Offensive midfielder issue

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I never see we play emre/stan/kara without DM...(Christiano, Almeyda, Farinos or even Javier Zanetti)...

in 3-5-2 , CZ or Farinos or Almeyda will play paring with emre or stan or kara

but I agree with you that kara or stan can play as an AM, but if wee look at our current situation....

I would choose emre and stan as more defensive creative midfielder
(just like pirlo)
and Karagounis or recoba in more advanced position...

If we release Cruz, Kallon(too rich upfront), Almeyda(retired), and Lamouchi...

VDM should play in Kara/Recoba's role... or he play in that position but more as a flank forward... (we change our formation to 3-4-3)...

singin a pure AM (totti, aimar or diego) would be good, but it will cause VDM forced out of formation..

we really are packed in the middle, even if relese 4 or five players...
what we need is to keep our midfielders happy and healty...

I don;t see our coach and management have given karagounis full trust..
but i really see he has what it takes... Kara has to play more and gain the trust...


let me visualize what i think:


----------------- Toldo


------- Canna --- Matrix/Adani ---- Cordoba/Mexes

JZ /Ze Maria -- Farinos/C Zanetti/Beati -- Emre/Stan -- Kily/ Pasquale/ Brechet


------------------- Kara/Recoba/VDM

--------------- Vieri/Adriano --- Oba/Recoba

reserves (not even rotated, only played when everybody's unavailable):
Okan, Helveg, Gamara. Cordaz. Fontana, Cordaz
 

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guys, I don't think that the DM is our main problem, we already have two good DM's, C. Zanetti and Almeyda.

For next year, the best move will be to short the squad a little, and to sign a good players in our weak possisions.
We should release: okan, helveg, lamouschi, gammara, kallon, farinos, guly (loaned) and ventola (loaned).
We should bring: good coach!, Mexes\Metzelder\Lucio, Ballack\Diego\Totti, Frey (as a sub fo a while) and Van der Vaart.
And i want to see the formation like this:
---------------------Toldo------------------
J. Zanetti---Canna------Matrix------coco
-------------------C. Zanetti---------------
V. der Meyde----------------V. der Vaart
-----------Totti\Ballack\Diego-------------
----------Vieri-----Adriano\Recoba--------
and bench: Frey, Mexes\Metzelder, Emre, Cruz, Kara, Almeyda, Adani, Beati, Biava.
 

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AFAIK, almeyda is retiring..., if he stays he's a good backup for Cristiano..
 
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Even if it isn´t related to this topic;

Nerazzurri8, I think you have forgotten a certain Cordoba. ;)
 

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Cordoba as sub??? Over my dead body. ;) He's undoubtedly and unarguably been a better defender than Cannavaro over the last 2 seasons and benching one of our most passionate player will be a slap to him. Cordoba and Matrix enjoyed a good season when they were partners in defence in Cuper's first season. Forza Ivan Ramiro Cordoba!!!

Sorry for discussing about a defender in an offensive midfielder topic though.


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we shud play with back 4.... and a diamond midfield.....

dunnu, if we would get totti or ??, but this won't be bad

-----------c.zanetti/?---------
stankovic-------------b.emre
------------a.recoba----------

not to forget - KARAGOUNIS.......

i don't think we would need any new players in this department unless we buy a super player like Totti / Ronaldinho / Aimar / ? hehe

:D

stankovic - he should be given time to settle here in inter....... same is the case for adriano
 

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I agree with Pravesh..Unless its a big name that will have effect like Totti its not worth getting...Just get young players with potential in the positions we need...Now we really have a big midfield and strike force so reenforce our back line....

Plus if we go with the back 4 the middle of our defence should be like this

--------Canna/Cordoba-----Adani/Matrix--------

This combination in there will always leave our players fresh and less likely to get injured because of stress on them.Sorry i didnt want to drag the defence in this thread bu ti saw that Cordoba as a sub thing and couldnt refrain myself from talking about it :D
 

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I think that during the offseason our main focus should be our backline and all we need is one young CB (Ferriera? Mexes?) and then we are sorta all set. Though if Cambiasso is coming back then we should get rid of Lamouchi. If Almeyda is retiring then bring back Beati...
 

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BDragon2k2 said:
I think that during the offseason our main focus should be our backline and all we need is one young CB (Ferriera? Mexes?) and then we are sorta all set. Though if Cambiasso is coming back then we should get rid of Lamouchi. If Almeyda is retiring then bring back Beati...
Get rid of Lamochi either way...A primavera player is better off in his position of not getting enough playing time but when he does he is actually growing.I wouldnt be upset if a promavera player isnt doing well because he is only going to get better but Lamouchi is way beyond that point.
 

