Nicolò Barella

[Bluenine]

Look at Team success +/- 90, find Barella..He is far bellow team average.. You can bet that all world class players dominate in this one statistic while Barella is not even average at Inter..

https://fbref.com/en/squads/d609edc0/Internazionale-Stats#all_stats_playing_time_10730.

 

[CafeCordoba]

These advanced stats might work okay in hockey, basketball where every player on the ice/court/pitch means more as there are only few of them at the same time. In football, there are same 10 outfield players + 1 goalie on the pitch, on average for at least an hour (?). The effect of one player is considerably smaller. A fuckup A by 1-2 players is maybe a result of a fuckup B happened earlier by 1-2 other players and yet there are still 7-9 players who got nothing to do with neither of the fuckups. Same thing cannot be said in hockey/basketball, yes? There are lot more small events and big events (goals, scores) in hockey/basketball than in football so you get the data from these events to build up these advanced stats. Football is way more complex and as the events are more rare in football to build consistent stats, reducing some goals scored / allowed stat to determine the effectiveness of the player is just absolute horse shit.

I'm like totally advance stats person myself, but I'm telling you it doesn't work in football like it might work in hockey/basketball/american football.

Barella and Brozovic are by far our most important midfielders and yet in Team success +/- 90 they are on the low side, it tells everything about these stats.

 

[brehme1989]

It only really works for baseball. It being a static, contactless sport and all that.
Volleyball is the second sport where statistics matter from the big team sports.
Basketball and other fluid sports have its uses of course, but fans exaggerate them because all they can talk about it that since they can't hoop. Far too many people play football at any level for this to become a thing At least I hope so

xG and xA are a huge hipster fraud, though. There are stat lines that matter in football such as distance cover (and in what pace), passing success rate, provided we also adjust for range and difficulty and various other things. But averaging everything when it is a skill game that has contact, constant motion and 10 outfield players on each side is plain missing the point and trying to dumb it down.

 

[acroMacho]

Are you talking about 30something years old Messi?Well he is not as good as his younger self,true..Oh come on,are you kidding me?FairyTailed stats? You know its just a fan voting game, right?DD Stats that I posted are as accurate as it can be..Based on them, key players this season so far are De Vrij,Skriniar,Vidal,Lukaku,Hakimi..Do you see any inaccuracy here?

Once again:

Barella is underperfoming!!! His passing is European average and his defending is terrible!Tackles,interception,pressures,blocks,aerial wons those numbers are really really bad for midfielder playing for Inter!!
You say he is warior..Yeah he is warior but very weak warior,som kind of funny chihuahua..He end on the ground in almost every body to body duel..
I cant see any of the players I mentioned above would respect this young average Joe as their captain..

I am working as a computer engineer. I know how to handle data. These stats are useless. I looked at Barcelona 2015-2016. Rakitič is in front of Messi. 2014 - Marc Bartra is in front of Messi and many more.

The thing with statistics is, they can be misleading. On the other hand, people collectively are pretty good at statistics. If you have 5000 little balls in the basket and ask people how many balls are in the basket, individually you would get pretty bad results. But if you averaged those guests, you would get really close to 5000. That's why you should not underestimate Fairytailed stats. And it also explain, why you are so dumb about Barella :chan:

If you ask me, without Barella, we would not be in top 3 this season in serie A.

 

[jurkotrulko]

I am working as a computer engineer. I know how to handle data. These stats are useless. I looked at Barcelona 2015-2016. Rakitič is in front of Messi. 2014 - Marc Bartra is in front of Messi and many more.

The thing with statistics is, they can be misleading. On the other hand, people collectively are pretty good at statistics. If you have 5000 little balls in the basket and ask people how many balls are in the basket, individually you would get pretty bad results. But if you averaged those guests, you would get really close to 5000. That's why you should not underestimate Fairytailed stats. And it also explain, why you are so dumb about Barella :chan:

If you ask me, without Barella, we would not be in top 3 this season in serie A.

I was making living by playing headsup poker online for almost 6 years..I know how to handle data too..I was playing 4-6 tables at once just by watching the numbers.I know how to setup ranges based on tendencies of average person at different stakes..And also how to readjust ranges against specific type of players..Also I know how to readjust my ranges against players that I know they adjust their ranges into my ranges.
I know that by analyzing those footbal stats there is deviation,its not 100%..But if you see a big dip in all Barella stats you can be pretty shure he left behind..Vidal-Brozo-Eriksen easy Scudetto if you ask me..
Lol ball example..I wonder why it doesnt work for political election? Everyone is voting best politician possible but at the end biggest liar and thief allways win..

