Radja Nainggolan

[wambam]

Thohir's money is going to Moratti's pockets.

Must have some high quality pants to fit 120m in his pockets

 

[homaru]

Isn't Thohir's money just going into a new stadium and shit? Why am I under the impression that he's not here for transfers?

It will be mostly for the stadium, but he will give us money for transfers. If Thohir is smart, he will only give money for transfers that we need, not for stupid wastes of money.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Yeah but Thorir would be a fucking idiot not to make sure that the money would somehow get reinvested back into the club.


If Moratti keeps it all he'd get assassinated lol

What the hell are you talking about? It's Moratti's fucking money. He has poured over 1 BILLION euros to this club in his time at Inter. I don't think no one should require him to put a cent more to it if he doesn't want to.

 

[Pharaoh]

What the hell are you talking about? It's Moratti's fucking money. He has poured over 1 BILLION euros to this club in his time at Inter. I don't think no one should require him to put a cent more to it if he doesn't want to.

The whole point of this deal is finding new investors to get fund transfers, if it ends up not going into the club what the hell is the point?

 

[.h.]

The whole point of this deal is finding new investors to get fund transfers, if it ends up not going into the club what the hell is the point?

new owner would be a good start. the problem since the treble hasnt been money, its been how we've invested it.

 

[Pharaoh]

new owner would be a good start. the problem since the treble hasnt been money, its been how we've invested it.

I don't mind moratti as the owner, but the shit that bothers me is when we have funding and then we still can't close deals for our tier 1 players.

But then august comes and we start scrambling =/

 

[.h.]

I don't mind moratti as the owner, but the shit that bothers me is when we have funding and then we still can't close deals for our tier 1 players.

But then august comes and we start scrambling =/

and who is to blame aside from moratti?

all problems in this club trace back to moratti. if its not him directly, its the people we appoint. Anything that has occured at inter for more than a season or two is 100% his fault.

 

[Pharaoh]

It could be his fault, but I'm not ready to dethrone him, even though our mercatos have been lackluster I still don't think its time for a new owner.


I mean I'm complaining about this deal, but we've made plenty of signings we've wanted already. Campagnaro, icardi, & belfodi (even though we overpaid for him) is a really good start to the Mercato, but our glaring problems in midfield makes me want this deal that much more.

 

[Kakaroto]

The deal is to refinace Moratti who needs money. Nothing to do with Inter.

 

[Inter7]

some people here are so easily manipulated :megusta:

Haha its just more likely he would go to rome so when the all the papers are saying that its very possible. hoping he will come here though

 

[pencilpal]

Guarin: 4 goals in 114 shots. 77% pass rate from 38 passes per game, 1.3 Key passes per game. 2.9 dribbles per game, 2.2 dispossessions per game. 1 interception per game and 1.1 turnovers per game. 1.9 tackles per game, 1.8 fouls committed per game. 1.7 times dribbled on per game.

Marchisio: 6 goals in 61 shots. 84% pass rate from 43 passes per game, 1.2 Key passes per game, 0.8 dribbles per game, 1 dispossession per game, 1.5 interceptions per game, 0.9 turnovers per game. 2.5 tackles per game. 1.5 fouls committed per game. 1.1 times dribbled on per game.

I'm not a big fan of Guarin, but that's a complete joke to compare a player like Guarin with a player like Marchisio. Completely different roles in the team tbh.

Guarin was pushed in the AM role by Stramaccioni, and he clearly didn't excel there.

You just can't compare these two players.

 

[Wallace]

Who can we compare Guarin to? Boateng?

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[pencilpal]

Pajo, how can you possibly compare Nainggolan with Vidal? Positionally they are similar in the 3-5-2, but their respective roles are completely different.

Vidal is a counterattacking threat, but also a defensive presence. The only way this can happen (to be a presence in both the defence and attack) is with loads upon loads of work ethic, and if you look at his heat maps in important matches, you see that he's all over the left side of the pitch, from one penalty box to another.

Note that Pirlo is behind him in Juventus' formation, but rarely does (Pirlo) have to defend. Rather, Vidal gets back behind him to provide cover for an attack.

And he's traditionally a DM.

Nainggolan on the other hand is much more similar to someone like Guarin, a box to box midfielder who is very used to being played in the attacking part of the pitch. His position on the pitch is similar to Vidal, but not his role. He does not break up play in the midfield for Cagliari, as Vidal does for Juventus. That is the job of Daniele Conti. Rather, he gets the ball from Conti or the defence and has surging runs in the attacking area of the pitch.

In fact, he was a striker in his early years, before his coach at Piacenza saw his clear skillset to be a box-to-box midfielder. But he's used much more as an attacking midfielder for Cagliari.

 

[wera]

 

[minterke]

Lol this guy must be amazingly good then, if he honestly makes you think that adding him to our midfield will enable us to compete for the Scudetto...