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BDragon2k2 said:
I think that during the offseason our main focus should be our backline and all we need is one young CB (Ferriera? Mexes?) and then we are sorta all set. Though if Cambiasso is coming back then we should get rid of Lamouchi. If Almeyda is retiring then bring back Beati...

Lamouchi will surely leave Inter. No doubt ! :stuckup:

Almeyda might most probably retire from football. And as it definitely seems that Cambiasso will join Inter, it will only help Almeyda's decision to retire, I guess. :confused:

As I said earlier on, we will have these players : Karagounis, Stankovic, Emre, C.Zanetti (?), Cambiasso (?), Biava, .....

It's a good midfield department. And could be a great one if supported by playmaker (if used), not to mention that we shud play as a team....

And ofcourse as BDragon said, we also need to get a defender like Mexes/Metzelder/??

c'mmon Moratti !! Bring Totti ....or.... Ronaldinho !! :D

And I still think that for all these, Zach should be sacked..... I don't trust him at all :(

:)
 

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Antti said:
Hamed said:
We don't have a good sweeper but we have two very good man-markers.

Ever heard about Materazzi?

Materazzi is passionate and is a good leader, but unfortunately he isn't what we need as a sweeper. He'd make a good back-up but we do need a star sweeper.
 

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Materazzi is one of the most under-rated defender in the planet. He's not as good as the Samuels and Nestas but he's definitely among top 10 when it comes to the sweeper position. Undoubtedly or best defender this season before he got injured. I can't wait for his comeback!!! Forza Marco!!!


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Hamed said:
Antti said:
Hamed said:
We don't have a good sweeper but we have two very good man-markers.

Ever heard about Materazzi?

Materazzi is passionate and is a good leader, but unfortunately he isn't what we need as a sweeper. He'd make a good back-up but we do need a star sweeper.
Matrix has been a great player ever since he first stepped into the San Siro. I think you're giving him too little credit here - along with Cordoba, he has formed what has been a rather consistent, good backline for the last few seasons. :)

Ciao,
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He's been good no doubt but he is not what we need; we don't need good players we need excellent players. The thing i don't like about Materazzi is his reckless style. All sweepers must be physical and that's right, but Materazzi makes dangerous tackles that can put us a man down at any time. I can recall many such incidents and to say the truth everytime i see him play i put my hand in my heart fearing one of his wild tackles will result in a penalty or him being sent-off. When it comes to strong character, nonetheless, there is no one like him not even JZ.
 

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Materazzi's fine, he rarely cost us any penalty (if ever). Besides, it's important having a player who does the dirty work. Defenders SHOULD be very aggressive.
 

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Yes. Agree. Matrix rarely cost us penalties. If I'm not wrong, Cannavaro is the defender that costed us most penalties in the last 2 seasons. Man, I don't give a rat a$$ if Matrix is a rough defender. I think it's absolutely a shame that Matrix has been labelled as an average defender because he's been rough to Milan players. You can be rough and but a great player at the same time. I think you're one of those media-victimised fan dude. ;)

I mean, look at Gattuso, Roy Keane, Scholes and Gerrard. All are great players and all of them tackles as hard or even harder than Matrix!!! I want Matrix to be like that too. I want him to have this image of an angry yet passionate player. Matrix is one of my most favourite player in Inter, honestly. :proud:


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I am not worried about Matrix roughness right now just his match fitness plus we have seen Cordoba get a couple of red cards this season along with Almeyda..and stupid yellows that got some players suspended for next games...compared to the other players in that departnment Matrix has been quite when he plays besides that extra roughness
 

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You are right he doesn't cost us penalties as much as Cannavaro but maybe that's cause he played less this year. I was referring to the 3-0 arsenal game when he almost killed our momentum by committing a needless penalty by pushing Ljunberg when he wasn't even in a dangerous position. Add to that some games when he comitted dubious tackles that could've gone against us like the ajax return game last year.

There other dirty players like Vieri, Keane and etc. But these guys do it in a professional way. You have to admit the way Matrix tackles is really vicious. In the Euro-derby last year he did one of the worse tackles i've seen when he kicked Shevcheno (or Kaladze) in the balls with his knees, that was dangerous. Matrix is like Ferraro and Montero, namely rough defenders that you like to have in your team but loath when playing aginst. His aggression and leadership is second to none in the team and i just hope that he stops his wild tackles and then he'd be a great player.
 
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