Nico Paz

[vex]

At this point the club is at, I think we might need to accept some conditions we might not like

I really don't care about the point we are at, we should have dignity even in difficult situations. I don't want this dude to end up being another barella and then real madrid just comes in and scoops the finish product. I can somehow stomach being broke and having to constantly hustle to get the deals done but accepting to be a developing academy even with some financial compensation would be a new low, at least for me.

 

[PHM1605]

I really don't care about the point we are at, we should have dignity even in difficult situations. I don't want this dude to end up being another barella and then real madrid just comes in and scoops the finish product. I can somehow stomach being broke and having to constantly hustle to get the deals done but accepting to be a developing academy even with some financial compensation would be a new low, at least for me.

Depends on the compensation amount. Would you make another e.g. Hakimi deal if the chance arrive? As painful as it had been, he helped us to another Scudetto and brought 25m extra to the pocket.. I would take that money in a heartbeat because Inter is a smalller club than Real and that's a fact.

 

[vex]

This isn't about inter being a bigger or smaller club, this is us potentially accepting a role of feeder club, and whatever financial gain we get from it when you strip it all down you are left with that derogatory description. We are a smaller club compared to literally the biggest club in the world, but we shouldn't act like we are villareal, getafe or sevilla as well.

 

[Interis7a]

No Paz at Inter this summer, I’m virtually sure. I suppose that a lot of big clubs in Europe are watching him and those clubs have enough money

 

[Kramerica Industries]

No Paz at Inter this summer, I’m virtually sure. I suppose that a lot of big clubs in Europe are watching him and those clubs have enough money

The most likely outcome, regardless, is Paz being at Madrid long-term. At this point, I've gotten pretty pessimistic about the chances of him being sold without buyback attachments included. He's getting better with every game.

 

[Il Drago]

Depends on the compensation amount. Would you make another e.g. Hakimi deal if the chance arrive? As painful as it had been, he helped us to another Scudetto and brought 25m extra to the pocket.. I would take that money in a heartbeat because Inter is a smalller club than Real and that's a fact.

We made 25m profit on Hakimi because we were the ones to set the price. But if you accept a buyback clause then the price is set by Real. And you can be certain they won't leave a big margin for profit.

For example, Real sold Morata to Juve for 20m and they inserted a 30m buyback clause. Paz himself was bought for 6m and Real have a 9m buyback clause.

If Paz ends up as good as we hope, then Inter's profit is gonna be limited.

 

[CafeCordoba]

We made 25m profit on Hakimi because we were the ones to set the price. But if you accept a buyback clause then the price is set by Real. And you can be certain they won't leave a big margin for profit.

For example, Real sold Morata to Juve for 20m and they inserted a 30m buyback clause. Paz himself was bought for 6m and Real have a 9m buyback clause.

If Paz ends up as good as we hope, then Inter's profit is gonna be limited.

Real doesn't set the buyback by themselves. They need to negotiate it. Yes they can always keep the guy but player has a say too where he wants to be.

It's still a long way before Paz could play for Real but maybe a bit shorter to play for Inter. It's a bit of feeder club vibe for sure, cannot be denied.

Real doesn't have players who cost them 20-25m usually. Their level is higher. So they need to keep doing these low cost sell and buyback schemes but do they prepare the player for playing for them? At Inter he'd play for titles, all kinds of. That pressure can't be simulate anywhere else than these kind of clubs. So there is some leverage for Inter too when dealing with them. It would probably be better deal than 20m buy, 30m buyback.

But in general I agree I don't want Inter to be feeder club with those buybacks. I'm just in love with Paz as a player so I'm willing to do an exception here.

 

[PHM1605]

We made 25m profit on Hakimi because we were the ones to set the price. But if you accept a buyback clause then the price is set by Real. And you can be certain they won't leave a big margin for profit.

For example, Real sold Morata to Juve for 20m and they inserted a 30m buyback clause. Paz himself was bought for 6m and Real have a 9m buyback clause.

If Paz ends up as good as we hope, then Inter's profit is gonna be limited.

Then skip him. It's also our decision to make whether we agree to Real's set price or not. Either they must increase the price, or else they risk another Gueler whom rarely sees the light on their bench and deteriorating value of their current gem.

Yes Real can continue to choose (another) Como as their feeder club. But 25m is probably the maximum small teams can boost their players value. The jump of quality from Como to Real is almost impossible but Como-Inter-Real is a step-by-step.