BTW, Happy Canada Day boys!

Nainggolan solves our midfield problems. Last year we always had at least one useless player in the midfield (Gargano or Kuzmanovic). Radja is a HUGE improvement on that. Up front we're looking good if Palacio stays healthy. The only thing I'm worried about is our defence but I've got faith in Mazzarri when it comes to that.

 

[Caecuban]

Nainggolan solves our midfield problems. Last year we always had at least one useless player in the midfield (Gargano or Kuzmanovic). Radja is a HUGE improvement on that. Up front we're looking good if Palacio stays healthy. The only thing I'm worried about is our defence but I've got faith in Mazzarri when it comes to that.

Defense is quite ok if Dragovic comes. We really need WBs and MFs like Nainggolan.

 

[Pajo]

Pajo, how can you possibly compare Nainggolan with Vidal? Positionally they are similar in the 3-5-2, but their respective roles are completely different.

Vidal is a counterattacking threat, but also a defensive presence. The only way this can happen (to be a presence in both the defence and attack) is with loads upon loads of work ethic, and if you look at his heat maps in important matches, you see that he's all over the left side of the pitch, from one penalty box to another.

Note that Pirlo is behind him in Juventus' formation, but rarely does (Pirlo) have to defend. Rather, Vidal gets back behind him to provide cover for an attack.

And he's traditionally a DM.

Nainggolan on the other hand is much more similar to someone like Guarin, a box to box midfielder who is very used to being played in the attacking part of the pitch. His position on the pitch is similar to Vidal, but not his role. He does not break up play in the midfield for Cagliari, as Vidal does for Juventus. That is the job of Daniele Conti. Rather, he gets the ball from Conti or the defence and has surging runs in the attacking area of the pitch.

In fact, he was a striker in his early years, before his coach at Piacenza saw his clear skillset to be a box-to-box midfielder. But he's used much more as an attacking midfielder for Cagliari.

It depends on the game. I've seen Radja be the main destroyer for them. Didn't you know he is one of the best tacklers in the league with most successful tackles? Especially against stronger teams. He also wants to bomb forward as Vidal does, but has HUGE radius of movement and always tracks back. Sure, his role is little different to Vidal because as you said, he already has destroyer behind him, in the name of Conti. And when Conti didn't play, Radja was the one that was taking that role as a DM.

If you put Nainggolan in Juves midfield, with that setup, he'd be the same player Vidal is, only less quality. Vidal is not primary DM as well (he is a sole DM as much as Radja is), but box to box with decent technique and great finish.

As I said, totally same player, both are great tacklers and defenders, both love to bomb forward and hold onto the ball, and both have huge workrate. They only work in different setups, Vidal with destroyer behind would do the same job, and Radja with player like Pirlo next to him, will once again, do the same job. They even look alike in their movement

 

[Rimpel]

fuck dont let this guy go! Him, Kova, Guarin and chuchu would cause havoc ffs.

 

[Inter7]

This is going to be tough but I hope we do everything in our power to get him! call Bozzo :trolldad:

 

[pencilpal]

It depends on the game. I've seen Radja be the main destroyer for them. Didn't you know he is one of the best tacklers in the league with most successful tackles? Especially against stronger teams. He also wants to bomb forward as Vidal does, but has HUGE radius of movement and always tracks back. Sure, his role is little different to Vidal because as you said, he already has destroyer behind him, in the name of Conti. And when Conti didn't play, Radja was the one that was taking that role as a DM.

If you put Nainggolan in Juves midfield, with that setup, he'd be the same player Vidal is, only less quality. Vidal is not primary DM as well (he is a sole DM as much as Radja is), but box to box with decent technique and great finish.

As I said, totally same player, both are great tacklers and defenders, both love to bomb forward and hold onto the ball, and both have huge workrate. They only work in different setups, Vidal with destroyer behind would do the same job, and Radja with player like Pirlo next to him, will once again, do the same job. They even look alike in their movement

But is this club Juventus and do we have their setup?

With the players we have now atm, is Nainggolan a necessity considering we're keeping Guarin?

As you said, Nainggolan took Conti's role because there was simply no one else to fulfill his place in Cagliari. We don't need a player that can play in DM, but rather a pure DM that can play up front if needed.

Imho it's simply ridiculous to model Inter's team next year after Juventus. Statistics don't show everything, especially how many tackles he made. He's purely a box to box midfielder, and I disagree about your evaluation of Vidal's natural role.

His primary attributes are offensive. But when he has to defend, he mainly ‘holds’ his position in front of the defense and opportunistically makes key interceptions to cut out opposition threats.

We don't need this kind of player. When we sell Guarin, then we can start talking, but rather, atm we need a pure, hard-tackling destroyer like M'vila, Vidal, or Capoué.