Quarter Final: Netherlands - Argentina

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VAR apparently keeps track and decides. 10 did seem excessive, I expected something like 7.
What is your source this "fact"? I've never heard VAR tracking stoppages and decides how many more mins to add.
 

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What is your source this "fact"? I've never heard VAR tracking stoppages and decides how many more mins to add.

Collina himself. It used to be the fourth official for the 2018 WC but now it's apparently VAR.

I am not talking about VAR intervention, this is something which is different and calculated by the Video Assistant Referee in a very precise way. Even at the time I was a referee, the info [on added time] came from the fourth official, you are too much focused on what’s going on that it’s possible not to consider something. It’s the fourth official who usually proposes the amount of added time and the referee tends to decide…and decides.
 

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Let's be real, extra time matters little when your name is Messi and your hands ball is not even considered a foul, let alone shooting a rocket into your opponent's dugout. No, you will just get the softest penalty in WC history instead.

It's wild that these people are whining about the ref, who probably has Messi posters in his bedroom.
 

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Collina himself. It used to be the fourth official for the 2018 WC but now it's apparently VAR.
Ah, good to know. But ultimately the ref makes the decision.
 

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Let's be real, extra time matters little when your name is Messi and your hands ball is not even considered a foul, let alone shooting a rocket into your opponent's dugout. No, you will just get the softest penalty in WC history instead.

It's wild that these people are whining about the ref, who probably has Messi posters in his bedroom.
This is the ref who is apparently hating Messi from La Liga and Barcelona have problems with him.


He is just bad,that's all.
 

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The commentator on the stream i was watching actually brought this up funnily enough.

Same with our commentator. The fucker also had to comment before Lautaro's penalty that he was the only player who missed more chances than Lukaku in this tournament 😭
 

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Anyone knows why Paredes kicked the ball to Dutch bench?
 

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Apparently Argentinian players were pissed off by both dutch players and Van gaal' comments before the match where they were belittling Argentina team like we need to neutralize Messi only and that's it. Messi is uselless without the ball, we along with brazilians play the most beautiful football and blah blah blah.

You don't talk shit like that about south americans, especially the ones who were on asado for like 2 weeks :)
 

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Apparently Argentinian players were pissed off by both dutch players and Van gaal' comments before the match where they were belittling Argentina team like we need to neutralize Messi only and that's it. Messi is uselless without the ball, we along with brazilians play the most beautiful football and blah blah blah.

You don't talk shit like that about south americans, especially the ones who were on asado for like 2 weeks :)
He was right about Messi. Also, lets not act like South Americans are some angels. Emi Martinez bitching and cussing at van Gaal was not necessary. Mate you play for Aston Villa and are pretty much a nobody, calm down.
 

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Argentina players a lot of them are aggressive in game and play act a lot complain a lot but Parades to me is another level. The counter to that is the Netherlands talked a lot before the game and a lot of the players like Messi and others get fouled a ton and its an important game but tempers flying was going to happen regardless.

But i read that Dumfries as well was approaching Arg players before every spot kick, that to me looks bad i never heard of a player doing that before. Could be Otamendi exaggerating not sure.
 

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Argentina players a lot of them are aggressive in game and play act a lot complain a lot but Parades to me is another level. The counter to that is the Netherlands talked a lot before the game and a lot of the players like Messi and others get fouled a ton and its an important game but tempers flying was going to happen regardless.

But i read that Dumfries as well was approaching Arg players before every spot kick, that to me looks bad i never heard of a player doing that before. Could be Otamendi exaggerating not sure.
both Holland and Argentina players were acting like morons. My problem is with Messi and Emi Martinez going to talk to van Gaal for something he anwsered at a press conference. And btw, he didn't even say anything bad. Like grow the fuck up and just take the win.
Also Messi saying how he doens't like van Gaal's tactics. Like, who the fuck cares. Argentina plays like shit without you and most of the time with you as well.
 

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Yah i agree its all bubbling prob because a lot of factors, dont forgt Di maria and Van Gaal also have some history there, so yah Arg players are rubbing it in and talking, is what it is.
 

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VG and south american players are a bad fit. Former Brazilian player Rafael said van Gaal "hates Brazilian players" and Giovanni once called him "Hitler of the Brazilian players".
 

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Dumfries doesn't seem like a provocative player at all. I have never seen him bitching against opponent players or commiting any unsportsmanlike conduct. I definitely think Argies are overreacting, and their behaviour was disgraceful. The referring was also pathetic. I really hope Argentina will crash soon, cannot stand their attitude.
 

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VG and south american players are a bad fit. Former Brazilian player Rafael said van Gaal "hates Brazilian players" and Giovanni once called him "Hitler of the Brazilian players".
True, and before the game Di Maria was the one roasting Van Gaal and calling him the worst manager he's ever seen etc. literally out of the blue and for no reason.

Van Gaal's response was "He's entitled to his opinion, but I've never heard that before".

But somehow these Argies are the ones offended, because Van Gaal spoke about having some plan to try and neutralize Messi (who wouldn't try that?), which was simply another answer - to one of the 4000 journalists who asked him about this. You need some serious therapy if this angers you, let alone to the point where you keep carrying it around until the game is over, only to then let it out with provocations towards LVG / some players. Absolutely pathetic stone age beta males

Sounds like people who just love to lash out towards others, but can't take the slightest hint of their own medicine in return. Bunch of degenerates, hope Croatia can teach the worst team left in the WC some humility.
 

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Lahoz was absolutely the wrong choice for this game. Hopefully he doesn't feature anymore in this World Cup.
 

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Dumfries doesn't seem like a provocative player at all. I have never seen him bitching against opponent players or commiting any unsportsmanlike conduct. I definitely think Argies are overreacting, and their behaviour was disgraceful. The referring was also pathetic. I really hope Argentina will crash soon, cannot stand their attitude.
Dumfries got yellow during the penalties cause of his behaviour.


Whole team was dirty.
 
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