These advanced stats might work okay in hockey, basketball where every player on the ice/court/pitch means more as there are only few of them at the same time. In football, there are same 10 outfield players + 1 goalie on the pitch, on average for at least an hour (?). The effect of one player is considerably smaller. A fuckup A by 1-2 players is maybe a result of a fuckup B happened earlier by 1-2 other players and yet there are still 7-9 players who got nothing to do with neither of the fuckups. Same thing cannot be said in hockey/basketball, yes? There are lot more small events and big events (goals, scores) in hockey/basketball than in football so you get the data from these events to build up these advanced stats. Football is way more complex and as the events are more rare in football to build consistent stats, reducing some goals scored / allowed stat to determine the effectiveness of the player is just absolute horse shit.

I'm like totally advance stats person myself, but I'm telling you it doesn't work in football like it might work in hockey/basketball/american football.

Barella and Brozovic are by far our most important midfielders and yet in Team success +/- 90 they are on the low side, it tells everything about these stats.

I think you are looking at the +/- 90 the wrong way..Try to compare individual stats vs team average..You get better idea.If there is a good enough sample and single player stats are far above or far behind the team average than it of course mean something..Of course there is deviation.So you have other stats,passing,defending,etc..But If you see Barella sucks at all those stat indicators in means he sucks.100% acuracy.

Effect of one player is much bigger then you think..If it wasnt than red card wouldnt matter at all..Bigger the sample more accurate those stats are.

It only really works for baseball. It being a static, contactless sport and all that.
Volleyball is the second sport where statistics matter from the big team sports.
Basketball and other fluid sports have its uses of course, but fans exaggerate them because all they can talk about it that since they can't hoop. Far too many people play football at any level for this to become a thing At least I hope so

xG and xA are a huge hipster fraud, though. There are stat lines that matter in football such as distance cover (and in what pace), passing success rate, provided we also adjust for range and difficulty and various other things. But averaging everything when it is a skill game that has contact, constant motion and 10 outfield players on each side is plain missing the point and trying to dumb it down.

Of course more stats included better valuation you get..Look at Barella average passing and terrible defending statistics..
Why you so blindly defend Barella?All of his stats clearly tell different story then his blind fan club.

 

[K.I.]

I was making living by playing headsup poker online for almost 6 years..I know how to handle data too..I was playing 4-6 tables at once just by watching the numbers.I know how to setup ranges based on tendencies of average person at different stakes..And also how to readjust ranges against specific type of players..Also I know how to readjust my ranges against players that I know they adjust their ranges into my ranges.
I know that by analyzing those footbal stats there is deviation,its not 100%..But if you see a big dip in all Barella stats you can be pretty shure he left behind..Vidal-Brozo-Eriksen easy Scudetto if you ask me..
You mean those Fairytailed stats that I allways put 1 as a deffault for Barella?



I think you are looking at the +/- 90 the wrong way..Try to compare individual stats vs team average..You get better idea.If there is a good enough sample and single player stats are far above or far behind the team average than it of course mean something..Of course there is deviation.So you have other stats,passing,defending,etc..But If you see Barella sucks at all those stat indicators in means he sucks.100% acuracy.

Effect of one player is much bigger then you think..If it wasnt than red card wouldnt matter at all..Bigger the sample more accurate those stats are.



Of course more stats included better valuation you get..Look at Barella average passing and terrible defending statistics..
Why you so blindly defend Barella?All of his stats clearly tell different story then his blind fan club.

Average passing and terrible defending compared to what? to the team stats? and if a player is doing more in all areas of the pitch his averages across the board will go down hence u will find other midfielders with higher stats than he has in 1 or 2 areas.

 

[Universe]

I was making living by playing headsup poker online for almost 6 years..I know how to handle data too..I was playing 4-6 tables at once just by watching the numbers.I know how to setup ranges based on tendencies of average person at different stakes..And also how to readjust ranges against specific type of players..Also I know how to readjust my ranges against players that I know they adjust their ranges into my ranges.
I know that by analyzing those footbal stats there is deviation,its not 100%..But if you see a big dip in all Barella stats you can be pretty shure he left behind..Vidal-Brozo-Eriksen easy Scudetto if you ask me..