Tough to admit, but we need money and we should do something we weren't used to to generate money. Developing youngster is one. Sacrificing one big-value player to get several market opportunities with high quality/cost is one. That was why I suggested to sell Lautaro when Guirassy was available for 18m peanuts, but nobody shared my boat. Stepping down the "pride" a bit to get more cash, or else we always stuck in the "fuck owner xxx" cycle while the core is gradually downgrading due to high age.

 

[Il Drago]

That was why I suggested to sell Lautaro when Guirassy was available for 18m peanuts, but nobody shared my boat. Stepping down the "pride" a bit to get more cash, or else we always stuck in the "fuck owner xxx" cycle while the core is gradually downgrading due to high age.

Now that you mention Guirassy. Even when i suggested him over Taremi, he still wasn't a popular option. When his name was mentioned people were arguing he was one season wonder while Taremi was more proven because of his goals in CL. That aged well.

Regardless, i don't think Oaktree would ever spend 20m transfer fee on a 28-year old. They're focusing on different profiles.

 

[DARi0]

When asked about Paz specifically, Suwardo replied:

“We have no intention of selling any of our players, at least not in the near future. Maybe in three or four years, because it would be naive to say that player sales aren’t part of the business.

“And we’re not short on money, we are well-backed,” he concluded.

This seems like a dig at Marotta.

Como were the heaviest spenders in Serie A over the January transfer window, spending close to €50m on the likes of Maxence Caqueret, Assane Diao, Anastasios Douvikas and Jean Butez.

 

[Il Drago]

When asked about Paz specifically, Suwardo replied:

This seems like a dig at Marotta.

Como were the heaviest spenders in Serie A over the January transfer window, spending close to €50m on the likes of Maxence Caqueret, Assane Diao, Anastasios Douvikas and Jean Butez.

I don't think it's a dig at anyone. Just the truth that they have a wealthy owner. Most people probably don't know it but Como's owner is the wealthiest in Serie A, even more wealthy than Agnellis.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Yeah and Real controls the kid still (if the buyback clause is true). But I wouldn't be surprised if Paz actually wanted to stay there for another season, but let's hope Zanetti bonding with his dad has a positive effect.

 

[JJM]

We can only get him if Real Madrid wanna park him at a better club than Como and then get him back when they please. Or they give up on him...which they probably won't.

 

[Kramerica Industries]

Yeah and Real controls the kid still (if the buyback clause is true). But I wouldn't be surprised if Paz actually wanted to stay there for another season, but let's hope Zanetti bonding with his dad has a positive effect.

Madrid include either buybacks or rights of first refusal (often with sizable sell-on clauses) with every single academy product they sell. Nico's potential has been well known for some time. And there was the report two or so weeks ago about Como wanting to buyout the buyback clauses, to which immediate Madrid said "...nah".

 

[Corrode]

I don't think it's a dig at anyone. Just the truth that they have a wealthy owner. Most people probably don't know it but Como's owner is the wealthiest in Serie A, even more wealthy than Agnellis.

Thanks to Como's owner business, Djarum Group, reaching top business in Indonesia and SEA region. Djarum Group business, such as Djarum (cigarettes), Polytron (electronics), Mola (TV streaming service), tiket.com (online travel service), BCA (a big Indonesian private bank), and other business.

 

[SiamoNoi]

This deal is sadly not happening. Onto the next one.

 

[sdvroot]

 

[Jnr]

This deal is sadly not happening. Onto the next one.

Its down to Real Madrid to decide. They have option on him on every summer , can trigger.

Also Real could agree to a sale to another club , they have 50% sell on fee.

If we really want Paz, we basically need to give one of our stars to Real. Its the only way. Make a deal with them to take him back & deal with us

And also you do not want a deal where Real Madrid has a buyback option.

Basically its such a complex transfer dealing it might be best to stay away, the kid is Real bound one day anyway, but maybe if Nico is pressuring Como to leave etc and really wants us ( Lauti influence) . But we don't do these dirty tactics.

 

[YoramG]

I think we might as well close this thread, he's exploded beyond our financial capabilities.

 

[morrisama]

Another bad luck for us . the kid scores again today which means the price will be skyrocketing or Real might decide to bring him home.

Hopefully Sucic is a good signing and we are able to buy Ricci as vice Hakan in the summer. How much does Samardzic cost nowadays ? the guy has been failing to replicate his good form while he was in Udinese. I would sign him if we cant afford Paz.