replicating Helenio Herrera's catenaccio on Football Manager

[GavinC85]

I'm trying to replicate herrera's catenaccio system with the current Inter Milan side on football manager (so far it's going very well with 0 goals conceded in pre season) but I haven't started the serie a season yet, I've been reading about the system in the book inverting the pyramid and watching youtube videos.

how close am I to getting it right?

 

[ADRossi]

You'll have to ask Brehme, who was a 40 year old divorcee at the time of our domination in the 60s.

 

[brehme1989]

You didn't have to invoke me, the "Inter Milan" alert sparked my veins and I rushed as fast as I could.

But maybe season ticket holder from those days 14E can be of better assistance, the technology on glass making couldn't help my eyesight at the time.


Ha, but honestly, if you want a replication there it's going to be hard as the whole counter attack system is flawed with football manager and "catenaccio" they have there definitely isn't the catenaccio that Inter played.

It's not a bad attempt honestly but the striker wasn't really an advanced forward, more of a false nine in modern terms. Depending on which season you're going by (if it were Peiro or not). The central midfielder was more of an free roaming playmaker and you'll have to put Vidal as a Half Back. Both center backs should have the same role really.

You'll have to put Eriksen as a shadow striker whatever it's called there. You also have to slot Sanchez next to him as a playmaker if that's your Mario Corso. And Hakimi needs to be a click further up, but that role was a bit complicated. He could be either a wide midfielder (think Atletico's style in the 4-4-2) or a wing forward or a defensive winger. Jair for example did all those things. When it was Domenghini, he was just running about, so he'd be okay as a defensive winger at the spot you have him on.

Most positions were rather fluid. Facchetti for example had full autonomy to roam wherever he pleased. Perisic cannot do that and neither can the game define such a role perfectly, but if there's an inverse complete winger, it'd probably be a better fit.

That team was actually very offensive minded, but so was most of football back then. Herrera just decided to sit back a lot more than others and exploit the empty space.

You're probably going to lose a lot of games paying this way

 

[GavinC85]

You didn't have to invoke me, the "Inter Milan" alert sparked my veins and I rushed as fast as I could.

But maybe season ticket holder from those days 14E can be of better assistance, the technology on glass making couldn't help my eyesight at the time.


Ha, but honestly, if you want a replication there it's going to be hard as the whole counter attack system is flawed with football manager and "catenaccio" they have there definitely isn't the catenaccio that Inter played.

It's not a bad attempt honestly but the striker wasn't really an advanced forward, more of a false nine in modern terms. Depending on which season you're going by (if it were Peiro or not). The central midfielder was more of an free roaming playmaker and you'll have to put Vidal as a Half Back. Both center backs should have the same role really.

You'll have to put Eriksen as a shadow striker whatever it's called there. You also have to slot Sanchez next to him as a playmaker if that's your Mario Corso. And Hakimi needs to be a click further up, but that role was a bit complicated. He could be either a wide midfielder (think Atletico's style in the 4-4-2) or a wing forward or a defensive winger. Jair for example did all those things. When it was Domenghini, he was just running about, so he'd be okay as a defensive winger at the spot you have him on.

Most positions were rather fluid. Facchetti for example had full autonomy to roam wherever he pleased. Perisic cannot do that and neither can the game define such a role perfectly, but if there's an inverse complete winger, it'd probably be a better fit.

That team was actually very offensive minded, but so was most of football back then. Herrera just decided to sit back a lot more than others and exploit the empty space.

You're probably going to lose a lot of games paying this way

thank you

I'm intrigued with what you say in regards to some of the roles, the article below is one ive been referring to.

https://www.holdingmidfield.com/catenaccio-revisited-herreras-inter/

I've been really struggling to find much information about Piero can you show me anything that backs up him playing as a false nine? (sorry i know im taking this very seriously ) I agree with changing the trequartista to a shadow striker. I was torn between putting the suarez role as a DLP or RPM and only went with the DLP role as most articles were referring to him as a DLP.

Wiki refers to Guarneri as a stopper? putting Vidal has a half back would mean he drops even further back and most places say that Bedin was a ball winner? the halfback doesnt really go chasing the ball.

I'm also interested that you say Corso is a playmaker as most places are saying he's a winger? (but did cut inside) so maybe an inverted winger? they have him on the left on picture diagrams.

I also agree with Facchetti and can't find the perfect role for him, (considering he scored many goals also)

 

[Sawyer]

Come on Brehme mate, we're waiting for a response! This is a very interesting thread.