Nahitan Nández

[ADRossi]

You forgot Çalhanoğlu. I also highly doubt we keep Agoume unless Inzaghi is very impressed. Realistically he is still not good enough for Inter.

Nandez coming could potentially allow us to play with a 2 in midfield in emergencies (when Brozo is suspende). Both he and Barella have the legs to make it work, theoretically.

Something like:

Perisic - Lukaku - Alexis
Dimarco - Nandez - Barella - Darmian
Bastoni - De Vrij - Skriniar

I would love to occasionally play a 3-4-3, but Alexis and Martinez both don't have the legs for it.

 

[thatdude]

I would love to occasionally play a 3-4-3, but Alexis and Martinez both don't have the legs for it.

Yeah it would have to be chasing a game or against weaker opposition for now.

 

[CafeCordoba]

You forgot Çalhanoğlu. I also highly doubt we keep Agoume unless Inzaghi is very impressed. Realistically he is still not good enough for Inter.

Nandez coming could potentially allow us to play with a 2 in midfield in emergencies (when Brozo is suspende). Both he and Barella have the legs to make it work, theoretically.

Something like:

Perisic - Lukaku - Alexis
Dimarco - Nandez - Barella - Darmian
Bastoni - De Vrij - Skriniar

Hah I knew I'd forget someone and I did it with one of the starters. Oh well...

 

[pier]

Nandez is the most valuable player of Cagliari and if they're ready to accept a loan with option with 5 mln fee is already a favour towards us.

It's really pathetic if true and we don't have even 5 mln euro for transfer budget. We already sold Hakimi and I expected that at least 15-20 mln euro will be reinvested to a new player. Moreover, we are Champions of Italy, so the supporters deserve new player - I don't expect Pogba or Mbappe, but at least Nandez. And it's a bit unfair towards Simone Inzaghi to not equip him with new wingback.
By the way, check how much Parma which was relegated to Serie B, spent this summer - 30 mln euro.

Actually, if we add all the number based on the rumors, this operation doesn't just cost €5m.

If we sign Nandez for €5m loan fee with €3m pa + tax, it sums up to €10.5m.
Now let's add the appetizers for Cagliari.
Nainggolan severance pay for 2m + tax is at €3.7m.
Paying Dalbert amortization while on loan €4m.
Possible dry loan for Satrino/Agoume/Pinamonti.

So, in total the operation requires at least €18.3m for loaning Nandez for a season.

 

[varmin]

Actually, if we add all the number based on the rumors, this operation doesn't just cost €5m.

If we sign Nandez for €5m loan fee with €3m pa + tax, it sums up to €10.5m.
Now let's add the appetizers for Cagliari.
Nainggolan severance pay for 2m + tax is at €3.7m.
Paying Dalbert amortization while on loan €4m.
Possible dry loan for Satrino/Agoume/Pinamonti.

So, in total the operation requires at least €18.3m for loaning Nandez for a season.

I don't know why you count 9n and Dalbert deals to the Nandez? Even without him loaned or bought, both of them would have been burden anyway.

 

[diamen]

Actually, if we add all the number based on the rumors, this operation doesn't just cost €5m.

If we sign Nandez for €5m loan fee with €3m pa + tax, it sums up to €10.5m.
Now let's add the appetizers for Cagliari.
Nainggolan severance pay for 2m + tax is at €3.7m.
Paying Dalbert amortization while on loan €4m.
Possible dry loan for Satrino/Agoume/Pinamonti.

So, in total the operation requires at least €18.3m for loaning Nandez for a season.

the problem is that you are considering Dalbert and Nainggolan as valuable assets like we could avoid losses on them if Nandez was not involved in the deal. Nainggolan wants only Cagliari and we don't have choice and we have to find agreement with Giulini to send him to Sardinia, it's normal they want to benefit from that and get the best deal.
When it comes to Dalbert, it seems that the only club which wanted to buy him outright, was Besiktas but Dalberto Carlos refused the offer, so the only option was to send him on loan either to Cagliari or other club.
Pinamonti earns 2mln net / year, so we can't avoid paying part of his salary after sending him to the loan.

 

[brightbackground]

Funny how time can change your perspective. A year ago we were vaguely linked with Nandez and I was like "ew". Now that he's about to join I'm overjoyed because I know that he's actually the best we can get.

 

[Materazzi_23]

I don’t really get the Dumfries hate especially when you look at who else we’re linked to. I think especially with Dimarco on the left having someone a big stronger and more physical would be good. He can also provide a backpost aerial threat which is something none of our wingbacks really excel at.

This is exactly the only things he's ''good'' at. He is a strong physical player but can't cross even if his life depends on it. So there isn't a lot room for improvement if you look at the technical part. And why have a RWB who can't cross or pass? I just don't think he is good enough for Inter and we would pay to much for someone we will sell next summer. And yes he scored a few goals in the Dutch league but he played against youngsters or old farts so I wouldn't attach too much importance to that. I know he scored 2 goals at the EC and probably was looking good in the highlights of the games but overall he is a typical players who suddenly plays very good at the EC or WC, gets sold for a lot of money only to confirm that his form was temporary.

 

[YoramG]

This is exactly the only things he's ''good'' at. He is a strong physical player but can't cross even if his life depends on it. So there isn't a lot room for improvement if you look at the technical part. And why have a RWB who can't cross or pass? I just don't think he is good enough for Inter and we would pay to much for someone we will sell next summer. And yes he scored a few goals in the Dutch league but he played against youngsters or old farts so I wouldn't attach too much importance to that. I know he scored 2 goals at the EC and probably was looking good in the highlights of the games but overall he is a typical players who suddenly plays very good at the EC or WC, gets sold for a lot of money only to confirm that his form was temporary.

