clubs see the price we set and get cold feet, United already have enough CBs, Real and Barca don't want a Skriniar type, City neither, Pool has enough CBs, only Chelsea and PSG left and they might rather wait to see if he becomes a free agent

Other, smaller clubs, might wait for that as well, like Spurs or Atletico
 

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LOL now i ve read it all.....
If breme is better than skriniar why did he go for only 50 while skriniar had offers for 60? This game works both ways....(same goes for Kounde)
Koulibaly went for 35.. all f europe would be over skriniar if he was available for 35...
Only argument is de ligt....

Anyways i m still shocked that people could think bremer is better than skriniar atm....
Bremer is 2 years younger too lmao. If he was better than Skriniar, he'd have been sold for 90m. Bremer never touched the grass in the highest competition yet.

It's ridiculous whenever people use the argument, "if he was so good, how come this and this didn't happen". There's so many background information that we don't know to conclude that, that's why I fucking hate it when people post random shit from random sources.
 

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Bremer is 2 years younger too lmao. If he was better than Skriniar, he'd have been sold for 90m. Bremer never touched the grass in the highest competition yet.

It's ridiculous whenever people use the argument, "if he was so good, how come this and this didn't happen". There's so many background information that we don't know to conclude that, that's why I fucking hate it when people post random shit from random sources.
Yeah and the football player market is NOT efficient ie. the mechanism of price discovery is very suboptimal. Pure player quality is only one factor of that equation, there are a lot of other factors too affecting the price discovery.
 

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Skrniar is great man to man defender, a bully defender. But as Wera said he is lot worse with the ball on his feet (de Vrij is vice versa and Bastoni may be the most complete of all three).
Skriniar has another weakness, which seems not to be discuss here. He is not very mobile and had a hard time against fast players like Leao, Chiesa. This is the reason why teams like City, Bayern who play with high lines were not interested.

Bremer shares the same characteristics like Skrniar. Where I think Bremer is better is the mobility. Bremer is faster than Skrniar and has more tools to deal with Leaos or similar players. Bremer has a question mark (a big one): until now he played only for relegation or midtable. It`s an open question if he can deal with beeing at a team with other expectations. This is the reason why he was sold for "only" 50m.
 

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Bremer has one great season, skriniar has been great for a lot longer. Skriniar has proven he can be great in a back 4 and 3 while Bremer has only proven it in a back 3.

Bremer has great potential but for now Skriniar is the better player...
 

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Even the parties negotiating do not have all the information. The purchaser doesn’t know what the seller is willing to accept. They speculate, like people do on this forum.

If Skriniar’s market valuation for Inter was 50-55 million, he would have been sold 100% guaranteed. Considering he has only one year left in his contract and Inter is in need of cash this seems reasonable to the purchaser. PSG may not know that Skriniar is a loyal player who fired his agent in the last contract extension with Inter.

Once PSG understood that 70M was Inter’s maximum, Inter had a 1/3rd chance of selling him. Since 60M would have been done 2/3 of the time.

The fact that PSG stayed in negotiations for the time they did, told Inter that they are still interested in the player and may still meet valuation.

However, at 70 million, PSG may just walk, which at the moment, we can speculate is 2/3 likelier than the 1/3 chance of purchase.
 

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Just for the record i disagree that skriniar is weak with the ball he s not on the level of a bastoni but imho he s above average even with the ball he just looks extremely awkward....

Also imho there is no discussion that he has been the better CB than both de ligt and Bremer the last couple of seasons...
An argument can be made that koulibaly was better...
 

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Just for the record i disagree that skriniar is weak with the ball he s not on the level of a bastoni but imho he s above average even with the ball he just looks extremely awkward....

Also imho there is no discussion that he has been the better CB than both de ligt and Bremer the last couple of seasons...
An argument can be made that koulibaly was better...
Capitano had the same problem, clumsy with the ball, but he can control the ball, he can pass it simple and that is all defender needs, he's reliable, better that than be great with the ball and always try to have risky run forward, you know what happens then...
 

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Capitano had the same problem, clumsy with the ball, but he can control the ball, he can pass it simple and that is all defender needs, he's reliable, better that than be great with the ball and always try to have risky run forward, you know what happens then...
Which Capitano was clumsy with the ball? Icardi? Rano? I hope you weren't talking about Zanetti because he wasn't clumsy with the ball at all
 

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Which Capitano was clumsy with the ball? Icardi? Rano? I hope you weren't talking about Zanetti because he wasn't clumsy with the ball at all
the shit he wasnt, just watch his runs and dribles
he was as clumsy as Skriniar is
 

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Even the parties negotiating do not have all the information. The purchaser doesn’t know what the seller is willing to accept. They speculate, like people do on this forum.

If Skriniar’s market valuation for Inter was 50-55 million, he would have been sold 100% guaranteed. Considering he has only one year left in his contract and Inter is in need of cash this seems reasonable to the purchaser. PSG may not know that Skriniar is a loyal player who fired his agent in the last contract extension with Inter.

Once PSG understood that 70M was Inter’s maximum, Inter had a 1/3rd chance of selling him. Since 60M would have been done 2/3 of the time.

The fact that PSG stayed in negotiations for the time they did, told Inter that they are still interested in the player and may still meet valuation.

However, at 70 million, PSG may just walk, which at the moment, we can speculate is 2/3 likelier than the 1/3 chance of purchase.
This is a good way to put it!
People (players) are not commodities. It is partially irrelevant if that player is sold for xx millions, I also want xx+ millions for my player.
A player is worth what a particular team want to pay for him, considering their needs at that moment. Unfortunately nobody want to pay 70m for Skriniar as today. It doesn`t mean Skriniar is worse than other players that was sold for similar amounts.
 

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the shit he wasnt, just watch his runs and dribles
he was as clumsy as Skriniar is
I fucking hate using YouTube highlights but you obviously never watched him play so here's a highlight and there's nothing clumsy about his dribbling. He's not as flashy as Robinho or Ronaldo when it comes to dribbling, but it's nowhere near clumsy.

 
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