Do you actually watch the games? Or do you just read the stats afterwards like you're reading the Matrix.

 

[uzhang]

Im fif member, im master of data too


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[jurkotrulko]

Im fif member, im master of data too


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Congratulation I am proud of yourself:thumbsup:

Do you actually watch the games? Or do you just read the stats afterwards like you're reading the Matrix.

I watch the games,I see Barella is useless whole season except one game against Juventus..Then I came to this forum and read..Barella should be capitano,worth 100mil,he is young "24" and already heart of midfield..Then I asked myself was I smoking too much or was I drunk whole season?What these people are talking about?Checking the stats and I see his stats sucks the same way as he suck on the pitch..Crotone material hyped to the space the same way as Tesla stock..

 

[CoolMan44]

Congratulation I am proud of yourself:thumbsup:



I watch the games,I see Barella is useless whole season except one game against Juventus..Then I came to this forum and read..Barella should be capitano,worth 100mil,he is young "24" and already heart of midfield..Then I asked myself was I smoking too much or was I drunk whole season?What these people are talking about?Checking the stats and I see his stats sucks the same way as he suck on the pitch..Crotone material hyped to the space the same way as Tesla stock..

You can’t be watching the games if you think he’s been useful in only one game. Even if you look at just stats, he got the equalizing goal and assisted the winning goal against Cagliari.. wouldn’t your love of stats tell you that he wasn’t useless based on that alone?

Not to mention he also got the winning goal recently against Fiorentina as well..

 

[K.I.]

Congratulation I am proud of yourself:thumbsup:



I watch the games,I see Barella is useless whole season except one game against Juventus..Then I came to this forum and read..Barella should be capitano,worth 100mil,he is young "24" and already heart of midfield..Then I asked myself was I smoking too much or was I drunk whole season?What these people are talking about?Checking the stats and I see his stats sucks the same way as he suck on the pitch..Crotone material hyped to the space the same way as Tesla stock..

What do you see that makes him useless?

 

[Broseph Stalin]

Then I asked myself was I smoking too much or was I drunk whole season?.

I'm asking myself the same question tbh. Mind giving your dealer's #?

 

[Candreva Crosses]

Nothing worse than a Milan troll on this forum except a fucking Milan troll who can't write.

 

[brehme1989]

Of course more stats included better valuation you get..Look at Barella average passing and terrible defending statistics..
Why you so blindly defend Barella?All of his stats clearly tell different story then his blind fan club.

Why would I look at something flawed when all the information I need is already processed?

Care to explain which stats he falls short in at, what these stats measure, what's the benchmark, what the variables are, how his competition looks and most importantly, what data each stat line is using to synthesize the outcome?
You're a professional, I'm pretty sure you can break it down point to point with ease.

 

[Javier'sSon]

Barella is useless?











































































































:trollol:

 

[brehme1989]

Barella is useless

:trollol:

Stupid Stretcher doesn't even have wheels. Useless I tell you!

 

[Zoro]

In which universe young capitano= good capitano?I think opposite is true.. However Barrella is talented and joy to watch how he fights..But..There is a lot of hype just because he is "young"?Come on,he is 24!Not that young anymore..He is also far from consistent..Actually based on team performance stats he is far bellow average..He is lucky,carried by Hakimi,Brozo,Skriniar,De Vrij,Lukaku around him..I cant see these players would respect Barella as a Captain... Please stop this Barella hype nonsense, he got still a lot to learn from his better performing teammates- midfielders Brozo and Vidal..

Let's say you had a leg to stand on - which you don't. In what world is brozovic carrying barella XD

 

[brakbrak]

I think we can safely conclude that the dude is trolling. Best way to get rid of trolls is by not feeding them.

 

[K.I.]

I think everyone here is prob wrong and he is right

 

[varmin]

I watch the games,I see Barella is useless whole season except one game against Juventus..Then I came to this forum and read..Barella should be capitano,worth 100mil,he is young "24" and already heart of midfield..Then I asked myself was I smoking too much or was I drunk whole season?What these people are talking about?Checking the stats and I see his stats sucks the same way as he suck on the pitch..Crotone material hyped to the space the same way as Tesla stock..

Paratici, is that you?