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Which proposed stadium project do you prefer?


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Check out the official website: https://www.nuovostadiomilano.com/en

Both stadiums would have around 60-65k capacity.

Project one: The Cathedral by Populous:
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Project 2: The Rings of Milano by Sportium
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Right off the bat they are confusing us. They presented 'The Rings of Milano' first but they are calling it project 2.


Anyways, I'm for 'Rings of Milano'. Looks more modern. The other one by Populous, they talk about tradition, historic buildings, food, etc. but it looks too meh. After all that talk about history of culture I was expecting something more. Not something that looks from the 1950s.
 

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Can't they just make a replica of the Meazza? :D
 

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They show that a renovation would take 5-6 years and capacity would be limited to 58k whereas a new stadium would take 3 years and have more seats.
Cost is ~500m for renovation and ~650m for new one.

Economically it always made sense for a new one, but with the specifics it shows that a renovation would be more limiting from a business sense.

They just need to sell mini replicas of it for years to come :)
 

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The Meazza was built a hundred years ago almost (1926)... At this point renovating this shit makes no sense at all, as much as it might hurt to see it demolished.
 

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Both stadiums look amazing tbh, we are lucky to get one of them ( if , then when?)

I really like the colour themes on project 2, red and blue. But they can probably arrange it on the project 1 too.

Have to get my ass to Meazza for a either a Madonnina or D'Italia. Last time visited was in tripletta year 2010 March. For the old times sake.
 

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A great FAQ section on the https://www.nuovostadiomilano.com website BTW:



Why now for a new stadium in Milano? It does not seem like a priority

It absolutely is a priority. One of the main reasons that we have seen other leagues in Europe overtake Serie A in terms of attractiveness is because many of their clubs have created stadiums that deliver a passionate, inclusive and spectacular environment. If we want to pass on our passion for the game to the next generation of fans, we must invest in modern facilities that will provide them with the best match experience possible. In the context of Financial Fair Play, having a stadium that is able to generate significant revenues is essential for any club with aspirations to compete at the top level internationally.



A 60,000 seat stadium is not sufficient for two clubs like Milan and Inter

This is not the case. A stadium with a capacity between 55,000 and 65,000 seats, as proposed in the "Technical and Economic Feasibility Study” presented by the clubs, is an ideal number for Milan and Inter. In the last 10 years, the average number of spectators that attended Inter and Milan’s matches was around 47,300. A full stadium creates an incredible atmosphere for fans and players and even improves the experience of the match for the TV audience all over the world. A sold-out stadium makes every match a must-see event!



Lower capacity and more corporate seats will result in significant ticket price increases. Inter and Milan have an “exclusive” model in mind

The share of “Corporate” seats in the Meazza stadium today is 4% of the total capacity, compared to an average amongst comparable club stadiums of around 15%. The clubs naturally want to enhance the quality of the match day experience, but they are aware of the needs of their fans and want the new stadium to be open to all. In fact, “inclusiveness” is a key theme for the project as a whole, as well as one of the core values of our city. The new stadium will be a completely accessible, family-friendly environment that caters for all fans equally regardless of gender, age or physical ability. The stadium will also provide safe and secure areas for fan groups from both home and away teams.



It would be better for each team to have its own stadium

AC Milan and FC Internazionale Milano have successfully shared San Siro for over 70 years. The strength of the stadium project is based on the commitment of the two clubs to work together. This provides the opportunity for more investment and ensures a common goal: to give the city of Milano a vibrant sports and entertainment district. The vision is for a year-round destination, supported by the matchdays of both clubs, and providing jobs for over 3,500 people.



The clubs cannot be granted permissions for this density of construction

The “Feasibility Study” was submitted in accordance with the Stadium Law, which was implemented specifically to help investors in major sports venues across Italy to fund their projects with ancillary commercial activities. The law also allows for the allocation of a 90-year surface right on the land to be used. These changes improve the financial sustainability of this type of project, thereby increasing the appetite of private investors to commit to them. The total private investment in the new stadium for Milano project will be more than €1.2billion. The clubs plan for this development to be not just a world-class sports venue, but a modern, sustainable and accessible urban district; a new landmark for Milano and in keeping with the city’s ambition to be a global center for innovation.



It will be yet another concrete jungle…

This is absolutely not the vision that the clubs have for the area. The project has sustainability of all types, in particular environmental, at its core. The clubs will work together with global experts to ensure that the new district will work in perfect harmony with its surroundings, providing the San Siro area with more green space, more services and a more pleasant environment than the space provides today. The district will be active 365 days a year, providing destination for its neighbours as well as visitors. We can’t wait to show what’s possible!