I'm the biggest Hakimi fan on this planet, but let's be honest with ourselves, he also couldn't cross for shit 8/10 times. Quick one twos leading to a straight low ball across the box, absolutely, but looping crosses to find someone's head? Absolutely not.

 

[vex]

Yeah, for wingbacks the most important thing is exactly what dumfries and hakimi have. Crossing ability is much more important for fullback position imo.

 

[YoramG]

Anyway, I've been watching some clips of this guy here and there and the similarities to Barella are actually uncanny. He's still much greener than Nicolo, but he's gonna make for a good replacement when Barella's duracell's run out.

 

[qb4ever_2k]

Yeah, for wingbacks the most important thing is exactly what dumfries and hakimi have. Crossing ability is much more important for fullback position imo.

Oh come one, this comparison is ridiculous. I'm shit at crossing and run quite fast too (I steal phones and wallets on the streets).

Also available for free, take me Marotta.

 

[Materazzi_23]

I'm the biggest Hakimi fan on this planet, but let's be honest with ourselves, he also couldn't cross for shit 8/10 times. Quick one twos leading to a straight low ball across the box, absolutely, but looping crosses to find someone's head? Absolutely not.

But Hakimi could pass or dribble, at least he was technical. Dumfries can't do neither but I get your point. So yeah it may not be the most important quality but it would be nice. Dumfries has what we call in Holland '' hard feets'', which mean he can't control the ball or dribble with it. Just rely on strength and pace, but if we want someone like that we can check out the local athleticsclub in Milano and just grab the quickest or strongest guy.

 

[pupivn]

But Hakimi could pass or dribble, at least he was technical. Dumfries can't do neither but I get your point. So yeah it may not be the most important quality but it would be nice. Dumfries has what we call in Holland '' hard feets'', which mean he can't control the ball or dribble with it. Just rely on strength and pace, but if we want someone like that we can check out the local athleticsclub in Milano and just grab the quickest or strongest guy.

don't agree that Hakimi is technical winger, not that flashy like Spinazzola. He barely plays 1 one 1 and dribble over player, relies on speed or starting speed to be accurate, positioning in attack. Even his positioning was questionable in beginning of last season, his crossing didn't help at all, he was benched some matches.

 

[Gaindé]

But Hakimi could pass or dribble, at least he was technical. Dumfries can't do neither but I get your point. So yeah it may not be the most important quality but it would be nice. Dumfries has what we call in Holland '' hard feets'', which mean he can't control the ball or dribble with it. Just rely on strength and pace, but if we want someone like that we can check out the local athleticsclub in Milano and just grab the quickest or strongest guy.

He could do it like Lukaku, stomping on opponent players.

 

[IM21]

His agent is in Milano

 

[Il Drago]

Funny how time can change your perspective. A year ago we were vaguely linked with Nandez and I was like "ew". Now that he's about to join I'm overjoyed because I know that he's actually the best we can get.

It's totally expected actually. Things were much different last summer. We basically had Vidal, Eriksen, Sensi and Nainggolan for one spot. We were expecting Eriksen to improve in his second season, Conte to get the best out of Vidal, we were hoping Sensi could stay fit and regain his early Inter form and perhaps Conte to get something out of Nainggolan. In that midfield there was no space for Nandez. But one year later the situation in midfield is like this:

• Vidal only showed up in few matches and in the rest of the season he was either underperforming or injured
• Eriksen almost died on the pitch and he probably won't play for Inter again
• Sensi couldn't stay fit to save his life and even when he was available he looked only a shadow of the player he was in his first month at Inter
• Nainggolan is a lost case

So there's basically no midfielder on the bench we could rely on. I don't count the duo of doom, Gagliardini and Vecino. And that's why Nandez looks like a great addition now considering our financial situation.

 

[nurko]

I would add that in that year Nandez also improved, showed versatility as well and has something to offer to this team.

 

[PHM1605]

It's totally expected actually. Things were much different last summer. We basically had Vidal, Eriksen, Sensi and Nainggolan for one spot. We were expecting Eriksen to improve in his second season, Conte to get the best out of Vidal, we were hoping Sensi could stay fit and regain his early Inter form and perhaps Conte to get something out of Nainggolan. In that midfield there was no space for Nandez. But one year later the situation in midfield is like this:

• Vidal only showed up in few matches and in the rest of the season he was either underperforming or injured
• Eriksen almost died on the pitch and he probably won't play for Inter again
• Sensi couldn't stay fit to save his life and even when he was available he looked only a shadow of the player he was in his first month at Inter
• Nainggolan is a lost case

So there's basically no midfielder on the bench we could rely on. I don't count the duo of doom, Gagliardini and Vecino. And that's why Nandez looks like a great addition now considering our financial situation.

If you list players' deficits and exclude them like that, never be enough. They are backups, to drain minutes here and there when the starters are not available. Do not expect them to do well all the time.

If a team can replace an underperforming backup by another one, with different characteristics, then it's enough. No other Serie A teams have a better midfielder bench than Sensi, Vidal, Gags and Vecino; Juve including.

 

[Il Drago]

If you list players' deficits and exclude them like that, never be enough. They are backups, to drain minutes here and there when the starters are not available. Do not expect them to do well all the time.

If a team can replace an underperforming backup by another one, with different characteristics, then it's enough. No other Serie A teams have a better midfielder bench than Sensi, Vidal, Gags and Vecino; Juve including.

You don't need your backups to always perform at their best but you need them to be available. Instead our backups miss lots of our games due to injuries. When Gagliardini is the only backup who's available on a consistent basis, it's a problem.