La Grande Inter
La Grande Inter
- Jan 17, 2005
10 years of FIF
Most Passionate Member
Facts in this case are subjective. Because you are eliminating the context. And the definitions. And why etymologically they are worded this way.Yes, an American using facts as opposed to your European vibes and feelings
I know we'll never agree on this.
Stop. He was Oriundo, like most of the other "foreigners" from Argentina that have historically played for Italy. Like do you understand the term jus sanguinis at all? That's how most of the world operates. Most of the world is not America with their ridiculous birthright citizenship (look how well that's going for them). This is in no way comparable to the modern French, Dutch, Swiss, etc. teams that go gifting out passports to players from all around the world. You even have an Italian coaching the Turkish national team now. Does any of this make any sense to you?
Nope, you really don't understand what jus sanguinis means. Cute. You should really step aside from this one bro.He was born in Argentina, grew up in Argentina, and played for Argentina. That is, by definition, an Argentinian. He would have never played a second of football for Italy if Mussolini didn't show up at his door with a cash offer.
You can sit here and wax poetic about how things used to be, or you can accept the reality that things haven't changed at all. They're just on a larger, more corporate scale because there's even more money in the sport. This nonsense has been going on since the sport was invented. Enjoy international football for what it is and move on.
Yeah I got the reference. Hilarious.
This nationality thing is a hilarious circular debate that will never have a conclusion.
Having said that, I stand on the AD
Rossi side of the circle because I'm an Irish/English/German/Dutch immigrant who was born in Australia.
I honestly love how people in such colonial nations have traces of their heritage and carry them through generations.
It's uncommon for 3rd generation migrants in Europe to have much sense of where their ancestry is from and they just get attached to wherever they were born and become defensive as if it's some sort of insult to have a diverse set of ancestors.
Everyone should know where their grandparents hail from at least
Anyway, international break over, random discussion also over for me
Lol and who decided this? You?Your away a day and then all went south
Also nationality used today is not being defined out from ethnicity . There is not many and there has never been many countries with a single ethnicity even if you use the most basic dumb definition.
Also ethnicity isn’t surely about genetic origin but is a multifaceted definition and it’s also wildly argued if this isn’t just another brain fart man made social construction with limited hold in reality.
Also italians like most other nationalities now come in all sort of colours, beliefs and shapes. Just as a dane isn’t just a tall, white blond individual with blue eyes, christian beliefs that eat pork with pork, it’s also muslims of middle east appearance and buddhist of asian appearances etc. There just ain’t no definition of what a dane is other then one who holds a Danish citizenship, if you feel like a Dane your a dane, don’t matter how you look like, what you eat, your religion or beliefs or philosophy of life.