The new district is disruptive for the city and will have a negative impact on local residents

The objective of the new stadium is to work for the city, not against it. The clubs will maintain an open and transparent dialogue with the district, and in particular with the neighborhood itself, to ensure that all aspects of the development take the needs of the city and its residents into account. There are numerous examples in Milano, as well as across Italy and abroad, which demonstrate that the value that this kind of project will provide to local residents. The developments at City Life and Porta Nuova, for example, completely reimagined and revitalized their respective neighbourhoods.



The project is not compatible with the Milano - Cortina Winter Olympics 2026

Whilst the clubs understand the commitments made to the IOC by Milano Cortina 2026, the need for a new stadium is too immediate to postpone a decision until after the games. However, subject to the necessary permissions being granted in time, the clubs will commit to providing both a world-class stadium and a multifunctional district that will be ideally suited to hosting this type of event in time for use in 2026.



The clubs dismissed the restructuring of the Meazza too quickly

The decision that AC Milan and FC Internazionale Milano have made was based on a careful and in-depth study, undertaken over several months, during which a number of different options were assessed, including the restructuring of the Meazza. The analysis clearly showed that building a new stadium was the best option, both for the clubs and for Milano, from every perspective. A new stadium is the only way to provide a world-class experience for fans, as well as adhering to the highest standards in terms of security, sustainability and accessibility.



The renovation of the Meazza is the best option

It is not. To reach a level of quality and experience in line with the best stadiums in the world would require a dramatic restructure of the entire building. In fact, the famous “ramps”, an iconic element of the Meazza’s design, are also a significant part of the issue, as they prevent the development of any type of horizontal space within the rings. Playing during redevelopment works of this scale would result in a range of issues for the clubs, including increased construction time, significant safety and security risks, reduction of the capacity of the stadium to fewer than 45,000 seats and the requirement to play a portion of their home matches during the construction period (a number of years) outside of Milano. We believe that these conditions are unacceptable for two clubs with the stature of AC Milan and FC Internazionale Milano, and for their fans.



The clubs have no respect for "La Scala” of Football

AC Milan and FC Internazionale Milano have huge respect and admiration for the Meazza Stadium. It will always have a special place in football history thanks to the successes of the great teams that it has housed from both clubs. However, the respect for this history, the culture of football in Milano and the privileged position of FC Internazionale Milano and AC Milan in the global game is exactly what is driving the clubs to look forwards. We feel a strong sense of responsibility, not just to our current fans, but also our future ones. We need to provide the teams with the conditions to become competitive once again at an international level and the supporters with an environment where they can enjoy sharing their passion for generations to come. The clubs are absolutely convinced that this has to happen in San Siro.
 

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That Manica looks like every other fucking egg shaped stadium. The populous one for me, you don’t see those types around as much. It's elevation and plan views are really nice and its façade is fucking breath taking. It just stands out so much more. Regardless, they’re both nice anyway.
 

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Regarding the last line, "this has to happen in San Siro": just to avoid any confusion, they mean the district called san siro, from which also the colloquial name of the Giuseppe Meazza stadium.
 

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In the last 10 years we averaged 47k co, we both sucked.

New stadium has to be a 70k seater instead of a 60k one that will try to milk each attendee and end up not filling up.
 

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Was there any mention on when the decision will be made on who wins the contract ?
 

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Was there any mention on when the decision will be made on who wins the contract ?

In the words of our CEO Antonello, "in the coming weeks". He explained we have to wait for the city council to approve the projects in terms of sustainability and public interest. After the approval, it will be possible to choose which one will be the new stadium, he added.
 

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Also love the populous idea of having the original meazza pitch as a part of the museum that can be reached via a glass elevator. Not Manica’s idea of having it an open park where you’ll catch a bunch of teenagers fucking.
 

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In the last 10 years we averaged 47k co, we both sucked.

New stadium has to be a 70k seater instead of a 60k one that will try to milk each attendee and end up not filling up.

Yeah 60,000 is too low. Most of the big clubs will have stadiums with far more capacity than ours. We should aim for something like 75,000 similar to Allianz arena. If we have so many people coming to an old battered San Siro which has some tiers closed and nothing going on, we would definately pull big numbers in a new stadium.
 

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Let's not forget guys that those are "idea presentations". Those are purely conceptual for now. Things can be added and also some minor things could be removed due to regulations/price/politics, etc.
 

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Apparently, the Populous stadium will have a snake welcoming the inter fans when playing at night

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Very sexy
 

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In Germany Bayern, or in England Arsenal, criticize the stadiums because there's not much atmosphere.
What did they say about this 2 stadiums about the atmosphere? Any informations?
 

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Arsenal doesn't know what atmosphere means. The away fans there in European fixtures are usually quite loud.

Bayern has other issues iirc with ticket pricing or sponsor stuff.
 
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