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[interista4]

http://swissramble.blogspot.co.at/2013/08/arsenal-money-dont-matter-2-night.html?m=1

They described the finances of Arsenal really really well! I takes long to read but if somebody is interested... they have a transfer budged of 80-100, 2 new deals which bring them 300 millions and a new stadium! Hopefully this doesnt happen to Inter :rollani:
Now its their first year of spending power, it depends on Wenger if they win trophies or not.

You are missing on the main point here. Arsenal DO have money, a shit load of it, but they're not spending any of it and are selling thier best players to other top teams. I think it's clear as the sky that I4E and anyone else would be damn pleased if we were half as good financially as Arsenal is, but we sure as hell don't want us to have a management who only care for profit before anything else.

What spendings are you talking about? Even a financially damaged club like ours manages to spend more than Arsenal in this year alone. So no I don't wish Inter to have 300m and only spend 1% off it, I'd rather have 30m and spend 90% of it. However I do as hell wish we have had 300m for spendings.

IF they start spending as a top club should then I'd consider wanting to be like them, but untill then it's a big no.

 

[n4l]

The fact is, it is better to be in their position where a simple change in manager could see them spend money and contend RIGHT AWAY, than to be in our position where we don't even know where we're going to get money from to even REMAIN MILDLY COMPETITIVE.

They have money and are competitive. We have no money and not competitive. Laughing at Arsenal doesn't seem to make sense to me but ce la vie.

 

[wera]

exactly. this is the same team that could almost throw Bayern out of the Champions League, ffs! when everything clicks, they can be a menace, but sadly Wenger is losing it

 

[Sassuolu]

Financially the Arsenal model does wonders it's not a situation of either/or just look at Dortmund they use a similar approach and they've had success don't be such a moron.

 

[interista4]

The fact is, it is better to be in their position where a simple change in manager could see them spend money and contend RIGHT AWAY, than to be in our position where we don't even know where we're going to get money from to even REMAIN MILDLY COMPETITIVE.

They have money and are competitive. We have no money and not competitive. Laughing at Arsenal doesn't seem to make sense to me but ce la vie.

If it was that simple then they would have sacked Wenger a long time ago, but they haven't so the MGMT are just using Wenger as thier excuse for not spending. If they didn't like the way they're being ran, they could have changed it. We're not talking 2 years here, but way over 5 years. They're competitive (enough for 4th) because they give the coach enough time to work with the players and full credit in signings. And yes, he gets the best out of them but sadly it's only enough for 4th place. I'd rather finish 9th from time to time and have a shot on the scudetto every couple of years, rather than always finish 4th.

exactly. this is the same team that could almost throw Bayern out of the Champions League, ffs! when everything clicks, they can be a menace, but sadly Wenger is losing it

"When everything clicks" they have been saying it for years. Try to imagine our fans reaction if we sold our best player straightly to Juve. You guys look at one good side which is cool, but complately ignoring the bad thing that comes with it. There is two sides to a coin, whilst they're one of the most financially healthy clubs in Europe, they refuse to spend any money and sign players that will take them to the next level. I don't and never will want to see Inter being run like this, unless OFC they change complately and start spending.

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Financially the Arsenal model does wonders it's not a situation of either/or just look at Dortmund they use a similar approach and they've had success don't be such a moron.

Not even close. You mean the same dortmund that purchased Mkhitaryan for 28m & rues for 17m? When Arsenal brings proper similar replacements for Cesc & RVP you could compare them.

 

[n4l]

I'd rather finish 9th from time to time and have a shot on the scudetto every couple of years, rather than always finish 4th..

You think we're going to have a shot at scudetto every couple years? Ok....carry on.

 

[pencilpal]

What the fuck is the Arsenal model?

I don't think that building a stadium and trying to make a profit out of the club can be considered a distinct model, especially when their management isn't spending because of stadium debt, and to protect the club financially if it fails to qualify for CL. Also, they lack structure in the transfer market. These were all wonderfully presented in the Swiss Ramble report that Matrix Invisible posted previously.

There's definitely a Barcelona model, but not one for Arsenal. And for those who believe Thohir will be running the club on a purely financial basis, there are three positives to that.

