New Stadium

[Harpsabu]

James Horncastle last night said in two years San siro becomes a listed building, so they basically can't touch it after that. Meaning renovations at a minimum etc apparently.

 

[Adriano@10]

James Horncastle last night said in two years San siro becomes a listed building, so they basically can't touch it after that. Meaning renovations at a minimum etc apparently.

Dont think it means we cannot touch it any more after that...
But this should actually put even more pressure on the city to try and keep one of us or bbilan in there da faq are they gonna do with a stadium that is a listed building in which nobody plays? Make it the most expensive museum in the world?

 

[brehme1989]

James Horncastle last night said in two years San siro becomes a listed building, so they basically can't touch it after that. Meaning renovations at a minimum etc apparently.

It means you cannot tear it down.

But since it wasn't built in a unitary fashion, I imagine you could still tear down the 3rd tier and rebuild it or something. Although it's Italian red tape...

 

[Forzanerazzurri]

It means you cannot tear it down.

But since it wasn't built in a unitary fashion, I imagine you could still tear down the 3rd tier and rebuild it or something. Although it's Italian red tape...

That's right. It's really the original structure that's protected.

 

[Stefan]

Second tier declared historic. San Siro can't be touched.
If the club's are serious they need to build somewhere else.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1663472137833783299

 

[Jnr]

Milan will do it . They have the money and will.

 

[brehme1989]

Good news for some of us

Now finally fix it properly!

 

[qb4ever_2k]

Good news for some of us

Now finally fix it properly!

Good luck trying to fix the Colosseum what do you think it mean to be historic?

 

[CafeCordoba]

I went there for the first time around two weeks ago and it is quite a place. I kind of got mixed feelings over blowing it all up.

Maybe they figure out some kind of incentivized model so that the stadium is renovated properly and clubs benefit from it financially as well. Investments to the surrounding area etc?

 

[brehme1989]

I went there for the first time around two weeks ago and it is quite a place. I kind of got mixed feelings over blowing it all up.

Maybe they figure out some kind of incentivized model so that the stadium is renovated properly and clubs benefit from it financially as well. Investments to the surrounding area etc?

I've been to hundreds of stadiums.

Honestly, none in Europe has a greater feeling than the Meazza.

The closest is the Bernabeu, but reserving further judgment until it's done being renovated.

And this doesn't stem from some sort of bias, recently a lot of people I know went there for a game for the first time and they support random PL teams or just random teams in general. They all agree that it's special.

It just has this effect when you stare it from afar as if it's the hottest model in the world and once you get inside it's just a remarkable feeling of losing your breath momentarily only to realize that you're indeed inside such a sporting venue specimen.

It's hard to fall in love with buildings, even as someone who professionally kinda creates them from scratch, but what you get there is unmatched.


As to how to fix it. Well, scrap the 3rd tier and add corporate shit there, improve the existing areas, maybe add a 3rd tier on one end, fix the plumbing (seriously) and the basic infrastructure, replace the seats and you have the best stadium in the world.

 

[crzdcolombian]

haha yea... I went there many times and loved it. Honestly fix the seating and the bathrooms.

I live near NYC and they tore down Giants stadium like 10 years ago to build a new Giants stadium. It felt exactly the same. All they did was have nicer bathrooms and corp boxes + the concession stands are inside with heat instead of being outside in the freezing cold during the winter.

It's like wtf they had to spend a few billion to do that bullshit?

I just don't get how you fix the plumbing in a building that old or add Corp boxes.

Regardless unless we own it aren't we fk'd financially?

 

[ADRossi]

Regardless unless we own it aren't we fk'd financially?

Yes. This is the lede. Until we own our own stadium, none of this matters.

 

[interman]

This is unbelievable, San Siro is iconic because of Inter and Milan and this son of a bi*** says that Monza has asked for it if we leave.

We have to move, build our new and modern stadium and then they can stick San Siro to Berlusconi]s ass, lets see how he will maintain it.

 

[brehme1989]

Anyone saying we cannot get commercial revenue in our own stadium in Milano has no idea of how crazy things are concert-wise in the city these weeks...

 

[Capo]

Anyone saying we cannot get commercial revenue in our own stadium in Milano has no idea of how crazy things are concert-wise in the city these weeks...

Isn’t that the rub of the green?

I’m not close to this project, nor know of the details.

But why would the city want to lose the rights when bands like cold play pay the council the markup instead of Milan and Inter? Can anyone comment from what is the council reservation, e.g disbenefits? Surely there would have been a report provided by all three parties outlining the viability. I assume it just not proceeding due to politics only…

I personally think they need to renovate the San Siro and spend 1-1.5B on it. To ensure this is top notch renovation. But again Italy just has a way of shooting itself in the foot to stop investment.

 

[brehme1989]

Isn’t that the rub of the green?

I’m not close to this project, nor know of the details.

But why would the city want to lose the rights when bands like cold play pay the council the markup instead of Milan and Inter? Can anyone comment from what is the council reservation, e.g disbenefits? Surely there would have been a report provided by all three parties outlining the viability. I assume it just not proceeding due to politics only…

I personally think they need to renovate the San Siro and spend 1-1.5B on it. To ensure this is top notch renovation. But again Italy just has a way of shooting itself in the foot to stop investment.

The reason is that the council makes something like 10m in rent from both the clubs plus all the other additional revenue that comes with it.

All these events are outsourced and the council's benefits aren't that significant as all they do is book the stadium and give a very small share of revenue. But if you're Inter (or Milan) you could simply have your own events company with the benefit of not having to pay

Difference here is that if Inter and/or Milan build a new stadium elsewhere that's privately owned, the council loses the sure revenue which is the rent - and Italian bureaucrats love the sure things for budgeting reasons - and they have a rival for events hosting. And most people don't want to deal with the public sector for these things. Plus, new infrastructure over old stadium would win most times, even if it's not as large.

It's not like you're gonna have Beyonce at the new stadium and Iron Maiden at the Meazza on the same day, let alone weekend.


The problem is that the council doesn't understand that it can gain more by privatizing shit. But they may have to lay off people from the public sector and that's a big no no in these countries, so they're puzzled about it. And there's hardly any offices where the job description is nothing left for more people to be included.

 

[crzdcolombian]

We want to pay a 7m in 3 installments

Why is this thread not closed by the mods!

This is as likely as me time traveling and knocking up Taylor swift. Not happening

 

[Jnr]

https://www.calcioefinanza.it/2023/07/13/progetto-milan-stadio-san-donato/


Milan moved fast. Bought the company that owned the huge land. And it has all the legality to build sports complex there, stadium included.

Poor Suning can't afford even a meal @Botinero , let alone build our own place.

I would like to hear some words from Salah and the Milano municipality dinosaurs. All the future juice flowing out of Milano bank accounts.

 

[Il Drago]

https://www.calcioefinanza.it/2023/07/13/progetto-milan-stadio-san-donato/


Milan moved fast. Bought the company that owned the huge land. And it has all the legality to build sports complex there, stadium included.

Poor Suning can't afford even a meal @Botinero , let alone build our own place.

I would like to hear some words from Salah and the Milano municipality dinosaurs. All the future juice flowing out of Milano bank accounts.

It's rumoured Inter are focused on Rozzano. Not saying i believe we will buy an area there. Just what media report.

 

[William]

I’m happy for AC tbh they’ve managed to say fuck you to the mayor and all the Italian bullshit holding back progress. All while leaving out broke asses behind!

Meanwhile, I’m hoping this puts real pressure on our owners (from the fans there) to get the fucking finger out and stop being bitched around.