1. New stadium, Marketing the team -> greater revenue and cash-flow from stadium turnouts and merchandise
2. Youth project -> save millions in the mercato in relative profit (compared to MM's transfer strategy)
3. Investing in the squad -> better results on the pitch -> qualification for Europe, higher league standing, progression through domestic cups -> television rights and greater stadium turnouts -> greater revenue and cash-flow

So there is no real relation between a frugal, incompetent management and the club recording some sort of profit. Rather there's more of a relation between a competent management and a good financial standing in the club.

And stop referring to Arsenal's case as a model. It's a very particular situation, their club structure in fact directly stagnates any progress in the mercato, and you can't generalize in saying that we will immediately become like Arsenal when management may work towards the betterment of Inter's financial improvement.

We're in this situation because MM has been thinking more like a fan than a businessmen; longevity in results carries much more importance over short term results, and he failed to realize that.

 

[didi]

S T R E A M ? ? ?

 

[Ed.]

What the fuck is the Arsenal model?

I don't think that building a stadium and trying to make a profit out of the club can be considered a distinct model, especially when their management isn't spending because of stadium debt, and to protect the club financially if it fails to qualify for CL. Also, they lack structure in the transfer market. These were all wonderfully presented in the Swiss Ramble report that Matrix Invisible posted previously.

There's definitely a Barcelona model, but not one for Arsenal. And for those who believe Thohir will be running the club on a purely financial basis, there are three positives to that.

1. New stadium, Marketing the team -> greater revenue and cash-flow from stadium turnouts and merchandise
2. Youth project -> save millions in the mercato in relative profit (compared to MM's transfer strategy)
3. Investing in the squad -> better results on the pitch -> qualification for Europe, higher league standing, progression through domestic cups -> television rights and greater stadium turnouts -> greater revenue and cash-flow

So there is no real relation between a frugal, incompetent management and the club recording some sort of profit. Rather there's more of a relation between a competent management and a good financial standing in the club.

And stop referring to Arsenal's case as a model. It's a very particular situation, their club structure in fact directly stagnates any progress in the mercato, and you can't generalize in saying that we will immediately become like Arsenal when management may work towards the betterment of Inter's financial improvement.

We're in this situation because MM has been thinking more like a fan than a businessmen; longevity in results carries much more importance over short term results, and he failed to realize that.

What if what Thohir brings is something like...

Buy Inter -> just for fame -> get some projects from government -> promised to build stadium -> get into political party -> promised to build stadium -> trying to give a shot as a minister -> promised to build stadium -> enjoy billions himself -> fuck inter -> sells inter to someone else -> we are still with Branca and co.

 

[pencilpal]

What if what Thohir brings is something like...

Buy Inter -> just for fame -> get some projects from government -> promised to build stadium -> get into political party -> promised to build stadium -> trying to give a shot as a minister -> promised to build stadium -> enjoy billions himself -> fuck inter -> sells inter to someone else -> we are still with Branca and co.

See, that wouldn't happen if he wanted the club to receive greater cash flow, because better results and integrating youth players into the team (rather than buying other players on the mercato) is the best financial strategy for any club.

 

[Ed.]

But the real question still remains... Does Thohir really intend to buy Inter? Or is it just to boost his popularity in Indonesia?

 

[chipschups]

But the real question still remains... Does Thohir really intend to buy Inter? Or is it just to boost his popularity in Indonesia?

he need to spent his money elsewhere but Indonesia,,

 

[JJM]

Sky:Thohir is taking over on 3 September.No mercato help from him then...

blivious:

 

[wera]

winter mercato full of promises, here we come!

 

[JJM]

winter mercato full of promises, here we come!

brace yourself!Winter is coming!

 

[ath]

Fuck him, he missed his penalty in 1997 against Schalke !

 

[JJM]

Fuck him, he missed his penalty in 1997 against Schalke !

Who Thohir? :trollol::trollol::trollol:

 

[ath]

No Aron Winter :trollol:

 

[wera]

hahhahhahhah how the fuck do you remember Aron Winter :notbad: :slick:

 

[ath]

I became fan of Inter about that time, so my first bad memory was that final haha.

My first Jonathan was Winter. But tbh I liked this player a lot, plus in Fifa 98 et 99 he was a real boss :closeenough: